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DTSD Webinars: Starting the policy committee meeting. We'll start with a roll call. We'll just go around. State your name and your position.

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DTSD Webinars: Jason Reichner, representing the Administration.

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DTSD Webinars: Michelle, Hg. Board, secretary.

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DTSD Webinars: Matt Bixler, public Member

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DTSD Webinars: Stuart Mccarver School Board, member Lindsey Drew, a School Board member. I want to call myself a citizen.

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DTSD Webinars: Stacey Winslow, superintendent.

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DTSD Webinars: how you doing?

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DTSD Webinars: It's hard to see. You can put your hand over and kind of see if it's

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DTSD Webinars: Lindsay Calvinetti, Citizen Advisor

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DTSD Webinars: Tracy Royo School Board member. I'm Josh Chisick, School board member, do we have anybody online?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, then. So 1st order, the

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DTSD Webinars: summary minutes from our last meeting. My understanding is we don't approve these. Right? We just oh, we do approve them. Okay, so can I get a motion to approve the summary minutes from last meeting. So most do you have a cover? Second, Lindsey Drew.

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DTSD Webinars: Is there any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor? Aye.

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DTSD Webinars: okay. So now we'll go on to. So an unfinished business is the 600 series of the finance policies. And I believe we are tabling them again because we're gonna give the

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DTSD Webinars: finance office a chance to get up to speed before hitting them with a stack of policies to review.

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DTSD Webinars: Oh.

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DTSD Webinars: Dr. Cizek. This is Lindsey Drew. If I could, just before we move. Oh, sure! Welcome our new citizen to the Policy Committee, and thank you for

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DTSD Webinars: being willing to lend your time and

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DTSD Webinars: knowledge and thoughts to the policies. This is a important committee of the Board.

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DTSD Webinars: Yes, thank you. Thank you for that, Lindsay.

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DTSD Webinars: alright. So we're tape. We're tabling the

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DTSD Webinars: 600 series. We don't need to vote or anything. Right? We're just gonna state that. That's what we're doing.

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DTSD Webinars: And we'll we'll get back to that as soon as we well, when they when they're up to speed.

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DTSD Webinars: So now, I guess.

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DTSD Webinars: Do you want to head up these policies that have been reviewed and updated.

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DTSD Webinars: Sure. A lot of the policies that you'll see are just a carryover from our last policy meeting, where they just updated some of the language remove, like local law and local police department and added law enforcement agency in jurisdiction. As I was going through the policies. I thought it was weird that we updated all the tobacco and alcohol or the tobacco policies, but

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DTSD Webinars: with language removing the words jewel. But we didn't actually update the tobacco policy. Well.

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DTSD Webinars: about 4 days after our policy meeting in May, they actually did release updates to our actual tobacco policy. So you'll see that it was on today so that it just mirrors what we've been doing with our other policies. And then at the very end, they do have a couple new policies, 202, 254 and 607 for various reasons. And they're all listed in the notes. Section. The one policy, 805.2 that we'll see tonight is actually on the board agenda to be approved tonight.

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DTSD Webinars: But since their last update. They've actually added some more language that they would like revise. So normally, you'll see green for additions and and red highlights for removal. That policy, you'll see Orange, because that's the language that they're recommending be added before we actually had a chance to approve our own revisions.

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DTSD Webinars: So how will that work for the board meeting. Will we have to approve it twice? So we'll approve it tonight with the recommended changes that we made

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DTSD Webinars: in September, and then once that language is approved tonight. Then I'll simply add the orange language in. If we choose to do that for 30 day review.

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DTSD Webinars: and then we'll and then we'll approve it again, approve it again, is there? Okay? Yeah.

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DTSD Webinars: Gotcha.

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DTSD Webinars: So the 1st one is just policy 1, 13.

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DTSD Webinars: If we look at that particular policy, just some minor language changes.

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DTSD Webinars: removing the Safe Schools Act, which is no longer in a force, and like like, I said, adding the green language, local law enforce law enforcement agency instead of local police department.

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DTSD Webinars: So I guess we'll go.

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DTSD Webinars: We'll go through and approve each one independently, or do we do them as a bunch after we that are in a group. Or I think it's probably easier just to do them one by one. In case, people have questions.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so can I get a motion to approve the changes for policy 113.1. So move Stuart Mccart.

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DTSD Webinars: second, Tracy Royal.

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DTSD Webinars: is there any discussion.

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DTSD Webinars: hey? All those in obsessed. I just have a

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DTSD Webinars: something just

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DTSD Webinars: stuck out to me when I was reading this. It's nothing of the new but why does it specify so under administrative removal

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DTSD Webinars: to interim alternative educational setting for certain infractions and number one at the end?

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DTSD Webinars: It says, except that term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 and one half inches in length, and I'm just wondering why that's not included in the

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DTSD Webinars: so I was just saying, is that a if it's a pocket knife, didn't we have a policy where we took that out

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DTSD Webinars: last time or no? Am I? No, our, our weapons policy doesn't. So this is extremely specific. When it

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DTSD Webinars: comes to our weapons policy, our weapons policy doesn't match this. Okay,

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DTSD Webinars: you know. So there is discrepancy. This is just an outside placement for students with, I believe this is our students with disabilities. Yeah.

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DTSD Webinars: because our weapons. Policy doesn't

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DTSD Webinars: isolate. Take out pocket knives with small right? That's why I'm wondering why it's it's in here versus just leaving it out.

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DTSD Webinars: There's a reason you have to keep that

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DTSD Webinars: I'd have, I'd have to look into it. I would imagine it has something to do with school code. But and the, you know, if you look at the the numbers beside that. But I I would have to actually go back and take a look. I I don't want to just guess and and be wrong. Thank you.

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DTSD Webinars: I think it looks like it also gives some

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DTSD Webinars: thought or accommodation to like

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DTSD Webinars: the type of weapon and what it, you know, could be used for, because it starts out by being

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DTSD Webinars: without regard to whether the behavior is determined to be a manifestation of the disability. So I think it's just kind of separating some of that out. When you look into the the deeper piece of it, then

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DTSD Webinars: if you get into the definition of

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DTSD Webinars: dangerous weapon

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DTSD Webinars: in terms of a federal facility that so this is coming from some different places. But when you look at the term dangerous weapon means a weapon, device, instrument, material or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 and a half inches in length.

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DTSD Webinars: so it's the definition of dangerous weapon. Specifically.

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DTSD Webinars: yeah, surprising? Because I feel that that could be a dangerous weapon

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DTSD Webinars: only if you push harden them

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DTSD Webinars: well, yeah, because we don't, yeah, we? Because we don't have it in our weapon policy. So we're just following the Federal. Yeah, it's it's code 9, 30. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in federal facilities

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DTSD Webinars: is where that definition comes from.

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DTSD Webinars: So it's a Us code.

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DTSD Webinars: And I'm sure that it is following because it's specifically with students, with a disability which falls under federal regulations. That's why they're using that federal definition

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DTSD Webinars: that makes sense. Yes, right?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, any further discussion.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor? Aye, aye.

