DTSD Webinars: Good evening. I'd like to call the November sixth, 2,023. Meeting of the Derry Township School District Board of Directors to order
DTSD Webinars: and announce that this meeting is being live, streamed, and audio recorded.
DTSD Webinars: This meeting is being conducted both in person and virtually like to request for board members to please state your name when speaking.
DTSD Webinars: This is Ag. Roll call, please, Mr. Venice, President, Dr. Cronin. Here, Miss Drew, here, doctor, here, Mr. Rizzo here, Mr. Schmidt. Here, Mrs. Sicker. Here, Mr. Singer, here.
DTSD Webinars: thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Please rise, if you're able, and join me for the pledge of allegiance.
DTSD Webinars: But you just see the flag of the United States of America.
DTSD Webinars: Elimination, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
DTSD Webinars: may have a motion to approve. The November 6, 2,023 board of Directors agenda. So moved, Lindsey drew second. Maria Mummy. Is there any discussion?
DTSD Webinars: This is standard voice. Vote all in favor, please say aye, aye, any opposed? No.
DTSD Webinars: thank you. The agenda is approved. Moving on to agenda. Item 2.
DTSD Webinars: Informational and proposals
presentation presentation from Crabtree Roar Bar and associates, Anthony Colstock.
DTSD Webinars: How much else?
DTSD Webinars: So thanks for having me
DTSD Webinars: update on the community meeting that we had on the 20 sixth, at the General Service meeting. Last month I were
DTSD Webinars: presented a draft of the presentation got some feedback from from those committee members. The 20 sixth. We had the meeting we had a decent turnout
DTSD Webinars: Afterwards we were able to give a tour of the building to those that wanted. We broke up into 2 groups and took them around. Show them some of the deficiencies that we talked about during the presentation. So
this was the this was the Powerpoint
DTSD Webinars: that we presented.
and
DTSD Webinars: just going to give an overview of the slides and
DTSD Webinars: try not to give getting too much, because see that you guys have a busy night ahead of you. But
DTSD Webinars: the agenda. What we did was, we went into a little bit of the history and the background of the building. Then we discussed some of the educational program deficiencies, and how the architecture of the existing elementary school could no longer help the district deliver the curriculum.
DTSD Webinars: Want to point out this presentation focused on the elementary school. It wasn't on the Ecc. We talked a little bit about the deficiencies of how the building is organized and how it was designed in the 1950 S. And planning principles today are very different from how they were in the 1950 s.
DTSD Webinars: We talked about areas of the building that are not compliant with the international building code or the Americans with Disability Act.
DTSD Webinars: We talked about the Mep systems and how they're at the end of their end of their life. And we talked a little bit about how the
DTSD Webinars: vehicular and pedestrians navigate through the site, and how it's
DTSD Webinars: a challenge in the beginning of the day, and at the end of the day so I'll review a little bit of that.
So this slide was just to kind of give a little bit of A history of both buildings when they were constructed when they were when they had additions the size of them. The grade levels
DTSD Webinars: and you'll see a theme is one of the deficiencies is obviously, we all know this. This. There's 2 separate buildings, which makes it very difficult for the administrative team to for their operations. So this graphic right here just illustrates
DTSD Webinars: the footprints of the original school built in 1954, and then the addition in 1991. And then, when the Ecc. Was built separately in 2,002, and then the band room in 2,011, and one of the things that we have pointed out was even in 1954, with having a one-story building.
DTSD Webinars: It started to sprawl. And then over in 1991, when that edition was included, it started to sprawl again. And then so you're gonna see a recurring theme of having this having this building with all these corridors, and how much time it takes
for the students and the teachers to get from one end of the building to another.
DTSD Webinars: and what it does is it? It starts to interrupt in instructional time.
DTSD Webinars: So we gave the community just a an overview of your timeline as a district. For how long you've been thinking about
DTSD Webinars: renovating and replacing this building. So this started back in 2,014 when you hired Fannie Howie to do a study on capital improvement projects. So that would just be replacing the existing building systems, because even in 2,014. They were starting to reach the end of their life. 9 and 2,018. You also had more engineering out of Lancaster. Did a similar study
DTSD Webinars: in 2,020 and 2022. You hire 2 architecture firms
DTSD Webinars: that did a facility study to look at options of renovating or or replacing the building. And then, obviously earlier this year, you hired us to move forward with the project. So
DTSD Webinars: we just wanted to point out that this decision to replace the building isn't something that's just happened. This has been planning and being discussed for almost 10 years now.
DTSD Webinars: So these were some of the noted building deficiencies that I'm going to review in the in the presentation. But anybody that's in the audience. This presentation already is on the district website. If you want to take a look at it into a little bit more detail.
DTSD Webinars: So as I mentioned that
DTSD Webinars: the school designed in 1954 spaces back then are, gonna be more teacher focused. And students with these large desks not very flexible, difficult to come up with a different arrangement. So in the 1950. S, we're building schools where it's just the teacher standing at the front delivering content.
DTSD Webinars: That model is not
what the curriculum is currently
DTSD Webinars: at the elementary school. Spaces that are agile and flexible.
DTSD Webinars: This is the type of space that the district needs to deliver that curriculum, and they are making the best use of the space that they have.
DTSD Webinars: In addition to that. to those flexible classrooms. They also need breakout spaces so that they can have individual study or small group of study and instruction.
DTSD Webinars: So this next exercise is just kind of illustrate
how
DTSD Webinars: the school is making the best use of spaces
DTSD Webinars: that were not originally intended to be learning spaces. So on the left you have a small group room. That this space was originally was originally a storage storage room, and then you'll see that there's a breakout space
DTSD Webinars: that is in the hallway where there's a partition that's kind of blocking and providing some privacy. But you can see it's just right next to that exterior door. So these corridors
DTSD Webinars: we're not designed for this type of instruction.
DTSD Webinars: But again, the school's making the best use for the space that they have.
DTSD Webinars: So this next exercise that we showed the community was it wasn't to come up with a design solution of putting additions onto the building. But it was just to show how.
DTSD Webinars: with your educational program, how it's grown and how you currently use the space, there currently isn't enough space in the existing school to meet your program needs.
DTSD Webinars: The the reason for that is you're trying to keep your
DTSD Webinars: classes at a certain threshold. A certain average per students, however, with a slight increase in projected enrollment that we had discussed a couple of months ago with Dr. With them. You're projected to potentially need around 12 classrooms per grade level.
DTSD Webinars: In addition to that, your special education has also increased, and the need for the special education classrooms that now you're
DTSD Webinars: taking space for those programs,
wherever you can within within the within the school.
DTSD Webinars: So this is currently how you use the space. The classrooms
DTSD Webinars: in the school. This is color coded blue. Are your general classrooms? Green is your special Ed
DTSD Webinars: pink is your administrative spaces. Music is the red. Some of the creative arts are the the light blue, and the public spaces are are the large assembly spaces are
DTSD Webinars: and the purple based upon your proposed educational program.
DTSD Webinars: You would need this many more. Oh.
DTSD Webinars: click! That slide is not coming out, Sarah. Could you press on the next button to see if that comes.
Hmm.
DTSD Webinars: that's okay.
Well. that's okay.
DTSD Webinars: It turned out to be about 25,000 square feet. So we had an illustration on here that was to scale to show how many more additional classrooms you would have to add to the existing building to meet your educational program requirements. So it was approximately 25,000 square feet.
DTSD Webinars: So then, from there we did this cost analysis that if you were to renovate the existing building.
DTSD Webinars: and you were to build that if you could build 150, the 25 additional
1,000 square feet.
DTSD Webinars: what would that cost look like
DTSD Webinars: to new construction
DTSD Webinars: of a similar size. and you'll see that cost. That we came up with our construction data was but was
a little bit closer.
DTSD Webinars: 56 million
DTSD Webinars: for the renovation and the addition, and 74 million
for the new construction.
DTSD Webinars: So as a planning principle. And this is this has been adopted by the Department of any education, that whenever you're looking at renovating or replacing a building.
DTSD Webinars: when your renovation and addition costs
DTSD Webinars: are equal to, or more than 80% of a new construction cost. It is more cost effective
DTSD Webinars: for the new construction.
DTSD Webinars: And with our analysis it came out to be about 76%.
DTSD Webinars: The renovations and addition was about 76% of the new construction cost.
DTSD Webinars: I want to point out from the information that we were provided from your 2 previous architects.
DTSD Webinars: their renovation and addition costs, and those scenarios and those studies. it was 80%
DTSD Webinars: of their new construction cost.
DTSD Webinars: So again, you now have 3 architects that are telling you. It is more cost-effective to replace the building rather than do additions and renovations.