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DTSD Webinars: they opposed.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so, Carrie. So now we're on the policy 1 13.2 on behavioral support.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, same as the last policy. This policy is getting a title change instead of behavior supports. It's just behavior support. And then it just follows the last policy with the inclusions and removal of

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DTSD Webinars: law enforcement agency and local police department.

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DTSD Webinars: So your local police department becomes just law enforcement agency throughout correct.

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DTSD Webinars: And can I get a motion to approve the changes to policy 1 13.2 on behavioral support.

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DTSD Webinars: So moves Stuart Mccart.

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DTSD Webinars: Second, Tracy Royo.

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DTSD Webinars: do we have any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Everybody still reading?

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DTSD Webinars: All right, all those all those in favor.

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DTSD Webinars: Aye, aye, any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, motion passes.

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DTSD Webinars: Now, under policy. 2, 22 on tobacco and vaping products. I believe we what we took out jewel out of this.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, the major change, if you remember last time, was taking out specifically the words Juul, and that mirrors what happened with this policy as well. So it's normally vaping product, including jewel or other e-cigarette. And then also the words law enforcement agency.

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DTSD Webinars: instead of local police department. And in this case they actually also removed school resource officer

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DTSD Webinars: to the local police department.

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DTSD Webinars: So that's because they eliminated that position, right

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DTSD Webinars: or not. Not. The position is because it goes through law enforcement agency.

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DTSD Webinars: And then you you sort of put you put vaping products up with the definition of tobacco. And so then the rest of the time you could just say tobacco and not say

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DTSD Webinars: correct and vaping products. So

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DTSD Webinars: yeah, seems I get a motion to

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DTSD Webinars: approve the changes to policy. 222 on tobacco and vaping products. Lindsey drew second. Tracy Royal.

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DTSD Webinars: Any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor, aye, may opposed.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so policy 222 moves on now onto policy 227 for controlled substances and paraphernalia. Yeah, same as before. The major changes are just removing local police department and adding a law enforcement agency. So adding the Pennsylvania Department of Ed instead office safe schools.

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DTSD Webinars: The purpose did change a little bit, actually more than a little bit. So that new language that's being recommended by the Psba was added. Yeah. So so now

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DTSD Webinars: you add in, except as permitted so for control substance. So it makes it.

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DTSD Webinars: There are cases where they'd be allowed to have a controlled suspense if it's permitted by

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DTSD Webinars: board policy or state involvement correct.

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DTSD Webinars: and before there would have been no avenue for that.

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DTSD Webinars: So then, when you say the prohibited, that's because it's only

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DTSD Webinars: if you're not, if it's not allowed. So they had to put the prohibited possession everywhere.

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DTSD Webinars: I see. Okay, can I get a motion to approve policy? 227 on controlled substances and paraphernalia. So move Stuart. Carl.

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DTSD Webinars: Second, Tracy. Broyo.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay. All those in favor. Aye.

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DTSD Webinars: any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so policy. 227 moves on to the Board Review. So now on to policy 236.1 on threat assessment. Yeah, this just repeats the pattern that we've seen with the addition of each law enforcement agency having jurisdiction over school property removal of

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DTSD Webinars: local police department elimination of the safe schools, wording instead of school safety, and replaced by school safety and security. So just mirrors.

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DTSD Webinars: pretty much the language that we've seen in the last

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DTSD Webinars: 3 or 4 policies

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DTSD Webinars: cause we put in there. We don't have to define tobacco here again, saying it's vaping, too, right

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DTSD Webinars: so, or does it reference that

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DTSD Webinars: or just because it says tobacco products that that would also include

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DTSD Webinars: vaping right.

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DTSD Webinars: correct?

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DTSD Webinars: Alright, so can I get a motion to approve the changes to policy 236.1 on threat assessment.

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DTSD Webinars: So move Stuart Mccarthy.

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DTSD Webinars: Second, let's see. True. Any discussion.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor. Aye.

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DTSD Webinars: any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so posse 2, 36.1 moves on to board.

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DTSD Webinars: and vaping products. Yeah. So the the 1st policy, the the 200 series that was for students so 3, 23, this is for staff, but it mirrors the same changes as our student tobacco and vaping products policy.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so can I get a motion to approve the changes to policy 3, 23 on tobacco and vaping products.

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DTSD Webinars: So move Stuart Mccarthy. Second, Tracy Royal.

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DTSD Webinars: any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay. All those in favor. Aye, any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay. So, policy 3, 23 moves on to the board. So now, policy 3, 51 on controlled substance. Abuse.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah. Once again, it mirrors a lot of the same language we had in our student policy for controlled substance. You'll notice this one says, abuse

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DTSD Webinars: as well, and you know.

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DTSD Webinars: and this is also just terminology changes correct.

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DTSD Webinars: you know.

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DTSD Webinars: So can I get a motion to approve the changes to policy. 3, 51 on controlled substance abuse.

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DTSD Webinars: So move Tracy Royo.

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DTSD Webinars: Second, sturdy car. Any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor. Aye, any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so policy 3, 51 moves on to the board. So now, policy 707 use of school facilities.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah. So this policy, all that it does is remove the language, including the product market, is as Juul.

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DTSD Webinars: just to mirror other tobacco policies.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, it's all at once. Okay, so can I get a motion to approve

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DTSD Webinars: policy? 707 use of school facilities?

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DTSD Webinars: So move. Stuart will cover second Tracy Royo. Any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Is there any reference to these in the ars or the schedules that are on? There? Will those automatically be Updated with the policy updates. I'll take a look, Lindsey. And if they need to be updated, I'll update it.

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DTSD Webinars: Aye, any opposed.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so policy 7 0, 7 moves on to the board. So policy 8 0, 5.2. School security personnel.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, this is the the policy that was mentioning at the beginning where we have a revision that's scheduled to be approved tonight. And since that time they came out with some additional language that they're recommending. So I highlighted that the new language in orange. But then, also, just to show you what was changed.

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DTSD Webinars: At our last policy meeting, I left that in green and and red as well.

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DTSD Webinars: This is Lindsay Drew. It's my recall when the

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DTSD Webinars: when the school resource officer, School Security personnel came out following the

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DTSD Webinars: Parkland School shooting in 2018. There was a lot of conversation around this because there were grants available for Sros and school security personnel.

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DTSD Webinars: I'm recalling that the Board at the time decided to not adopt some of the language that was in here. That's being reintroduced at this point in time, because it provides rather loose

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DTSD Webinars: provisions for the various school security personnel that it could be independent contractors or

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DTSD Webinars: someone who has just completed the training.

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DTSD Webinars: We also went a step further in.

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DTSD Webinars: I believe another policy, not this one, because the law provides for school security personnel to be

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DTSD Webinars: armed with a firearm if the school policy allows that, and we did not adopt that to to make it only law enforcement.

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DTSD Webinars: So

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DTSD Webinars: my recommendation would be that we keep

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DTSD Webinars: our language with our school resource officer being a member of Law enforcement

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DTSD Webinars: agency, not independent contractor school or just anyone who has completed the training. Yeah. So I can speak on that a little bit. So what I did add was the the definitions that were in there before. Okay, so the only place that you'll see the language that

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DTSD Webinars: the Board a few years ago decided not to include would be the definitions there are, if we look at the policy that the Psba has, though there are separate sections, then that would indicate school security personnel, independent contractor and 3rd party vendor.

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DTSD Webinars: Right? That you'll you're not going to see that language. In this policy the only other place is down below, but that language is

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DTSD Webinars: is being recommended to be included, because I think that's part of the new, the new bill that was passed so regardless. You have to have that my understanding is you need to have that language. So if we want to remove some of the definitions

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DTSD Webinars: in terms we we can. But Lindsay, I remember what you're talking about, and remember those meetings, those particular sections still are not added in the policy. So in the part where Number 2, we're talking about

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DTSD Webinars: sign us up for that, right? It's just. It's just providing those positions, right? Because we're not at.

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DTSD Webinars: in my opinion. Anyways, we're not adding those particular sections to the policy. Okay. But if it's really just, including it for the purpose of the definitions, and to be compliant with the law and the way the law spells it out. I'm fine.

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DTSD Webinars: I just wanna make sure on record my position as a board member is that only law enforcement

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DTSD Webinars: members are our school security personnel. They are the only people who are authorized to be carrying a weapon on school grounds.

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DTSD Webinars: and I don't want any room

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DTSD Webinars: for it to be interpreted otherwise, unless another board wanted to go ahead and make that change when I'm not a vote.

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DTSD Webinars: because I don't want like run a cop. No, this is Tracy, I agree. And I was not part of those discussions. However, I also would not want to open the door to that for it to be interpreted differently. So

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DTSD Webinars: sure this doesn't do that right and and just for background and context, like, I understand why the law has the provisions that they need to, because in rural districts there are not local municipality law enforcement agencies that have established relationships. The way that we do. You know, they're controlled by

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DTSD Webinars: sheriff departments, county State troopers, that type of thing. So they have different needs than we do

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DTSD Webinars: wonderful and more than sufficient for providing the security that we need. So one of the things that we might consider doing is, they definitely added, the definition for school day. So school day is is new. That wasn't there before. I think we do need to keep school security personnel because it definitely spells out school resource officers.

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DTSD Webinars: But then, if the Board or this group wanted to, I don't think there's anything that would hurt or harm us if we removed independent contractor. 3rd party vendor. Yeah, because we don't reference it anywhere else anywhere else. So having to define a term we don't use doesn't really make sense, anyway. And to me, that just leaves it open for interpretation. Yeah. And at this time we do not anticipate needing either of those.

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DTSD Webinars: So maybe, if you know at some other time that change, they could revisit the policy. But since we know that we are good with school security personnel, then that should be sufficient.

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DTSD Webinars: Right? I mean, I get way up on my soapbox on this. But it's not even about needing. It's about like that. That is a

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DTSD Webinars: core value principle philosophy that we're taking, that it is not going to be something that's a good point. So we could.

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DTSD Webinars: So leaving in school security personnel and leaving in school day definition, but taking out independent contractor and 3rd party.

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DTSD Webinars: okay. So I guess we just

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DTSD Webinars: We'll wait to approve this until those changes. If you want to approve it, we can approve it with those changes.

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DTSD Webinars: with the changes. So I'll make a motion to amend the proposed revisions to exclude the definition of independent contractor and 3rd party vendor.

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DTSD Webinars: All right. So then, would you need a second on that second, on that second on that amendment, and then we vote on that, and then we vote as amended, yeah.

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DTSD Webinars: Alrighty. All right.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay. So now, can I get a motion to approve?

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DTSD Webinars: 8 0. 5.2 school security personnel, with the amended language

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DTSD Webinars: that we just approved. So Mr. Mccarrow, second Lindsey, drew

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DTSD Webinars: any further discussion.

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DTSD Webinars: No, thank you for listening to my rant, all those in favor. Aye, any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, no, no, I think it's good double down on a lot. But this one of them.

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DTSD Webinars: I think we all agree. So I think that's good. Tell us how you really feel. He's worried about pocket knife.

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DTSD Webinars: A move on to policy. 2. 0, 2 eligibility of non-resident students.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, this policy was amended, as you can see in the Notes section for provisions of disenrolling a student when the child does no longer resides in the district.

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DTSD Webinars: And it's not not otherwise entitled to free school privileges. There's now certain stipulations on when they're allowed to be disenrolled.

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DTSD Webinars: so it moves the part

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DTSD Webinars: about having to swear the oath to make sure that it's that the military students aren't.

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DTSD Webinars: that it doesn't fall under all the students correct only for non non. Other non resident students. Right?

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DTSD Webinars: That's not exempt by these former residents, prospective residents, children of active duty, military.

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DTSD Webinars: But other than that the

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DTSD Webinars: substance doesn't change it just

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DTSD Webinars: limit limits where they have to do the sworn statements. Correct

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DTSD Webinars: the language that's being removed.

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DTSD Webinars: Well, it's not. It's being moved. It's it's yeah.

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DTSD Webinars: Oh, so it's verbatim

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DTSD Webinars: pretty. It looks. It looks pretty random, right?

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DTSD Webinars: just out of curiosity. Dr. Windsor, do you know.

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DTSD Webinars: like I understand the general

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DTSD Webinars: out of district tuition. We don't want like that's not something that is a good practice. For non

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DTSD Webinars: for someone that's paying taxes somewhere else to be, are, you know, sending their kids here, or whatever? We're not a private school.

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DTSD Webinars: but just out of curiosity, like from the moving part, like, what if it's in the best interest of the child? So if they're like, I know that there are Mckinney veto provisions for students who become homeless or experience homelessness there, that they may

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DTSD Webinars: stay in the district. But what if it's care of. You know that the primary custody moves to a grandparent because of something with the parents, but it would be in the best interest for the child to not have disruption by being able to stay here.

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DTSD Webinars: but because the grandparent lives outside of the district they're not able to.

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DTSD Webinars: Yes.

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DTSD Webinars: that's it. It is one of those situations sometimes that can be heartbreaking. But we do have to follow.

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DTSD Webinars: We have to follow the regulations. So that's a regulation, not a pot like that is not something that's at the discretion of the district like. There's no way to allow authority for

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DTSD Webinars: special cases to be reviewed, you know, under your

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DTSD Webinars: no already. No, not without opening the door to, just because, yeah, they would then qualify as a tuition student. Yeah. And

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DTSD Webinars: at this point in time we we don't have any tuition students, right? I just. I know times that's happened, and it's heartbreaking because it was not what was right for the child, but it was what they had to do because of circumstances beyond their control. Yeah, yeah, it's really hard when that happens. And I

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DTSD Webinars: I can't deny that it's very hard.

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DTSD Webinars: exempt

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DTSD Webinars: non-resident students.

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DTSD Webinars: can I get a motion to approve the changes to policy 202 on the eligibility of non-resident students.

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DTSD Webinars: So move Stuart Mccart, second, Tracy Royo.