DTSD Webinars: We believe, and I think why you hired us that we can bring in the cost lower than what your architects had in their the 2 studies.
DTSD Webinars: But the percentages are around the same amount.
DTSD Webinars: I ask a question before you chance. This is Lindsey Drew.
DTSD Webinars: it absolutely makes sense from the percentage and the economical perspective of it. Are you able to shed any light and discuss what the student impact is during a process for either renovation in addition or new construction. And, you know, like out of classroom time finding alternative locations to deliver instruction.
DTSD Webinars: Well, a a renovation is gonna be a lot more disruptive.
DTSD Webinars: the
DTSD Webinars: without having a design solution. But understanding that there's probably going to be some phase, demolition, and new construction. There will be some student disruption.
DTSD Webinars: But
there's going to be a lot more moving around
DTSD Webinars: with a renovation project, especially with the limited space. This is a great segue.
DTSD Webinars: for where you can put additions on this existing site a lot of times when we'll do renovations and additions.
DTSD Webinars: If we have. If we're building new classrooms, we can do a new classroom wing, say, maybe has 12 or 24 classrooms, and you start with that new construction first, and when it's done, move the students from the old classrooms into the new classroom, so the contractors can come in and renovate the building. However.
DTSD Webinars: because of the existing conditions and site constraints.
DTSD Webinars: You have to do this this graphic right here is showing
DTSD Webinars: proposed editions from the previous architects
DTSD Webinars: design solution for additions or renovations.
DTSD Webinars: and all all the orange. What's shown in orange? Those are the classroom additions. So you see, it gets to be a lot of little additions here and there which that type of construction
DTSD Webinars: comes at a premium.
DTSD Webinars: and there is nowhere else on the site that you could build a large classroom addition without interrupting the bus drop off and the parent drop off, which already have current deficiencies.
DTSD Webinars: So would it be just kind of
DTSD Webinars: on a broad level, would it be safe to generalize it as a renovation addition would be less
DTSD Webinars: cost, effective and economical for the district long term and more disruptive to learning. Yes, new construction would be less disruptive. Yeah, and more financial. Okay.
DTSD Webinars: excuse me. This is quick question. Could you go back to the list of renovation versus new construction.
DTSD Webinars: Did I hear you correctly? So the 74. But that doesn't include
DTSD Webinars: yes, this is not intended to be a design solution. This is just an analysis that if you were to
DTSD Webinars: knowing that your educational program of what you need to add to the existing building of 25,000 square feet.
DTSD Webinars: If you were to do a new building.
DTSD Webinars: It's a hypothetical new building of approximately the same square footage. That is what that new construction would cost.
DTSD Webinars: But this is not intended to be a design solution and the final cost.
DTSD Webinars: We still have some things we're working out on the educational program with the administration, we'll develop that. We have some meetings with faculty that are coming up. And then we'll start looking at a design solution. Yeah, because you did say it did not include the Ecc
correct. Thank you.
So the next thing in the presentation that we looked at was how the 1 billion is currently organized, and we talked about
DTSD Webinars: good planning principles of separating your Assembly spaces your public spaces from your academic spaces.
DTSD Webinars: and when you, wherever you place those assembly spaces, it's best that they're by the main entry, so you can lock down the A/C academic spaces at night, and they're also located
DTSD Webinars: close to the administration for supervision.
DTSD Webinars: So your assembly spaces of cafeteria, the library, the library, the gym, even the the multi purpose room. You can see they're kind of embedded into the school, far away from far away from the main entrance.
DTSD Webinars: So you don't have that ability to lock down those academic spaces during evening events, and it creates
DTSD Webinars: it creates some supervision challenges for the administration from where they're located, adjacent to that main entrance with their proximity, and how far they're how far they're away from those assembly spaces.
DTSD Webinars: So whatever our design solution is, those types of spaces are going to be close to the main entrance and close to the close to the Admin.
DTSD Webinars: So also talked about
DTSD Webinars: having your grade levels housed within an academic wing so that teachers can share resources, and they can collaborate. They're kind of housed within a community.
DTSD Webinars: The only grade level that is housed within one academic wing is the second grade and the darker gray. You'll see the I'm sorry the first, or I'm sorry. Third.
DTSD Webinars: see that the second.
DTSD Webinars: It's a little disjointed in the orange
DTSD Webinars: fifth grade, a little disjointed in that darker blue. But the fourth grade is in 2 separate academic wings altogether.
DTSD Webinars: So again, our design solution, whatever it is, we're going to be housing these classrooms that they're clustered together, and it creates more of a community learning environment.
DTSD Webinars: Then we talked about how this building is sprawling. It also has a lot of exits and entrances which also become
DTSD Webinars: supervision issue.
So the school has approximately 2,500 feet of corridor.
DTSD Webinars: That is a lot. And then we talked about the distance from
DTSD Webinars: some of the assembly spaces and the big box spaces.
DTSD Webinars: So this little heat map is any classroom, any general classroom that is in red is 500 feet.
DTSD Webinars: From those classrooms to the gym. Orange represents
DTSD Webinars: 400. The yellow is 300. The darker gray is, is less than 300. So
DTSD Webinars: the furthest distance from a classroom to the gymnasium is 530 feet. We also did this exercise for the cafeteria.
DTSD Webinars: You'll see there's about 520 feet from the furthest classroom to the calf.
DTSD Webinars: and then we also looked at it from the administrative offices
that from the administrative office to
DTSD Webinars: particular classrooms, and that in some of those cases it's almost 500 550 square feet
talking with the Administration, talking with the faculty. One of the things that
DTSD Webinars: some of the teachers have to do is they have to cut
DTSD Webinars: the instruction just a little bit short
DTSD Webinars: so they can get a jump on going to some of these types of spaces. So again, it's cutting into your instructional time.
So the design solution is a 2 story building.
DTSD Webinars: And then, in addition to that.
DTSD Webinars: these corridors and hallways are very institutional. It's difficult for wayfinding. They all kind of look the same.
DTSD Webinars: There's not a lot of moments or opportunities for rest or for pause. It's just a lot of a lot of hallways.
DTSD Webinars: We talked a little bit about how the building doesn't comply with current code.
DTSD Webinars: which is okay.
because his grandfather did.
DTSD Webinars: However, when you do a renovation, you're going to have to bring all
DTSD Webinars: you have to bring the building up to code and up to Ada. So this illustration, this graphic. We talked about. An orange is bathrooms that are
DTSD Webinars: don't have Ada clearances.
DTSD Webinars: The green represents a ramp that is not Ada accessible. The areas in red represents. It's actually 2 things. There are
DTSD Webinars: either classrooms that don't have enough means of egress out of them. which means that they would require 2 means of egress, and they currently have one
DTSD Webinars: and then also, the building code requires depending on the occupant load of the building.
DTSD Webinars: You need so many feet of exits out of the building which currently does not comply with that code requirement.
DTSD Webinars: And then the last one is all those blue dots on. There is door pockets or doors that do not meet Ada clearances.
DTSD Webinars: And so that door, those doors that don't meet Ada clearance is that
DTSD Webinars: from the latch side to that side wall it has to be between 12 inches to 18 inches. So depending on if you're pulling the door so door door towards you, or you're pushing it away from you.
DTSD Webinars: there's an Ada clearance requirement.
DTSD Webinars: So if this building was to be renovated. all these door pockets would have to be adjusted.
DTSD Webinars: Those block walls would have to be moved.
DTSD Webinars: That becomes a very finicky
DTSD Webinars: renovation. There are a lot of classroom sinks that are not Ada compliant.
DTSD Webinars: The ramp on the right is the ramp. I was pointing out, that is not Ada compliant is too steep.
DTSD Webinars: and then even access to the gymnasium
DTSD Webinars: there is. It's not accessible. and students have to take the long way around on an accessible route to get to the gym.
DTSD Webinars: I just want to note that the Americans with Disability act. It doesn't just apply to people that would be in a wheelchair
DTSD Webinars: could be anybody that has maybe even like a temporary handicap of somebody that's in in crutches. So
DTSD Webinars: We would have to find design solutions for for all of these.
DTSD Webinars: all these issues. This is Lindsey Drew of it. Was there any calculation done with the looking at the number of feet, you know, from classroom to gym, the furthest distance. Was there any calculation done for?
DTSD Webinars: re- relative to disabilities? And looking at that, because one of the things that became really apparent to me a couple of years ago, during our annual senior walk, was I happen to be with a number of our students who were in a wheelchair, or maybe had some you know, varying level of disability for that, and couldn't believe how many times they had to
DTSD Webinars: deviate away from the group to take an alternate route to meet back up inside of that elementary school. And I think that that's such a huge part of this project and addressing those because I would imagine that their instructional time is being cut into even more significantly.