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DTSD Webinars: And do we have any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor. Aye, any opposed?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay. So policy 202 will move on to the full board. So now, policy 254 educational opportunity for military children. Yeah, it just kind of follows our our last policy, with the addition of members of the National Guard.

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DTSD Webinars: Gotcha. So so na, National Guard wasn't included in military families before. Is that

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DTSD Webinars: that I I don't. I'd have to look closer at. I don't know. Off the top of my

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DTSD Webinars: No, no, so it was a national. Is that a uniform service or no?

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DTSD Webinars: yes.

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DTSD Webinars: there are some instances where you can be on the active.

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DTSD Webinars: active National Guard

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DTSD Webinars: and and

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DTSD Webinars: move, but

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DTSD Webinars: the most part National Guard people

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DTSD Webinars: work where they live.

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DTSD Webinars: very narrow. Yeah. I just wonder because it's already covered under active duty members of the uniforms. They're not active duty, though. Oh, they're not. Oh, they're active National Guard. Okay. So like, they're they are different. They're active. But they're active under a different right

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DTSD Webinars: code title, something.

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DTSD Webinars: So they are, they are different.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, Gotcha, okay?

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DTSD Webinars: And this was a new policy this year. So this is just expanding

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DTSD Webinars: the definition

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DTSD Webinars: of who's included.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, because there has been cases of National Guard being mobilized across and moved.

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DTSD Webinars: I mean, through sets somewhat that's not

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DTSD Webinars: the same, because then the family usually doesn't leave

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DTSD Webinars: and the unit doesn't leave. They're just activated to go someplace to do a mission, and they come back.

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DTSD Webinars: It feels like there must have been some very specific circumstance that prompted this, because it's

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DTSD Webinars: I can't think of an example of National Guard

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DTSD Webinars: in this instance, be we're required to move required to move and move their family to go to school.

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DTSD Webinars: right especially state to state.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, then, can I get a motion to approve the changes to policy? 254, and the educational opportunity for military children.

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DTSD Webinars: So move Stuart Mccarr. Second Tracy. Royo.

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DTSD Webinars: Any discussion?

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor. Aye, opposed.

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DTSD Webinars: Okay, so policy 2, 54 moves on

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DTSD Webinars: the board. Now, policy. 6, 0, 7 on tuition students.

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, so this policy is not very long. But if you look, we pretty much changed the entire policy. So

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DTSD Webinars: so we basically this, even though we don't have tuition students. This just allows us

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DTSD Webinars: right allows us to have tuition students.

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DTSD Webinars: It. It sets the rate. Yes, sets the rate.

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DTSD Webinars: Now, what prompted these changes in the

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DTSD Webinars: payment guidelines?

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DTSD Webinars: Yeah, no idea.

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DTSD Webinars: I can speculate, but it would be pure speculation.

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DTSD Webinars: I'm just curious like the Board, does not have authority to approve students to attend the district who are residents of another school district. So why would the language say, who have been approved by the board.

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DTSD Webinars: That's gonna point to.

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DTSD Webinars: you know. Are we required to have this policy?

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DTSD Webinars: What is the process for having a tuition student

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DTSD Webinars: who approves it.

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DTSD Webinars: The closest that we have to a tuition student at this point in time would be our consortium students in the special education program.

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DTSD Webinars: And that's part of like consortium billing.

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DTSD Webinars: And and that is all worked out through 3rd party, because it's not. That would be like Laura. Life right? No, no, it could be consortium students.

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DTSD Webinars: each each set of districts within the Iu

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DTSD Webinars: share resources in classrooms

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DTSD Webinars: in order to like. So we might have

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DTSD Webinars: you know.

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DTSD Webinars: I'm thinking about our classroom in the high school, which is a multiple disabilities classroom. So as a district, we might have one or 2 students of our own. But then, but that classroom has

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DTSD Webinars: think right now. 8 to 10 students, and the rest of them are coming from Middletown or Lower Dolphin. So we have a consortium so that wouldn't fall into this?

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DTSD Webinars: No, so what do they pay? Or is that part of they do in the consortium? Whoever's taking the students pays, but the other district. But the other districts pay. It's not a family, or we pay them if if our kids are going there. So what stops tuition students from coming from a student that wanted to come here and pay tuition? We don't allow them. But I mean, like, who is it a policy? Yeah, it is a policy. So there's a board policy that say that says that you may

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DTSD Webinars: if you want to enroll tuition students. So that's what we just yeah, yeah.

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DTSD Webinars: But but the past practice has been that you do not. So then saying, that has to be approved by the board, if we wanted to have a tuition student, would the Board approve it? Or no? If you, I would absolutely bring it to the board if we were going to recommend a tuition student. Yeah. So there is a policy that says we could have that option, you may. Yes. So then this would be. This would be following that correct?

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DTSD Webinars: this, just says, if we do ever allow someone that they can be building, or how they're how they are built. Correct.

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DTSD Webinars: Then we have a policy that says we don't allow them. Well, it doesn't. It doesn't say that we don't allow them. No, it says that we may, that you may.

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DTSD Webinars: Just. The practice has been that you have not.

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DTSD Webinars: But the law states that non-resident students cannot be considered.

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DTSD Webinars: Isn't that what you said about the eligibility of non-resident? That's just enrolling non-resident students like just for enrollment in public school?

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DTSD Webinars: Right? So if they live in Lebanon. They can't enroll here. Correct. But in fact oh, so a tuition student, correct. So a tuition student wouldn't be a non-resident student because it's not a tuition student is a non-resident student.

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DTSD Webinars: But so you you open up Pandora box. So if you, if you go back to the the previous conversation, when you enroll somebody like you. You pick up all the costs associated with

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DTSD Webinars: providing an education to that child. So we've looked in this and it. And it usually happens with employees

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DTSD Webinars: wondering if their child could come here as a as a tuition student or reduced tuition and past practice has been no, because we pick up all the fees associated with that child. So you know. You know, everyone has different needs.

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DTSD Webinars: right? So you can't say yes to some tuition students and no to other tuition students without putting the district.

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DTSD Webinars: you know, and

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DTSD Webinars: in an uncomfortable situation everybody say yes to this person. But no, this person. Yeah. You just say no, and that's what

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DTSD Webinars: that's what correct.

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DTSD Webinars: Gotcha.

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DTSD Webinars: So you could say yes to a tuition student in second grade and 4th grade. That student needs an Iep.

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DTSD Webinars: and then they need some other major service. So then do you increase tuition to cover that service, or do? Are you stuck providing it? Or do you say we don't accept students who need extra? Exactly. So that last policy says the Board made not a great spot to be in right. And so that's why this policy is important, because it sets those tuition rates. So

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DTSD Webinars: okay, that makes sense

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DTSD Webinars: alright. So can I get a motion to approve policy. 6 0 7 on tuition students

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DTSD Webinars: so moves to recover.

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DTSD Webinars: Second, Tracy Royo, is there any discussion? So for me, if we have one that says we may allow them. Then I think that this makes sense. If we get rid of that one, then I think we get rid of this one, too. That's kind of how I feel. Well, the other one, I mean the one on eligibility of non-resident students. Say the Board may permit. Right? So

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DTSD Webinars: so I see why we have this. Yeah, in addition to that. But

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DTSD Webinars: it's covering bases. Yeah.

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DTSD Webinars: Well, cause there could be a case like you're saying, I mean, for a continuation of

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DTSD Webinars: education for a student who moves out to his grandparents, and then they would have the option.

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DTSD Webinars: But we can't, but we don't accept those. So the tuition wouldn't apply, regardless because they're ineligible to stay enrolled as nonresident students.

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DTSD Webinars: But I thought we, this is something. If there were a special circumstance

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DTSD Webinars: that would come before. But in general we don't apply that, and I do kind of understand that, because it's no different than clubs or facility use, or any of those things like the whole limited public forum, you know, we would allow them to be a tuition student, right? If they moved out. No, no, and that's what we're saying happening. However, I get that. If there was a good. But the policy says we may, we could.

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DTSD Webinars: Right? I was saying, we do. But I'm saying with policy says we may right, so we should keep it in there in case there was a case, and we wanted to. Right. Yes, like one example would be.

340
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:13.810
DTSD Webinars: they're a month out from graduating, and we say, that's covered, that's covered. They can finish out their year. That's already covered second semester seniors, we already allow that.

341
00:39:13.820 --> 00:39:15.579
DTSD Webinars: Well, it actually says in there

342
00:39:15.970 --> 00:39:25.690
DTSD Webinars: they can finish out the year, no matter what. Yeah. So, seniors, it's a second semester. And I think everyone else is the last mark. The last month or more, I think, yeah, yeah.

343
00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:32.310
DTSD Webinars: okay. I think if we're not going to change the one that says May to saying, not then we might as well.

344
00:39:33.030 --> 00:39:39.209
DTSD Webinars: yeah, this just accompanies that. So that there's a provision in place to be able to set a tuition rate for that.

345
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:54.579
DTSD Webinars: So how this policy does come into play at the beginning of the year we have a number of new residents that come to the district, and we allow them to start coming to school before they might actually move into their house. But we say, if you don't move into your residence

346
00:39:54.680 --> 00:40:13.310
DTSD Webinars: by this certain day you could be charged tuition. So since I've been here, I think this is year 11 or 12, I think that's happened 2 or 3 times that we've gone back and charged someone for for tuition. If it exceeds 120 days, tuition may be due. Okay.

347
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:15.160
DTSD Webinars: Gotcha.

348
00:40:15.290 --> 00:40:22.599
DTSD Webinars: and we've had those situations where people said they were moving into the district and provided false information so that they could enroll Yup

349
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:24.870
DTSD Webinars: Gotcha. Okay?

350
00:40:25.210 --> 00:40:26.609
DTSD Webinars: So now

351
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:33.099
DTSD Webinars: we already have the motion. So all those in favor of the changes to policy 607 on tuition students. Aye, aye.

352
00:40:33.340 --> 00:40:34.469
DTSD Webinars: any opposed?

353
00:40:35.170 --> 00:40:39.769
DTSD Webinars: Okay. So the policy moves on to the full board. So now we're into the 300 series.

354
00:40:39.970 --> 00:40:41.897
DTSD Webinars: They were all reviewed.

355
00:40:43.140 --> 00:40:49.350
DTSD Webinars: do we want to go through, or do we people want to pull out ones where they have changes where they cause I read through. I didn't have anything

356
00:40:49.590 --> 00:40:51.259
DTSD Webinars: that I felt needed to be

357
00:40:52.287 --> 00:41:02.420
DTSD Webinars: address. But if somebody, we can probably start with that, if somebody has a a policy that they want to pull out of these the 300 series to to talk about.

358
00:41:03.130 --> 00:41:27.810
DTSD Webinars: And then after that, do we? Yeah. So for our new members. What what we're trying to do is go on a cyclical rotation, and make sure that all our policies are looked at within a certain amount of years, and we haven't really determined how many years, that is, but when I 1st came to the district they were at the very end of of that process, so before that it might have been 1012, 15 years before policy was actually looked at. So

359
00:41:27.810 --> 00:41:44.910
DTSD Webinars: by reviewing them periodically, we're making sure that eyes are on them. In case a change does need to be made otherwise. We just really wait for the Psba to offer recommendations to change, but we still like to put eyes on them. In the meantime, just so we can say, Hey, listen!

360
00:41:44.930 --> 00:42:05.939
DTSD Webinars: At least, this group in this year took a look at it to make sure it was still relevant. Does it. Is there a place in the policy to put the date of the review? Yeah. So some of these may have not been reviewed since then, but when they are reviewed there is another line at the very top that would say, reviewed, and that's usually the last revision, date

361
00:42:06.930 --> 00:42:09.199
DTSD Webinars: or review date, not revision date.

362
00:42:10.270 --> 00:42:21.500
DTSD Webinars: And now these aren't ones that because there's no changes, there's nothing to approve with these unless somebody brings something up. No, so what we would do is add them to the agenda, and just saying policies that

363
00:42:21.570 --> 00:42:28.819
DTSD Webinars: our 30 day review on 30 day review, just for the purpose of being reviewed. So we can change change the date on, I see.

364
00:42:30.860 --> 00:42:36.959
DTSD Webinars: So I guess yeah, 1st off, is there any policies that anybody has out of this group that they would like to talk about

365
00:42:39.590 --> 00:42:41.380
DTSD Webinars: on principle.

366
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:48.950
DTSD Webinars: I will not vote for a review of language of assignment and transfer policy, because I voted against the changes in 2019.

367
00:42:49.690 --> 00:42:51.829
DTSD Webinars: So which one is 3 or 9,

368
00:43:03.540 --> 00:43:08.690
DTSD Webinars: it's in which shakes his head. I remember you know what's coming.

369
00:43:13.350 --> 00:43:22.257
DTSD Webinars: but we don't know what those changes sure. So there are not changes now. We're just reviewing it. In 2019 it was changed to

370
00:43:23.070 --> 00:43:36.629
DTSD Webinars: The second paragraph to be the Board shall approve the initial assignment of all employees at the time of employment, and shall recognize assignments that involved a transfer from one building to another, from one grade level to another, or when a position requires a certificate or credentials.

371
00:43:37.180 --> 00:43:53.290
DTSD Webinars: At the time, it was because there were teacher transfers happening in a building per policy. The Board at that time had the authority to approve those transfer, like those had to be approved. School code does not require the Board to do it.

372
00:43:53.750 --> 00:43:55.480
DTSD Webinars: Our policy did.

373
00:43:55.982 --> 00:44:03.700
DTSD Webinars: I felt that changing this policy right after there had been great discussion about the transfers.

374
00:44:04.900 --> 00:44:14.899
DTSD Webinars: was just not an appropriate move for the board to remove authority of the Board. You know, in those situations, because there were some questions around. You know

375
00:44:15.090 --> 00:44:17.770
DTSD Webinars: how it was done. We had had a lot of public feedback.