DTSD Webinars: W. We didn't do a calculation of of how long that route is. But during the tours there's actually the administration that that pointed that out, and the route that the students would have to take, so
DTSD Webinars: I'm sure they probably know off the top of their head. But it wasn't shown in the presentation, but it was talked about during the tour. That's the building principles. That had that information. But that
DTSD Webinars: cutting into instructional time is likely. Well, much more significant for.
DTSD Webinars: thank you. And, as I pointed out, there's, you know, even for students that don't have disabilities from getting from one end to the
DTSD Webinars: building to the other.
DTSD Webinars: There's some instructional time that is being cut into.
So this was just
DTSD Webinars: an overview of the mechanical, electrical and plumbing systems, and how they're nearing the end of their life. You have an outdated Hvac system. So any renovation it would have to be completely replaced. And then, just noting the life expectancy where certain pieces of of equipment are, or if they're getting close to the end of their life.
DTSD Webinars: won't go into all those details. But again, if you wanna look at them. They're on the the district website also pointed out that there is crawl space under the elementary school, which is very difficult for
DTSD Webinars: the maintenance department to work in. And then you have pipe conditions. They're like this. I just wanna note this does not. This is not impacting the quality of your water right now. This is just on the exterior of it
DTSD Webinars: of the piping
DTSD Webinars: underground. Excuse me in those crawl spaces. So
DTSD Webinars: And then the last one was just a site analysis, where we reviewed
DTSD Webinars: the drop off and pick up good great designing principle that you have separate bus drop off from your parent. Drop off.
however.
DTSD Webinars: because of the 2 separate buildings. so to see outlined in yellow is the bus drop off at
drop off.
DTSD Webinars: A bus is kind of making like a couple of different stops along that driveway, so that during dropping off for the Ecc.
And students are going into the Ecc at either 2 locations.
DTSD Webinars: and then it pulls up along the driveway a little bit further and it drops off. Students at the elementary school, and they're going into maybe one or 2 locations. This is a lot of supervision for the teachers.
DTSD Webinars: Ideally. you want students coming in to one, maybe 2 entrances into a building.
DTSD Webinars: But just for the bus you're looking at
DTSD Webinars: 4, maybe 5.
So that's a drop off
DTSD Webinars: at dismissal.
Buses run pretty smoothly. However, the parent pick up.
DTSD Webinars: I'm sure some of you have had students here, and probably know firsthand by experience.
DTSD Webinars: The queuing for the parent pickup is extremely long. I just heard somebody in the audience say it was terrible.
DTSD Webinars: Yeah.
DTSD Webinars: I don't think I need to say more. but what happens is you get stuck in a queuing line.
DTSD Webinars: And really, what would help is again, if there's one entry point, maybe 2 for students to enter and to exit.
DTSD Webinars: And if there was a way that we could develop a longer queueing line
DTSD Webinars: or and
DTSD Webinars: alleviate some of that traffic congestion. So the blue was the elementary school. The purple was Ecc. But they kinda end up using the same driveway, and it's a really long wait time for for people to get people to get through there.
Hmm.
DTSD Webinars: so
thank you, Anthony. Anybody else have any questions. Mr. Colstock.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you very much. Yep, thank you.
DTSD Webinars: We'll move on to
DTSD Webinars: agenda. Item 2 B. President communications. I'd like to announce. The Board met an executive session prior to this meeting to discuss labor relations
moving on to agenda. Item 2 c. Recognition of citizens. This is an opportunity for residents and taxpayers to address the Board on matters related to the agenda. Citizens wishing to speak if in person, should complete and turn in a registration form to the Board secretary, Mrs. Aging
DTSD Webinars: registration forms can be found on the signing table adjacent to the boardroom entrance when your name is announced, come to the microphone. If I'm lying. you must have registered individually with your full name and address to be recognized.
DTSD Webinars: Raise your virtual hand for recognition. Whether you're in the room or online. Once recognized or unmuted, it is only necessary that you identify yourself by providing your full name.
This is a reminder that public comment is not a forum for personal attacks, antagonistic behavior, or harassment. Please be advised that you are accountable for any legal ramifications and liability that results from statements that misrepresent the truth
DTSD Webinars: to fame individuals or disclose personal information that is not of public concern. to provide other residents with an opportunity to speak. Each speaker during the public comment portion is limited to 5 min of speaking, time once recognized.
DTSD Webinars: and limit it to one opportunity to address the Board during each of the public comment periods. if necessary, the Board may set a maximum time for the public comment portion of any meeting. I'll ask board treasurer, Mr. Rizzo, to please keep time.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Are there any residents or taxpayers in the room who have registered to comment at this time. Yes, we have Sue, myers.
Okay.
Hello! I want to thank
DTSD Webinars: and commend the Dairy Township school district
DTSD Webinars: superintendent.
DTSD Webinars: the board, the teachers. and all its employees for the superior education provided to my husband. my 2 daughters.
DTSD Webinars: And now.
DTSD Webinars: giving this excellence to 3 of my grandsons.
DTSD Webinars: Last week.
I received
DTSD Webinars: 2 very troubling campaign flyers. Excuse me just 1 min.
DTSD Webinars: That's not an item that's on the agenda
DTSD Webinars: so this this comment, public comment period for citizens would
DTSD Webinars: would not be available for that kind of discussion
DTSD Webinars: to wait.
DTSD Webinars: and she can come back to me. Second.
DTSD Webinars: yeah, you can come back during the second comment period, which is at the end of the meeting.
Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Anybody else. They also have Jennifer Slobby.
DTSD Webinars: Hello! Thank you all for giving me the opportunity.
DTSD Webinars: I'm commenting on the Crabtree Aurora presentation.
DTSD Webinars: What I would challenge us all to think about is, we don't want to build a building that is, for 2025. We don't we? Wanna this to last another 50 years. We need to be thinking about the future. What do we need in 2050? What do we need in 2060?
DTSD Webinars: And the question I keep bringing, you know, I just keep asking, what is the future plan for what special education going to look like cause. What we don't want to do is build a building. Here's our building. And then 1025, 10 years later.
we realize
DTSD Webinars: we're not meeting what the
State and Federal Government have planned.
DTSD Webinars: you know, for how we need to be, including our kids in special education.
And
DTSD Webinars: So I, you know, and I'm not qualified to tell you this. Because I'm a parent. I don't work in education. I don't know about construction.
There's a very common saying that if you know one kid with autism well, you know one kid with autism, because it's
DTSD Webinars: so, it means so many different things. So you know I can't give you advice on what our new building Will should look like, or how we need to think about these, but I would hope that you would go out and ask some professionals who can help us to, you know, design a new 100 million
DTSD Webinars: dollar building that's going to make it possible to include our kids in special education programs.
DTSD Webinars: So I did go on the tour. And I saw, this is the second time I saw the presentation today because I went on the tour also. And
DTSD Webinars: you know, we can all see these stairs. They're
DTSD Webinars: they're an obstacle to many kids. Education, because what you're looking at is a visible disability. There are also many, many children in our schools that have invisible disabilities. That means you see them. They look like normal kid to you.
DTSD Webinars: but they often have diagnosed disabilities you don't know anything about. And I asked architect at the meeting like, who do you consult for things like, you know, fluorescent lighting is a big problem for many people with special educate with, I'm sorry. Sensory processing disorder like a fluorescent light, is extremely disruptive to people with that disorder.
DTSD Webinars: And I asked him things about hand dryers and toilets. How do you
DTSD Webinars: choose these type of things? Because those are things that affect children with invisible disabilities. And he didn't really understand that. That was the question I was asking.
DTSD Webinars: you know.
DTSD Webinars: so like I get concerned that
DTSD Webinars: you know
DTSD Webinars: the ad a requirements are bare bones minimum what we need to follow, and they often are more about things like visible disabilities. But
DTSD Webinars: could you please stop with the clicking?
DTSD Webinars: So one thing.
DTSD Webinars: the the legislation that's coming from Federal government. One thing is these places that are called outside placements. They're very unrestricted, currently. And
DTSD Webinars: some of the places where we feel like we can't meet our kids needs. So we send them to an outside placement. You know
DTSD Webinars: they're not regulated now, but there's work federal legislation in the work to prevent institutional child abuse. We may see in the future some of those places close down because there's going to be more oversight of.
DTSD Webinars: And then I saw the presentation today. You know, he's talking about clustering the grade levels. The second grade, the third grade, fifth grade, and how some of them are separated.
DTSD Webinars: But what you could also see. The green squares were the special education areas, and they were segregated. Sorry the greens were segregated in little pockets. So maybe that's what we want.
DTSD Webinars: 30 s. Okay, thank you. But maybe it's not going to be the most inclusive way, because I read the Special Education plan.
DTSD Webinars: that we are required to submit. And one thing I understand from that is like the State government doesn't want you to put all the special education kids like over here. They're supposed to be integrated physically with all the other kids. So thinking about where you put those little green squares. It's like when you play monopoly, and you have little hotels that you know we need to be inclusive.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you, Dr. Sloppy.
DTSD Webinars: We also have John Miller.
DTSD Webinars: Hi, John, Hello!
So we don't say our address anymore.
DTSD Webinars: Have it not to say it. Thank you for mentioning special education. I was in special education myself.
K. Through 12 Dairy township.
DTSD Webinars: and I think that's something to consider. Certainly.
DTSD Webinars: the point I wanted to make about the building, and the opportunity would be to get
kids that
DTSD Webinars: or have natural proclivities for engineering construction design.
And I think there's an opportunity to involve them with the curriculum.
DTSD Webinars: Somehow, I don't know. I would just, I think, especially well, the younger ones might surprise you with some of the stuff they come up with
DTSD Webinars: seriously. But the older kids as well that are knocking on the door college, I think there's a lot of real learning opportunities
and
DTSD Webinars: the full planning of the campuses, you know, from a comprehensive standpoint, could could carry on beyond this project. Thank you.
thank you, Mr. Miller.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Anyone else in the room that wanted to comment.
DTSD Webinars: Not at this time. Okay.
Mr. Ayella. Anybody
DTSD Webinars: participating virtually that would like to comment.
DTSD Webinars: There are no, there are no virtual hands raised at this time.
Okay, thank you very much. Then we'll we'll move on
DTSD Webinars: to agenda. Item 2D. Ms. Carpel, do you have a community correspondence report. I do thank you. For the month of October the district received 2 community correspondence submissions, comments, and questions from this month include feedback about the community night for the elementary school project and information about district property use.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you. Miss Carpel.
DTSD Webinars: moving on to agenda. Item 2D. We had 2 standing committee meetings today
DTSD Webinars: the Curriculum Council met and the Policy Committee met. Dr. Cronin. Do you have a curriculum report? I do thank you. 3. So we did welcome today 2 new citizen advisors, Cynthia Lou and Michelle Trostle. I believe they both have our beginning two-year terms
DTSD Webinars: for our new business. We were we converted, or we were requested to convert the high school, accounting to course
DTSD Webinars: to be the hack principles of financial accounting, one and 2, each being a semester long and offering
DTSD Webinars: high school students 2 college credits each, and this is very similar to what was instituted 2 years ago, which was the hack intro to business course, which was one semester that students could take as well. The hack Harrisburg Area Community College will provide online books and the syllabus, and they will also use the canvas platform that our students are already familiar with.
DTSD Webinars: The expected price is $250 per credit, which is a dual enrollment discount
DTSD Webinars: as compared to if you were a post high school student.
DTSD Webinars: So this is a request to revise that course, and it will be on the agenda in 30 days, and then at the next curriculum Council meeting will review it, and it'll come to the board meeting after that. So this, mister? Mr. G. Because Mr. Gustantino has worked with hack to become certified to be able to teach this at the college level, and he presented the course. And once again, this will give our high school students college credits here in
DTSD Webinars: in the building without having to leave. So that was very good. And then Mr. Schuman gave Mr. Dr. Schuman sorry, gave a an update that the Middle School librarians are currently reviewing
DTSD Webinars: 2 recently donated books. One was the Everybody book, and then the other was the ABC's of Lgbtq. Plus currently the he believes the recommendation that they will be that
DTSD Webinars: the librarians may want to keep them in guidance, because they may be more appropriate for parents, but that hasn't really been determined yet. Hopefully they will be allowed in the library, and our next meeting will be on December eleventh of
DTSD Webinars: Yeah, December eleventh, and that was my last meeting as curriculum curriculum chair. So I want to thank everyone who's been serving on that committee.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you. Dr. Cohen Lindsay. We are back.
Thank you. Any board members have any questions.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you, Dr. Cronin. Just a quick question. This is Eric Schmidt, the accounting classes that will be college classes. Will they also have
DTSD Webinars: the non-college accounting classes.
DTSD Webinars: No, this is a course revision, so it will all of accounting 2. So accounting, one stays the same.
DTSD Webinars: all of accounting 2 will now be a 2 semester college offering, accounting one and counting 2.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, but both are college
DTSD Webinars: Charlotte college level. He did say that the curriculum was very similar, although the college the
DTSD Webinars: principles of financial accounting. One will start with some of the basics of accounting one as a kind of a review, but it will go more in depth and cover a lot more material even beyond what our current accounting 2 does. It seems like it'll be an in
DTSD Webinars: reasonably intensive without being overly challenging, so that students should be able to fit into that course, and he also said that most
DTSD Webinars: he offers 3 introductory accounting courses right now accounting one, and it funnels down, accounting 2 to only 2 sections, which that will also be the case with this, which is usually students who are more serious about continuing, accounting.
DTSD Webinars: accounting 3 into accounting 2 and then accounting 3, and I don't know if accounting 3 will eventually be revised also. But the the idea is that they're they're trying to beep up the business curriculum.
That's cool. Yay, thank you. Mr. Bennett. You have a policy report. Also.
We'll take a look at some volumes for the revision of you today.
DTSD Webinars: We look at the black athletic form of policies.
Okay version. Oh, that would be on that. That's good.
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awkward. So that that policy is what that family
DTSD Webinars: that's the main thing.
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DTSD Webinars: number and Syrian policy. Mr. Bennett, excuse me. Could you turn your microphone on so those can hear? Thank you. Apologize. I thought I had it on.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, we're we're able to
DTSD Webinars: review the entire 900 series policies kind of as a
consent agenda. There was no changes
DTSD Webinars: made, any of those they were just reviewed for its ongoing review, and our next menu will be February twelfth, 2,024.
Thank you, Mr. Bennett. Any questions or any distance from any other committee members.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thanks. Again, Mr. Bennett. moving on to agenda. Item 2 F. Student representatives report
DTSD Webinars: representatives, Colorasi.
DTSD Webinars: Saad and Barto. Do you have a report.
DTSD Webinars: Yes, we do. Sorry. Yes, we do. This is Natalie Colorassi.
DTSD Webinars: and I'll be speaking about the High School on November third. Hershey High School's Trojan Buddies Club hosted a special Olympics event throughout the school day. Athletes repaired with Trojan Buddies club members as they completed different activities, challenges and fun games. On Thursday, November second, Hershey High School boys. Soccer won their third consecutive district 3 title after 2. Overtimes the boys won in penalty kicks. Hannah Bouday had 2 incredible saves, and Cole Goodman scored the winning penalty kick.
DTSD Webinars: The boys will hope the boys will host their first round of state playoffs at home tomorrow at 6 PM. On the 3 22 field
DTSD Webinars: Hershey High School Girls. Field hockey will also be playing in the first round of the State, PI. Double a championships for the third year in a row tomorrow
DTSD Webinars: congrats the boys and girls cross-country teams for placing fourth and fifth at districts. Last week
DTSD Webinars: they raced at the PI. Double a State Championship. On Saturday, Vinay Roman, placed eleventh overall, earning himself a state medal, and the boys as a team also placed eleventh.
DTSD Webinars: On October 20 sixth, Key Club held a Trunk Retreat Event in the Bus Corral. All proceeds go towards their walk for clean water goal to fund water wells in the kingdom of East Watini.
DTSD Webinars: On October 20 fifth, Hershey bands and orchestra held their fall concert in the auditorium, stay tuned for the upcoming Christmas and winter shows this. Wednesday. Hhs. Athletics is hosting signing day, where 10 High School athletes signed their letters of intent to continue their academic and athletic careers at various universities.
DTSD Webinars: The new batch of George and 10 students were also announced, which, as we mentioned at the last meeting, are nominated by teachers who nominate students who are shining particularly in their classes.
DTSD Webinars: They are as follows, Owen Andrews, Ava Ball, Eamonn, Callahan, Danica, Christman, Sean, Elliot, David Sis, Aidan Peters, Eva Rabago, Ariana, Twonquin, and Taylor Bolaski.
DTSD Webinars: Last week students at the Ecc. Learned about the life cycle of a pumpkin and the change of the seasons. They finished the activity by painting pumpkins and using their newly learned skills to describe their masterpieces
DTSD Webinars: on Halloween, seventh graders on team. Maria enjoyed a fun day. At the Middle School library, going through their latest routes and swapping book recommendations.
DTSD Webinars: Each middle school class also participated in a short story contest and winners were decided by the class, and each winner was encouraged to continue their stories.