376
00:44:17.950 --> 00:44:30.070
DTSD Webinars: I'm not saying whether it was right or wrong. You know what had been done. I just didn't approve removing a provision of the policy that gave the Board the opportunity to have authority to intervene

377
00:44:31.270 --> 00:44:48.200
DTSD Webinars: when they thought necessary. So now it's just the initial assignment. Now it's the initial assignment, and then the Board has no authority to prohibit a transfer under those conditions. We? So that's why, like in our public meeting under Personnel General, it's the board approves.

378
00:44:48.500 --> 00:45:02.480
DTSD Webinars: The listed personnel, and recognition of any listed transfers was added to that, because for business office purposes we were still including them, and that was one of my big things about the policy is because in our public meeting we were still

379
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:09.599
DTSD Webinars: approving under the language the personnel transfers, because that's what is used for business office.

380
00:45:09.973 --> 00:45:14.210
DTSD Webinars: So we changed the language of personnel general to say, and recognizes

381
00:45:14.340 --> 00:45:16.040
DTSD Webinars: the transfers so that

382
00:45:17.490 --> 00:45:22.909
DTSD Webinars: it didn't seem like we were approving it because we didn't actually have authority to not approve it.

383
00:45:23.690 --> 00:45:33.339
DTSD Webinars: What was the rationale for taking away the authority? It was, yeah. So that's 1 where school code and and policy just didn't. They didn't match ours went further than school code did. Yeah.

384
00:45:33.590 --> 00:45:34.390
DTSD Webinars: Gotcha.

385
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.569
DTSD Webinars: would it be worth discussing

386
00:45:39.620 --> 00:45:43.370
DTSD Webinars: doing that again?

387
00:45:45.490 --> 00:45:49.890
DTSD Webinars: The Administration recommends that it stays the way it is.

388
00:45:52.010 --> 00:45:55.000
DTSD Webinars: As you know, I was in a district that was very

389
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:01.220
DTSD Webinars: affected by transfers of teachers every which way and furloughed. So

390
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:07.210
DTSD Webinars: be open to all kinds of conversations. But for those are a completely different story. There were a lot of transfers, too. Yes.

391
00:46:07.470 --> 00:46:08.959
DTSD Webinars: yeah, that's full. Yeah.

392
00:46:10.540 --> 00:46:11.870
DTSD Webinars: alright. So

393
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.650
DTSD Webinars: other discussion topics on any of the 300 series

394
00:46:17.230 --> 00:46:18.989
DTSD Webinars: being a doctor, I've sort of

395
00:46:19.030 --> 00:46:24.210
DTSD Webinars: focusing on some of the medical ones. This the physical examination? One

396
00:46:25.720 --> 00:46:26.940
DTSD Webinars: seems sort of

397
00:46:27.660 --> 00:46:29.149
DTSD Webinars: wishy washy.

398
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:37.139
DTSD Webinars: I'm used to the military where there's an AR that says, do the things that qualify and then disqualify you from being

399
00:46:38.180 --> 00:46:46.090
DTSD Webinars: in the military. Is there anything like that? I mean, this seems like sort of this is probably straight out of school code, right? This just seems a little

400
00:46:51.510 --> 00:46:54.949
DTSD Webinars: seems very broad. Wishy. Yeah, it's a physical right

401
00:46:55.100 --> 00:46:56.429
DTSD Webinars: to visit. Well.

402
00:46:58.560 --> 00:47:01.540
DTSD Webinars: but there's there's no guidelines. As to saying what?

403
00:47:01.810 --> 00:47:14.559
DTSD Webinars: Well, your point is that there's no guy saying what they're actually looking for in the physical. And it's just more of. So it yeah. So I mean, somewhat theoretically, we could use this to beat some, you know. Get rid of somebody, for

404
00:47:14.570 --> 00:47:15.850
DTSD Webinars: it'd be hard.

405
00:47:16.170 --> 00:47:17.590
DTSD Webinars: They'd have to be

406
00:47:17.820 --> 00:47:19.060
DTSD Webinars: 5 of us.

407
00:47:19.710 --> 00:47:20.500
DTSD Webinars: But

408
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.959
DTSD Webinars: yeah, it's still probably probably hard. But yeah.

409
00:47:28.310 --> 00:47:32.059
DTSD Webinars: oh, you're saying, get rid of someone. You can come up with any medical reason, that's 1.

410
00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:35.710
DTSD Webinars: But then, also.

411
00:47:37.540 --> 00:47:38.390
DTSD Webinars: if

412
00:47:38.640 --> 00:47:41.919
DTSD Webinars: somebody is legitimately having a problem.

413
00:47:42.830 --> 00:47:50.430
DTSD Webinars: being a teacher or being whatever because of a medical problem like this doesn't give you any teeth to do it either. So it's sort of like

414
00:47:55.080 --> 00:48:07.789
DTSD Webinars: like, is this here? Because Pennsylvania says, we need one or yeah. So this is correct. So this is a recommendation from Psbf, you notice, it was updated in 2020 at the time of Covid.

415
00:48:07.790 --> 00:48:26.749
DTSD Webinars: and I believe at that time they they did. But it doesn't even say like, if you've missed your job for 60 days or 45 days. No, so that that plays out in other policies that we have. Well, this is just at the beginning of employment. Correct. This is just. You need a physical exam at the beginning, not if you develop.

416
00:48:27.370 --> 00:48:33.470
DTSD Webinars: No, it says the Board may require a special medical examination for any school employee at any time.

417
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.939
DTSD Webinars: Correct? Correct? Okay.

418
00:48:38.040 --> 00:48:52.596
DTSD Webinars: but that. So since I've been here, we we have not done that unless it was a case of long term disability and getting 3rd opinion. So sometimes we do with workers comp cases. But outside of that

419
00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:56.729
DTSD Webinars: it's really not done a second physical exam.

420
00:48:57.184 --> 00:49:02.980
DTSD Webinars: For employment. But we have other policies and procedures to in place to address.

421
00:49:04.340 --> 00:49:13.809
DTSD Webinars: you know, staff members who are unable to perform the duties of their job. But the physical exam paperwork that we send out the pre-employment physical paperwork.

422
00:49:13.830 --> 00:49:23.770
DTSD Webinars: it really just asks, for the most part what their immunizations, and also has a spot for their Tb test results.

423
00:49:23.870 --> 00:49:28.560
DTSD Webinars: and then it does allow the physician to write down something that they believe would

424
00:49:28.770 --> 00:49:40.150
DTSD Webinars: prohibit the particular employee from doing their job, and since I've been here I haven't seen anything on there from a physician that says this person is not capable of performing this job

425
00:49:41.390 --> 00:49:54.320
DTSD Webinars: in policy. 304. There's a duplicate sentence on the 1st page. The district shall use the standard application for teaching positions, but may establish and implement additional application requirements for professional employees, and then it just it says it again.

426
00:49:55.770 --> 00:49:56.930
DTSD Webinars: It's just a grammar.

427
00:50:02.380 --> 00:50:03.620
DTSD Webinars: They really mean it.

428
00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:07.420
DTSD Webinars: See where it says 10, and then underneath it it's the same sentence.