DTSD Webinars: Good evening. I'm Lucy. I'm gonna take my time to talk about Link Crew Seminar. I had the opportunity to be a part of on November second. So through Link Crew, just a quick overview. If you're not familiar with it, it's a part of a bigger project called Boomerang, and it's in
DTSD Webinars: include it's intended to aid the transition from middle school to high school. So we meet with our each crew leaders assigned a small group of freshmen, and we get the opportunity to meet with them once a week on Wednesday, during our community period time, and we also lead programs, such as Bridge Day, which kind of bridge that gap
DTSD Webinars: erez agmoni. So we had our main advisors, Mr. Kraus, Miss Clauser, Mr. Dietz, and this Rosensteel they collaborated with Boomerang, and we had someone from Boomerang Kevin Ozark. He goes by Ko. And he came to lead this seminar. So there are 8 different schools, and roughly, 200 people attended this, and it happened in our high school gym, and it was really neat. We got to learn more about the
DTSD Webinars: initiative as a whole and learn more leadership skills and ways to interact with your freshmen, which can sometimes be a little tricky to get them to open up to you. So we learned about starting small in order to build deeper connections with the kids. And this was an all day activity where we were fully immersed with kids from other schools to complete different activities.
DTSD Webinars: The whole point of it was that no 2 Hershey kids were together. So I spent my day with 3 other kids from 3 different high schools. So it was really interesting to hear what their link crew situation looks like at their schools, and I will say Hershey came out on top. And we interact with our freshmen a lot more than other schools which just helps people those connections. So I was glad to have received this opportunity to attend that. Thank you.
Okay, that it
DTSD Webinars: okay, thank you very much.
We appreciate your being here, and we appreciate your report
moving on to agenda. Item 2. G recognition of club name change, Dr. Winslow.
DTSD Webinars: I'm just sitting over here all like
DTSD Webinars: Lucy, educating everybody on that was so cool she looked out that way, and that was awesome. Lucy.
DTSD Webinars: club, change
DTSD Webinars: club name, change the following high school student, club name change is recognized. No limited service contract is associated with this club. The club currently has a student activity account that we updated to reflect the name. Change. They are changing from the Learning Commons Council to the Library Advisory Board.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you. Dr. Winslow. moving on to agenda. Item 2 H.
The listed items are on the anticipated November twentieth, 2,023 board of directors meeting agenda.
DTSD Webinars: It's up on the screen right there.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you, Sarah.
DTSD Webinars: moving on to agenda. Item 3. There is no unfinished business.
DTSD Webinars: Agenda. Item 4. The consent agenda contains routinely adopted items and items that normally do not require public deliberations on the part of the board.
A board member may pull items which will then be discussed and voted on separately.
DTSD Webinars: We have a motion to approve the consent. Agenda items as listed so moved Kathy Sicker, second Maria Mummy.
DTSD Webinars: is there any discussion?
DTSD Webinars: This is a standard voice vote. All those in favor, please say aye, aye, any opposed? No. thank you. The consent. Agenda passes.
DTSD Webinars: Moving on to agenda. Item 5. New business.
5. A.
DTSD Webinars: The Aia Architect contract agreement. Dr. Winslow. The Administration recommends the approval of the Aia document B. 101, 2,017, with Crabtree, Warba, and associates for the Elementary School Project
DTSD Webinars: have a motion to approve the contract agreement so moved Lindsey Kuk.
DTSD Webinars: second Lindsey Drew.
DTSD Webinars: Is there any discussion? Mr. Singer? This is Lindsay Drew, I just wanted to add, for clarification for the public. This is not an a new agreement or an add on to what's already been done. We went through the interview and selection process earlier this year. This is just the formalized agreement that Crabtree Robot has been working through with us without that in place. So, thanks to them and our business office and administration and the legal team around that, it just took
DTSD Webinars: that time. But that's what this is okay. Thank you for that clarification. Mr.
Is there any other discussion?
DTSD Webinars: This is standard voice. Vote all those in favor, please say, aye, aye, any opposed. No.
DTSD Webinars: Okay. The motion carries moving on to agenda. Item 5 b. Personnel resignations. Dr. Winslow. The Administration recommends the approval of the personnel. Resignations
DTSD Webinars: may have a motion to approve the personnel resignations. So moved, Lindsey drew second. Donna Cronin. Is there any discussion?
DTSD Webinars: This is a standard voice. Vote all those in favor, please say, aye, aye, any opposed? No.
DTSD Webinars: the motion is approved. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Moving on to agenda. Item 5 c. Personnel. General Dr. Winslow. The Administration recommends the approval of the list of personnel and recognition of any listed transfers.
DTSD Webinars: We have a motion to approve the listed personnel and recognition of any listed transfers so moved. Lindsey Cox, second Maria. Mammy.
DTSD Webinars: is there any discussion?
DTSD Webinars: This is a standard voice. Vote all those in favor, please say aye, aye, any opposed? No.
DTSD Webinars: thank you. The motion carries
DTSD Webinars: moving on to agenda. Item 6. Delegate reports
DTSD Webinars: the capital area. Intermediate unit report is attached. Dr. Cook, do you have anything to add? Yeah, just one thing. There was one thing that was highlighted at the Cai you meeting. It's the opening of Dolly Parton's Imagination Library in Dauphin and Perry counties.
DTSD Webinars: All children, birth to age 5 are eligible to participate. The program is founded on the idea that early access to books in the home is the most critical factor in a child's success. So children would receive. If if they sign up which again, all children birth to 5 are eligible, they will receive one free book each month. So if we haven't done so already, maybe that's information. While it doesn't apply to our school age children information that we can distribute.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you.
DTSD Webinars: The Pennsylvania School Boards Association report is attached. Dr. Cronin, do you have anything to add? No, it just says as submitted. Thank you, miss. What? Just as submitted.
Thank you. Moving on to agenda. Item 7. Special reports.
Are there any board members who would like to give a report
I would like to give a report. Yeah.
DTSD Webinars: this is Kathy Sicker. a School Board member is a public. So servant who volunteers their time and energy to make the community and public school system better.
DTSD Webinars: Recently someone created mailers to abuse one of my fellow colleagues and someone I consider a friend. Lindsay drew
DTSD Webinars: what was done to Lindsay drew anything negative.
DTSD Webinars: It's positive it just doesn't sound like a board member. Report to me.
It's important.
DTSD Webinars: We're out.
DTSD Webinars: What was done to Lindsey Drew with the recent mailer is a whole new level of harm.
DTSD Webinars: accusing someone of hurting and sexualizing children in this environment. Will people? We'll find any reason to hurt someone is unthinkable. Lindsay Drew does not deserve this.
DTSD Webinars: She has been one of the hardest working school board directors in this district.
DTSD Webinars: and I have had the pleasure of working with her for the past 6 years. She is prepared, smart, thoughtful, and always caring about kids, teachers, taxpayers, parents and the community.
DTSD Webinars: 6 School Board members will be sworn in on December fourth, creating a new board dynamic. What I wish for the new Board is peace and the ability to work together, to continue to make this the best school district possible.
DTSD Webinars: Perhaps this new board can learn from the mistakes that we have made, and watch what we have done right, and watch what we have done wrong.
DTSD Webinars: Always remember that we are the leaders for this district and the tone stars at the top.
DTSD Webinars: We're here for the students and the parents and the guardians, and the community and the taxpayers in the town, and I wish the new board. Well.
DTSD Webinars: the success means the success for our public school system, and in turn means the success for the next generation of our children.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Help me understand?
DTSD Webinars: Thank you, Mr. Secretary, do any other Board members have a report.
DTSD Webinars: hey? Dr. Winslow, do you have a super tennis report?
DTSD Webinars: I do not this evening. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Okay. Moving on to agenda. Item 7 C. Board. President's report, I do not have a report moving on to agenda. Item 8 recognition of citizens.
This is an opportunity for residents and taxpayers to address the Board on matters related to the agenda
DTSD Webinars: or matters of district governance, not on the agenda. Those the speaker asked to file the same guidelines outlined at the initial public comment portion of our meeting.
DTSD Webinars: This is a reminder that public comment is not a forum for personal attacks, antagonistic behavior, or harassment.
Please be advised that you are accountable for any legal ramifications and liability that results from statements that misrepresent the truth
DTSD Webinars: to fame individuals or disclose personal information that is not a public concern. I'll ask board treasurer, Mr. Rizzo, to please keep time.
Why don't we start online this time? Virtually.
DTSD Webinars: Mr. Ayelle, is there anyone virtually who would like to comment?
DTSD Webinars: Currently, there are no virtual hands raised.
DTSD Webinars: just one just raise their hand. Now.
DTSD Webinars: Tracy Brown, you have been given permission to speak. Please unmute
when ready.
Tracy Brown: Thank you. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can
Tracy Brown: thank you.
Tracy Brown: Tracy Brown?
Tracy Brown: I just want to say it's pretty much a universal consensus that any one who hurts a child is one of the lowest forms of low in society. That's why I found it exceptionally disturbing
Tracy Brown: to see one of your colleagues on the School Board characterized as someone who harms children via a widely distributed, libelous mailer. Not only was it characterized that she harmed children.
Tracy Brown: but there were other citizens 1 min, please.
DTSD Webinars: This is the comment period
DTSD Webinars: for items that were on the agenda or for matters related
DTSD Webinars: to district governance. Public
DTSD Webinars: public comment related to 2 things.
DTSD Webinars: items
Tracy Brown: that was first, public comment, wasn't it.
Excuse me.
Tracy Brown: was that first public comment that it was related to the agenda.
DTSD Webinars: I'll just review the statement again. This is an opportunity for residents and taxpayers to address the Board on matters related to the agenda
DTSD Webinars: or matters of district governance, not on the agenda.
DTSD Webinars: Those who speak to us, speaker has to follow the same guidelines outlined in the initial public comment portion of the meeting.
So
DTSD Webinars: it's not.
This does not relate to district governance
DTSD Webinars: entertain comments from random comments just popping up without being recognized.
DTSD Webinars: So that's
DTSD Webinars: that's the standing. So if you have other comments not related to the election.
DTSD Webinars: this is a public. This is a board meeting, a business meeting. This is not a platform for
politics or
DTSD Webinars: reviewing what's going on with the election. So
Tracy Brown: no, this isn't. This isn't politics.
Tracy Brown: This is basically, you know, this is somebody who sits on the board right, and her reputation has the right to be defended as somebody who is a public servant.
DTSD Webinars: I
I agree.
DTSD Webinars: Are you done with your comment, then?
Tracy Brown: Well am I? Am I being shut down from my comment? Or is there another opportunity to speak?
DTSD Webinars: I'm just gonna consult with our solicitor for a moment.
DTSD Webinars: You know. I don't want to hear any more comments while we're trying to conduct business here. If you can't keep quiet, please leave the room.
DTSD Webinars: Okay.
DTSD Webinars: hey? We're not going to entertain tonight. Comments related to
DTSD Webinars: individuals who may be running for election.
DTSD Webinars: It does not have to do with district governance. And
So if that's what your comment
DTSD Webinars: is about, ma'am? Then yes, I would ask you to to not continue
Tracy Brown: alright. Well, I would just like to just share that I do believe that everybody on that board you know, is is good representation. And that you were there for the children. I don't see anybody who serves as
Tracy Brown: Somebody deserving of
Tracy Brown: of what happened this past week. So that applies to all of you. Not just people running for office.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Mr. Hale. Anyone else online?
DTSD Webinars: Yes, Sarah Smith, that you have been given permission to speak. Please unmute when ready.
Sarah Smith: Yes, hi, thank you. There was mentioned of an Lgbtq book that was donated. Who donated the book and who approves? Those types of books coming into the library?
DTSD Webinars: Yeah, that's a question you should probably direct
DTSD Webinars: to the elementary school, or maybe Dr. Whimskill could give you guidance.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, Doctor Winslow will follow up on that for you.
Sarah Smith: Okay, yeah, that's just extremely concerning to many parents in the district as it's creating a lot of unnecessary confusion with children.
Sarah Smith: And there's been many studies, including the Vanderbilt University Medical Center study found that 83% of Lgbtq individuals reported going through adverse childhood experiences such as sexual and emotional abuse and worse
Sarah Smith: mental health as adults when compared to their heterosexual peers. So what a lot of people aren't seeing is that a lot of these people that are struggling with Lgbtq have a history, unfortunately of abuse in their family, which is so saddening. And so they're seeking
Sarah Smith: something to heal those wounds, and often that is, exploring sex with the same partner transitioning. And it's creating detrimental effects.
Sarah Smith: in these children. It's absolutely heartbreaking. They're trying to heal these wounds with transitioning to a different gender. And it's it's an identity crisis. And this is very concerning to parents it. If kids are just able to access these
Sarah Smith: types of books, it's creating unnecessary confusion, it's it. It needs to be addressed. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you.
Sarah Smith: And I also encourage you all to read about Sophia Galvin. She transition to a man, and it did not fix her problems. So that's just one example of among many. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Could those in the audience please have the respect to
just try to keep silent. Hmm.
DTSD Webinars: Mr. Ayella. Anyone else online who would like to comment
at this time there are no additional hands raised.
DTSD Webinars: Okay.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Are there any residents or taxpayers in the room who would like to comment? There are Sue Myers.
you're done. Okay.
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DTSD Webinars: Marlene Kanuck.
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DTSD Webinars: I said. I said. I'm trying to figure out what I can say and what I can't say. because I have to edit my comments as your ruling.
DTSD Webinars: but I can start it out
DTSD Webinars: and talk about an issue that's going through a lot of school districts. And that's book Banning.
My name is Marlene Cannock. I've lived here in Dairy Township since 2,003.
DTSD Webinars: I trust Lindsay Drew has previously led this board, and is still serving on this board.
DTSD Webinars: I moved to Dairy Township in 2,003, because, as a Pde. Employee department of education.
DTSD Webinars: I was at the time an educating education administrator in the division of safe schools and student assistance. As part of my 26 years at Pd.
DTSD Webinars: I reviewed those programs here in Derry township. and probably a hundred or more other districts in the State.
DTSD Webinars: I know that Dairy Township was one of the best. I knew that Dairy Township was one of the best school districts in this area.
DTSD Webinars: and they protected and treated all students regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender identity. Equally and fairly.
DTSD Webinars: I know that school districts have not received enough money from the Commonwealth to keep up the rising cost to employ that the best educators, counselors, and administrators.
DTSD Webinars: but my tax dollars are well spent in this district because they do just that. Before I assume my position in 1989 at Pd, I taught biology, ecology, chemistry, and physics for almost 16 years.
DTSD Webinars: and substituted before that for 2 years.
DTSD Webinars: I know my curriculum was open to any parent who wished to come in and look at it. This is true with all public schools in Pennsylvania, and here in Dairy township, as it has always been.
If a parent wanted their child to opt out of a particular lesson or unit. They had the right. as one parent did when I taught evolution. Every parent has the right in a public school.
DTSD Webinars: but a group of parents do not have the right to take out of the curriculum for every parent's child.
DTSD Webinars: In 16 years of teaching. I was never harassed by a parent who was coached by members of an organization to do so, who put words in their parents mouth, and encouraged them to go after a teacher.
DTSD Webinars: Such an organization exists today, and they are moving quickly to take over school boards in this district and in others in Central Pennsylvania.
DTSD Webinars: I read the diary of Anne Frank. When I was in school. I was glad I had. I had that story that told me what it was like for a young, pre-da adolescent girl to hide with her family from Nazi's Gestapo.
DTSD Webinars: a young girl who later died in Auschwitz. Why?
DTSD Webinars: Because my own mother left Nazi, occupied Czechoslovakia in 1,989,
DTSD Webinars: later to be followed by the Gestapo to Genoa, Italy.
Her father, my grandfather, was captured by the Gestapo and sent to a labor camp
DTSD Webinars: his crime hiding Jewish friends, friends that perished.
DTSD Webinars: I knew from that book what could happen in a country, and what can happen in other countries, this and others?
Because it almost happened to my mother this book and others has been banned in in schools by this group that I had mentioned before.
DTSD Webinars: such as Central Bucks School District.
DTSD Webinars: This is what I is this what we want the future to look like in Dairy township school district. I have no problem if a parent does not want their child to read a certain book, but they do not.
DTSD Webinars: do not have the right to ban my grandchildren from reading that book.
DTSD Webinars: I trust Lindsay grew drove. And
DTSD Webinars: yeah, I'm trying to go through these, because at the end of this is, it's changing to the mailer that that insinuated a lot of stuff that was not fair to her.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, excuse me, just 1 min. We need to stop the comments on candidates. I can. I can move on. Thank you.
We're direct.
She's absorbed.
DTSD Webinars: I believe the group that is present. And in Pennsylvania now is the greatest threat to education in the United States since segregation in this country.
DTSD Webinars: I want a school board that does not believe in banning books will protect teachers from harassment, and most of all, that all children, regardless of who they are. feel safe and protected in this district as they have in the past. I thank Lindsay for her leadership on this board. I thank the Board, the Administration, and the teachers in this district.
Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Any anybody else like to comment. Yes, we have Julie Goalsby.
DTSD Webinars: Hi! I'm Julie Goolsby. I am the proud parent of 2 elementary school children, and like the last person, and I'm and struggling to quickly edit on my feet.
so I will say this.