429
00:50:08.110 --> 00:50:18.810
DTSD Webinars: See where it says, 10. Yeah. Like. All right. There, right right under your cursor. The district shall use the standard application. Yeah, look, the next one underneath it is the same sentence. Wasn't that something?

430
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.395
DTSD Webinars: We really do mean it like you said.

431
00:50:30.270 --> 00:50:39.119
DTSD Webinars: I have just a question out of curiosity for policies 3, 20, and 3, 21 on freedom of speech and non-school settings and political activities. Does that ever come up?

432
00:50:39.870 --> 00:50:40.580
DTSD Webinars: Yes.

433
00:50:40.980 --> 00:50:41.970
DTSD Webinars: and

434
00:50:42.790 --> 00:50:59.419
DTSD Webinars: like. So when a when an employee, when someone becomes an employee of the district like, how are these types of things reviewed? Because I know we've had situations where employees, you know, speak out about things or do that. And it would be applicable for the language in this policy. I'm just curious like how this

435
00:50:59.450 --> 00:51:00.590
DTSD Webinars: would be.

436
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:10.609
DTSD Webinars: Actually, Hea is really great about reminding Staff each year of of these kinds of policies, and where

437
00:51:10.620 --> 00:51:15.329
DTSD Webinars: some of those lines are, and they do a really good job of self monitoring.

438
00:51:15.883 --> 00:51:16.929
DTSD Webinars: And then.

439
00:51:17.230 --> 00:51:26.181
DTSD Webinars: yeah, so we also have guidelines that we created with both associations on social media. And what's appropriate, what's not appropriate for new teachers?

440
00:51:26.720 --> 00:51:37.779
DTSD Webinars: one of the things we have is a school law session where I go through what's appropriate and what's not appropriate, and and how the law protects them, but also that the different pieces of of

441
00:51:38.470 --> 00:51:44.789
DTSD Webinars: that they need to be worried about so not all staff, but professional staff members do get that that training. And

442
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.876
DTSD Webinars: actually, it's coming up in a couple of weeks.

443
00:51:48.290 --> 00:51:59.179
DTSD Webinars: so new professional staff get the training. All staff have access to the social media guidelines that we created probably 7 or 8 years ago that are still pretty effective. Yeah.

444
00:52:00.530 --> 00:52:02.600
DTSD Webinars: So in the in the one on a.

445
00:52:03.390 --> 00:52:06.679
DTSD Webinars: was it? 3, 21 for political

446
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.399
DTSD Webinars: political activities? It says in there they

447
00:52:09.600 --> 00:52:14.240
DTSD Webinars: if they're hold, if they hold elective office. They're not entitled to time off

448
00:52:14.520 --> 00:52:17.930
DTSD Webinars: for their school duties. Didn't we approve a policy last time of?

449
00:52:18.420 --> 00:52:28.320
DTSD Webinars: If they're elected to like a State position. They're allowed to get their job back. Correct is that. But it's not time off. It's just their job back. Right? Is that correct? Yeah. Leave. Okay?

450
00:52:28.981 --> 00:52:31.159
DTSD Webinars: I have a question on 3 11,

451
00:52:31.220 --> 00:52:36.199
DTSD Webinars: just at the very end. There's some references to

452
00:52:36.681 --> 00:53:03.448
DTSD Webinars: dates, and I didn't know if either of these were outdated and could be removed. Yeah, so this is the May 1st date. I think you're there's no. This one's November 6, th 2017, the very end of the bold marking at the yeah, but I mean, if you have other ones too. But the suspension provisions of a collective bargaining agreement in place prior to November 6, th 2017. I feel that that's probably expired. Right? Yeah, so this is just so. This was all.

453
00:53:04.270 --> 00:53:10.230
DTSD Webinars: we can probably get rid of that at this time, but that was language that Psba and added, so that there was

454
00:53:10.390 --> 00:53:12.700
DTSD Webinars: they wanted. Everybody know that this took a

455
00:53:13.220 --> 00:53:23.440
DTSD Webinars: effect at this particular point in time. So you just keep it unless they say to remove it, or we can. I mean, I just didn't know if when we're updating, we got rid of unnecessary.

456
00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:30.620
DTSD Webinars: Perhaps it is still necessary. No, so both of our collective learning agreements have expired since that time.

457
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:42.669
DTSD Webinars: and when you look at the last revised date of November 12, th 2018. It would have made sense to have include that. So it probably makes sense to take it out. Now then, like I said, just to clean it up.

458
00:53:45.750 --> 00:53:48.670
DTSD Webinars: since we're just jumping around on these.

459
00:53:48.770 --> 00:53:50.089
DTSD Webinars: do we want to?

460
00:53:50.180 --> 00:54:02.080
DTSD Webinars: Do you want to go through and address the individual policies that we're either suggesting a revision on or pulling out separately and then group together the remainder of them for

461
00:54:02.200 --> 00:54:12.059
DTSD Webinars: approval to be reviewed. Yeah, I was going to go down and say, now up to, because from what? 3 0, 1 to 308, we had no discussion on, so we could approve that as revision as is right.

462
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.660
DTSD Webinars: I was gonna just group them group 3, 0, 1 to 3 0, 8 together. So

463
00:54:19.091 --> 00:54:22.360
DTSD Webinars: if there's no discussion on those. Can I get a motion to approve?

464
00:54:22.630 --> 00:54:26.150
DTSD Webinars: I guess no revisions and movement as reviewed.

465
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:28.240
DTSD Webinars: So move Tracy Royo

466
00:54:28.330 --> 00:54:30.869
DTSD Webinars: seconds to recover any discussion.

467
00:54:32.080 --> 00:54:33.529
DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor

468
00:54:34.600 --> 00:54:38.890
DTSD Webinars: they opposed. So then they'll go on to the board as as reviewed. Right?

469
00:54:39.705 --> 00:54:43.100
DTSD Webinars: Then we got policy 3 0. 9,

470
00:54:43.450 --> 00:54:54.140
DTSD Webinars: which we don't have any proposed changes, but we are going to vote separately on this one for a movement to move to the board as reviewed. So can I get a motion to move 309

471
00:54:54.740 --> 00:54:57.900
DTSD Webinars: onto the board as reviewed.

472
00:54:58.870 --> 00:55:00.339
DTSD Webinars: So move Stuart will cover

473
00:55:02.020 --> 00:55:03.650
DTSD Webinars: second Tracy arroyo.

474
00:55:03.830 --> 00:55:05.330
DTSD Webinars: Any more. Discussion?

475
00:55:06.580 --> 00:55:10.670
DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor. Aye, any opposed? Aye.

476
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:13.920
DTSD Webinars: so the most

477
00:55:14.316 --> 00:55:18.083
DTSD Webinars: so that moves on to the board, for as reviewed.

478
00:55:19.430 --> 00:55:31.630
DTSD Webinars: let's see, we 3 clarification purpose to my vote. No, here in policy committee like it moves on as a majority of the policy Committee to the Full Board. There's there's no designation that

479
00:55:31.910 --> 00:55:50.939
DTSD Webinars: that there was, you know, a 3 to one vote. The policy Committee has approved this to be removed, yes, or removed. Policy Committee has approved this to be moved on as reviewed. Yes, my individual votes just now. Yes, and going back to 3 or 4,

480
00:55:50.940 --> 00:56:02.559
DTSD Webinars: we did agree to take away the double sentence rate. Oh, yeah, sorry. Yes, that's right. 3 or 4 was changed, but that's I don't think that's really a revision. No, because it's not a change in the code.