DTSD Webinars: I want to encourage everyone here, especially those in front of me. to abide by the cocoa principals and the Trojan way.
DTSD Webinars: Hate lies, and bullying have no place in our community.
DTSD Webinars: Don't allow outside forces to divide us.
Don't stoop to their level.
DTSD Webinars: Don't set an example.
That is a negative one for our next generation. You have the opportunity to stand up.
DTSD Webinars: You have the opportunity to set a good example. Dr. Cook has done so. This weekend.
I encourage all of you to follow her lead.
DTSD Webinars: because otherwise what has happened to one of your colleagues
DTSD Webinars: could easily happen to you. and it shouldn't to anyone who has the time
DTSD Webinars: or takes the time and energy to volunteer in our community if you let them win. our children lose. Thank you. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: This is Ag.
DTSD Webinars: We also have Patrick Mcdonald. You might as well skip.
Okay.
DTSD Webinars: anybody else. Yeah, I'm not done if you want one.
DTSD Webinars: We have Kimberly zuck.
DTSD Webinars: Awesome! My wife is red.
DTSD Webinars: and where do I go like
DTSD Webinars: you have to? You're out of water, please.
DTSD Webinars: They threatened my wife
and my kids.
DTSD Webinars: Where do I go?
DTSD Webinars: If not here? Where do I go?
DTSD Webinars: In a representative democracy?
Okay.
DTSD Webinars: go ahead every other time people can. I, too, need to
change
DTSD Webinars: my my comments
DTSD Webinars: every other meeting people can speak. My comments were going to ask you guys to speak up
DTSD Webinars: because it's the right thing to do.
DTSD Webinars: because you know what happened.
DTSD Webinars: I have a sixth and an eighth grader.
DTSD Webinars: I have no problem with either of my children reading the book that they've spoken about.
DTSD Webinars: It's age appropriate about topics
DTSD Webinars: that affect many of our children. If you think every gay or trans child or adult
DTSD Webinars: was abused. You guys are living under rocks. you are.
DTSD Webinars: You're bigots, that's what you are. If you think every gay or trans child has been abused.
These children need books that represent themselves.
DTSD Webinars: these children, several of our children in our schools are going to be kicked out of their homes. If they let their parents know who they are.
DTSD Webinars: they need to know they are not alone. and I am thankful that there are books like that. My daughter has 2 gay friends in sixth grade.
DTSD Webinars: Their parents know they were not abused.
DTSD Webinars: they just accept them for who they are. But there are so many children out there who do not.
DTSD Webinars: and they need books in the school, so they know they are not alone.
DTSD Webinars: So thank you, Lindsay, and everyone else who approved this book. not to sexualized children.
DTSD Webinars: but to help children who are going to be kicked out of their homes and possibly end up with fates like this young woman.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Age. Anyone else? Yes, we have, Ashley Kimaziyong. Sorry if I Miss Prna pronounced that
DTSD Webinars: like you did a great job actually
DTSD Webinars: As everyone before me, I came with one specific topic to speak on. So it's point of clarity. Just for myself moving forward. I would wondering if someone could explain to me how one taxpayers bleeps on the origin of homosexuality which we just were allowed to listen to. Has anything more to do with district governance as comment regarding the character assassination of one of the School Board members by an organization representing another current School Board member. Just that, I understand, for moving forward.
DTSD Webinars: Could you repeat the question, please?
DTSD Webinars: We'll go ahead and make your comment, please.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you. I appreciate that
DTSD Webinars: my name is Ashley Chemis Young. I'm a parent to a middle and high school student in the district, and Lindsey Drew is my best friend.
DTSD Webinars: I'm speaking here tonight, and my role is both that may be biased. But I'm not standing here in defense of Lynch's voting record.
DTSD Webinars: She's more than capable of doing that on her own. Instead, I find myself here in defense of her character, and that is a subject of which I'm uniquely qualified to speak.
DTSD Webinars: That was gives a part about how we we all receive these mailers.
DTSD Webinars: blinding Lindsay's character.
not supporting
DTSD Webinars: one cast of candidates.
DTSD Webinars: Lindsay is known to my children as Miss Lindsay, known to her nephews as Auntie Lulu, and to her son her favorite title, Mom.
DTSD Webinars: not only with information included. Excuse me 1 min, please please try to avoid talking about candidates or the election.
DTSD Webinars: Okay? In summary. Then, I suppose what I will say is
DTSD Webinars: again, as as Mrs. Zuck just said, I would expect the School Board as an organization as an entity to speak out on
DTSD Webinars: such egregious character. Assassinations of any of us exist existing members as this is a volunteer organization, and I think that everyone who
DTSD Webinars: is serving here I'm going to give the benefit for the doubt and suggest that they are here because they have the best interests of our children at heart.
DTSD Webinars: And
DTSD Webinars: I'm appalled and ashamed that no one, the Board publicly has not stated their defense of one of their own tonight. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Memphis.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Anyone else? Yes, we have Vicky Feinstein.
See
DTSD Webinars: sadly, I need to put my glasses on.
DTSD Webinars: My name is Vicky Feinstein. I've stood before this board before I'm an educator. I'm a reading specialist. I've been a child's librarian in a public library, and in schools.
DTSD Webinars: I know the process that professionals use to purchase books, and I've done it for over 30 years.
DTSD Webinars: I'm here to night for 2 reasons, one of which, apparently I can't discuss. But first, because of Donna Cronan's recent Shina light column
DTSD Webinars: of the many, we gotta avoid personal attacks. It's not a personal attack. Okay, continue. But of the many accounts she wrote a column and identified herself as a director of the Dairy Township School district. This is Dairy township school district business. Am I right.
DTSD Webinars: attorney solicitor?
DTSD Webinars: Am I right? Yeah. Can I continue
DTSD Webinars: accomplishments she has had? She chose to focus on the book, seeing gender by Iris Gotley.
DTSD Webinars: She writes how she voted to move it, IE. Banit from the middle school library, but luckily she wasn't successful. Cronin claims that her desire to ban this book from the Middle School Library isn't an Anti-lgbtq issue.
Okay?
DTSD Webinars: But I don't consider that Cronin, or any director of the School Board has the professional knowledge to recommend and or purchase LGTB. TQ. Books for any of the school libraries, and I know they have, because I was here at a meeting when they did it.
DTSD Webinars: The fact that they did this
DTSD Webinars: and provided lists of their own personally recommended titles to the district is merely a way of assuring that books acceptable to them are the only ones on the shelf, and clearly seeing gender isn't on their lists.
DTSD Webinars: Using this book as a political platform to evoke emotion among voters in both of these cases is just plain wrong. Our dairy township, school district librarians are professionals who read book reviews, studies, and research when they choose titles for their shelves, and often they actually read the book. I've said it before.
DTSD Webinars: Let them do their jobs.
DTSD Webinars: November is transgender awareness month. It seems like the perfect time to shine. A different kind of light on those 2 pages of this important book.
DTSD Webinars: Studies show that Lgbtq youth are often kicked out of their homes or abandoned, due to their sexual and or gender identities.
DTSD Webinars: 55% of those in a study in a Trevor project. Report said that they ran away because of abuse they suffered at home due to their identities. The rates are even higher for transgender and nonbinary youth.
DTSD Webinars: You may wonder how this is connected to the 2 pages that discuss sex work and seeing gender. Sorry, girls, let me make this connection for you. There's a term you need to know. That term is survival sex. It's in Gottlieb's book.
DTSD Webinars: Tiffany Graham, Dean of the University of South Dakota Law School gave a Ted talk on the connection between youth, homelessness, and survival sex.
DTSD Webinars: In her Ted Talk we learn of Andy, a queer 14 year old, who, with one suicide attempt behind him, ran away from his oppressively abusive home with no money, food, or shelter.
DTSD Webinars: Out of desperation he began trading sex for those things.
DTSD Webinars: This is an example of survival sex.
DTSD Webinars: Graham says that Andy's situation is not unusual, and children, as early as age 11 have resorted to it.
DTSD Webinars: The statistics are grim.
DTSD Webinars: Lgbtq. Youth between the ages of 10 and 25 are 70% more likely to engage in survival sex due to homelessness. 80%. Of homeless, transgender youths are more likely to engage in it.
DTSD Webinars: Homelessness is a primary driver for Lgbtq teens turning to sex for survival.
DTSD Webinars: This is why there are 2 pages out of 208 pages devoted to sex work in this book. When Gottlib says sex work isn't bad, she wants kids to know that this is a real possibility, but tries not to shame this already vulnerable
DTSD Webinars: population. Homeless Lgbtq. Youth in this situation literally have no other way to survive.