481
00:56:03.390 --> 00:56:04.979
DTSD Webinars: Then in a

482
00:56:05.650 --> 00:56:10.790
DTSD Webinars: there's nothing on so 3 0. 9.1 on telework. Can I get a motion to approve that? As reviewed

483
00:56:12.300 --> 00:56:16.840
DTSD Webinars: so moved, Lindsey drew seconds to recover all those in favor. Aye, aye.

484
00:56:17.550 --> 00:56:18.689
DTSD Webinars: any opposed?

485
00:56:19.190 --> 00:56:23.479
DTSD Webinars: Alright. So then, policy 3, 11. Reduction of staff. We. We

486
00:56:23.630 --> 00:56:27.999
DTSD Webinars: decided to remove those last 2 statements because they're not

487
00:56:28.585 --> 00:56:32.999
DTSD Webinars: necessary. And then so we that will be move on to the board as revised. Right?

488
00:56:33.290 --> 00:56:41.150
DTSD Webinars: So can I get a motion to move a possibly 3, 11 reduction of staff with the changes that we discussed onto the full board for discussion.

489
00:56:41.700 --> 00:56:45.430
DTSD Webinars: So move Tracy Royal. Second, Stewart will cover any discussion.

490
00:56:46.070 --> 00:56:49.000
DTSD Webinars: Okay, all those in favor. Aye, any opposed?

491
00:56:49.830 --> 00:56:52.589
DTSD Webinars: Okay? Then, I see. Then we did.

492
00:56:55.110 --> 00:56:57.930
DTSD Webinars: 3, 12 and 3, 13 was no discussion on that

493
00:57:00.220 --> 00:57:11.550
DTSD Webinars: right? So can I get a motion? Are you proposing a change to 3? No? Oh, okay, we're just discussing it. Okay, Gotcha, okay?

494
00:57:11.950 --> 00:57:23.909
DTSD Webinars: And then you're not. Also, you're not proposing a discussion, any changes on 320 and 3, 21 on political activities. You're just asking clarification. So if that's the case, then we could do 3.

495
00:57:25.270 --> 00:57:28.599
DTSD Webinars: Yeah, we can do. 3, 12, 3, 11,

496
00:57:28.640 --> 00:57:40.600
DTSD Webinars: 3, 12, 3, 12 to 3, 27. My only question is, and I don't know the answer to this. So I'm looking for some help. The 3 14.1 is that a policy that's still needed?

497
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.739
DTSD Webinars: Yeah, we're just talking about before like where did they?

498
00:57:44.350 --> 00:57:47.650
DTSD Webinars: What spurred that to to call out HIV infection?

499
00:57:48.010 --> 00:57:55.150
DTSD Webinars: 8. There are specific requirements in the law, for when you can and can't

500
00:57:55.580 --> 00:57:56.390
DTSD Webinars: S.

501
00:57:56.830 --> 00:57:59.160
DTSD Webinars: And can do things with HIV

502
00:57:59.950 --> 00:58:02.789
DTSD Webinars: that I mean, I read through there. There's nothing

503
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:05.650
DTSD Webinars: it is still like

504
00:58:06.130 --> 00:58:14.730
DTSD Webinars: you still have to specifically ask somebody, can I test you for HIV? And there's a specific consent form that has to be filled out.

505
00:58:15.600 --> 00:58:16.560
DTSD Webinars: That's

506
00:58:16.790 --> 00:58:20.529
DTSD Webinars: not the same for any other disease. So it's

507
00:58:20.690 --> 00:58:21.860
DTSD Webinars: it's not.

508
00:58:22.160 --> 00:58:25.310
DTSD Webinars: I mean, I read through it. It doesn't seem right.

509
00:58:26.700 --> 00:58:43.429
DTSD Webinars: So then there'd be no reason to take it out. Yeah, you said you want to keep it in. But I would leave it in. And okay, I think it has to do with disclosure as well. Yeah, you can't disclose that someone has. You can't require disclosure. But yeah, I mean, that sort of falls under their medical exam. You can't disclose that, either.

510
00:58:43.970 --> 00:58:45.250
DTSD Webinars: Right? Yeah.

511
00:58:46.750 --> 00:58:47.440
DTSD Webinars: Oh.

512
00:58:48.130 --> 00:58:50.190
DTSD Webinars: it started. But I don't know right now

513
00:58:50.450 --> 00:58:51.799
DTSD Webinars: broke the only.

514
00:58:54.180 --> 00:58:57.419
DTSD Webinars: so then we want to keep that in so then be no changes to that other.

515
00:58:57.430 --> 00:59:03.380
DTSD Webinars: I suspect this is Federal State law or something in there. That's what I'm guessing the Federal piece.

516
00:59:08.420 --> 00:59:13.930
DTSD Webinars: Alright. So can I get a motion to approve policies 3, 12, through 3, 27

517
00:59:14.040 --> 00:59:16.069
DTSD Webinars: to move on to the board as

518
00:59:16.120 --> 00:59:18.619
DTSD Webinars: as reviewed, same as Stuart Mccarran.

519
00:59:18.930 --> 00:59:21.239
DTSD Webinars: Second, Tracy Royo. All those in favor.

520
00:59:21.290 --> 00:59:23.000
DTSD Webinars: Hi, any approves?

521
00:59:24.510 --> 00:59:25.930
DTSD Webinars: Okay, so

522
00:59:26.420 --> 00:59:27.389
DTSD Webinars: that's it.

523
00:59:27.570 --> 00:59:29.750
DTSD Webinars: No new policies we have. But we have.

524
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.830
DTSD Webinars: Oh, no, nobody in the public is anybody online.

525
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.140
DTSD Webinars: not at this time.

526
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:46.609
DTSD Webinars: Okay, so then we move to adjournment. So you need to be impressed with how many policies we're getting through in an hour. This is really impressive.

527
00:59:47.710 --> 00:59:50.600
DTSD Webinars: And there was good discussion around. Yeah, no, that was good.

528
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:52.440
DTSD Webinars: Okay. So till

529
00:59:53.560 --> 01:00:00.170
DTSD Webinars: I don't know when the next meeting is usually January, February, February. Okay.

530
01:00:01.220 --> 01:00:01.910
DTSD Webinars: alright

531
01:00:03.930 --> 01:00:08.560
DTSD Webinars: meeting adjourned. I don't think we need a motion. We don't need a motion to close it. Right? Yeah, we do. Oh, we do.

532
01:00:09.020 --> 01:00:15.240
DTSD Webinars: Second Tracy Royo. Those in favor. Aye, how come for curriculum? We didn't then.

533
01:00:16.990 --> 01:00:23.710
DTSD Webinars: Curriculum's always a little different. It is. It's always a little different in curriculum.