DTSD Webinars: If you truly do want to support the Lgbtq community, turn your attention to how you can help them, so that survival sex doesn't have to be the reality. Educate our own community about the dire situation that homelessness can mean for an Lgbtq child.
DTSD Webinars: push for legislation, to support children, for these
DTSD Webinars: to provide support for these children, help develop a parent library to help parents understand how to support their children. This is how your child centered. Rhetoric can really make a difference.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Anyone else would like to comment. Yes, we have. Deanna slammens.
DTSD Webinars: Good evening, everybody. My name is Deanna Slammons. I'm the former curriculum Supervisor at Milton Hershey School for social and Emotional Learning, Pre. K. Through tho twelfth grade.
DTSD Webinars: I wrote curriculum for students who lived at Milton Hershey School. I am a former graduate of Milton Hershey School. I now live in the community.
DTSD Webinars: I just wanted to address and represent the conservative voice in the room. I can see that I'm a minority.
DTSD Webinars: not literally, but yes, literally as well.
DTSD Webinars: And I also the reason that I stood up to speak. I wasn't planning on speaking. I was planning on listening. But it is difficult for me
DTSD Webinars: to listen to conversation. That's not hopeful.
that's fear, based
DTSD Webinars: that focuses on students who could end up homeless or dead because of their sexual orientation
DTSD Webinars: rather than focusing on how we can help students who are struggling in this area.
DTSD Webinars: I was. I attended the board meeting where this book was approved. I read the entire book in its entirety. I addressed my concerns for the book
DTSD Webinars: primarily, because there were graphics of top surgery recovery in the book that I think could be scarring to children who are in middle school.
DTSD Webinars: I also thought that
DTSD Webinars: it was inappropriate to also lump the African American male experience journey with the police and an African American woman's call to arms or to action
DTSD Webinars: within the book. It muddied the waters a lot.
DTSD Webinars: and so I saw the book as being extremely one sided in wanting to push forth several agendas, and not just the LGBT. Q.
DTSD Webinars: And so, if we are, if our goal is to assist students who are struggling in this area. I think we need to be singly focused
DTSD Webinars: about what it is that we're showing our students not throwing and lumping in many, many directives and initiatives into one book, because we can under one title and say that this is appropriate for students a black males. Police experience is very different than an Lgbtq homeless experience with sex work. But the author lumped it all in together, and I took offense to that, having an African American son.
DTSD Webinars: and having African-american males in my family.
DTSD Webinars: That was one of the reasons I struggled with the book as an 11 year old or a 12 year old. How do you wrestle with a social issue that has to do with violence against black males, with police being an advocate as an African American woman to a cause like this
DTSD Webinars: as well as discussing top surgery and sex work in a book. It's very confusing for me, as an adult, to rationalize and to string all of it together. I did not think that it was appropriate for middle school kids to have access to a book that opened up many, many very complicated social topics that America has been wrestling with for hundreds of years.
DTSD Webinars: So my recommendation as a member of of a parent on the committee. I spoke similar to this, but I was at home. Let's move this to high school. It was not a book ban
DTSD Webinars: banned from middle school. Isn't that banning from a district? It's banning from a building so that we can be aged, appropriate.
DTSD Webinars: Again, I feel like I have the qualifications for social, emotional learning.
DTSD Webinars: I grew up in distressed environments. I grew up at Milton, Hershey School. I house pyramid at Milton, Hershey School. I later wrote curriculum because Milton Hershey school changed my life.
DTSD Webinars: There is hope in a school district. We need to be responsible for speaking and giving hope to children, not saying the sky is falling. There's nothing you can do.
DTSD Webinars: We we have to come up with something better as a district.
DTSD Webinars: So as a Conservative. I'm not saying, Pull the book, I'm saying, let's put it where it's due. Let's not confuse our children with lots of other social issues. They're inundated enough.
DTSD Webinars: Let's be singularly focus on what it is that they are struggling with.
DTSD Webinars: And let's be direct, and let's be helpful and supportive of all of our kids. Thank you.
Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Anyone else? Yes, Patrick, Donna would like to make a statement. Okay.
DTSD Webinars: So first, Mr. Singer, I want to apologize to you directly
DTSD Webinars: for the way I acted a few minutes ago. It was. It was inappropriate. And it's and it's not like me.
My family's been through a lot
DTSD Webinars: in the last week, and and as a father and as a husband.
DTSD Webinars: I feel stuck.
DTSD Webinars: And and, as the previous speaker just said.
DTSD Webinars: I want this conversation to be a conversation about hope.
There are special interests out there
DTSD Webinars: that want that threaten our school district and this Board
DTSD Webinars: Derry Township has stood for over 300 years.
DTSD Webinars: In just a few years we celebrate 300 years as a township. We predate
DTSD Webinars: the American Revolution. Our school district
DTSD Webinars: is a beacon of public education.
DTSD Webinars: People from all over the world come, here are industries for consumer packaged goods is a global leader. Our research facilities at Penn State
DTSD Webinars: are among the greatest in the world. People come here because of the quality of education they know their kids will receive
DTSD Webinars: when they come to Derry Township.
DTSD Webinars: I don't want to see that tarnished by actions that could be taken by this board.
DTSD Webinars: that would prevent or deny a child
DTSD Webinars: to show up into our schools.
DTSD Webinars: and not be able to be their their authentic selves. We lead.
DTSD Webinars: We put people out into the world because we allow our children to be who they are.
DTSD Webinars: We can't repress that the kids that come out of our school district have an impact in the world.
They change the world kids from right here in Derry Township.
DTSD Webinars: That also means the people that come in
DTSD Webinars: you think about. You gotta go a hundred miles in either direction to find another school district that falls within our State rankings. We don't want State special interests dictating the decisions that this board makes.
DTSD Webinars: and we sure don't want them attacking our neighbors.
DTSD Webinars: So people and this board you have a decision to make. You're either gonna stop them where they are.
DTSD Webinars: And we're going to continue our trajectory
as being a leader in national public education.
DTSD Webinars: where we're going to hand our curriculum. We're going to hand our library
and we're gonna hand our kids futures
DTSD Webinars: over to special interests that use dark money to attack our neighbors.
DTSD Webinars: and again I apologize profusely. But just please understand that the last few days have been held for my family.
DTSD Webinars: I'm very upset, and I didn't mean to do that, but I just expect more
DTSD Webinars: out of Dairy township. Thank you. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Anyone else. I don't have anybody else in the room. But there is somebody online.
DTSD Webinars: We have somebody else in the room. It looks like, too.
Bill. You want to go go ahead.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, actually, I have
DTSD Webinars: 2 people, but one has already spoken
DTSD Webinars: the person that has not spoken yet. Angela Weeder, you have been given permission to speak. Please state your name.
Angela Weader: Angela Weeter. Good evening, everyone
Angela Weader: Terry or Mr. Singer. Thank you so much for trying to keep the meeting in order, and everyone focused on school district business
Angela Weader: away from politics.
Angela Weader: just as the comments of the first virtual caller was struck. I
Angela Weader: would believe then, that Missus Sicker's last comments would be struck from record because they are not
Angela Weader: officially, School Board reported business.
Angela Weader: Secondly, the book that seems to keep coming up in debate can easily be searched on line, and the recommended age level for that book is 14 to 17 years old, with a ninth grade or above reading.
Angela Weader: Content. So I'm not sure
Angela Weader: why. There's a debate about putting it in the middle school. There is a lot of relevant content in that book, and as many have spoken
Angela Weader: to the need for this for many students. The book itself is not recommended to be in a middle school, so why the school district or School Board would approve book to be used in a way that it's not being asked to be used is very curious to me. A high school level, as it's recommended, might be something more appropriate.
Angela Weader: There doesn't seem to need. I don't know why there's a debate for that. It's
Angela Weader: that basically the directions are on the book. If you're trusting the authors with all this information.
Angela Weader: wouldn't you then trust its recommended use? Thank you very much.
Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Good evening. I wasn't planning on speaking at all, so I apologize a little while I speak.
Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: I just want to comment of
DTSD Webinars: this room, and so much of the misinformation in it is so reflective of everything I've seen the last 4 years.
DTSD Webinars: Our board has become so political. We don't talk or listen to each other.
DTSD Webinars: and that is
DTSD Webinars: so tragic for everybody and every person in our community. I also wanted to offer. I didn't. and I wanted to thank Donna, if, as your last meetings and everything going through, and the 4 board members
DTSD Webinars: who did stick up for my family, that was defamed publicly on several websites by a board member. I was so sad that only 4 of you spoke up. But I really appreciate the 4 of you that did
DTSD Webinars: to be a constituent, and have concerns, and to put things on the record that every board member knew and have it defamed in a way that
DTSD Webinars: pretty much pasted me at. As a transphobic, hate-mongering person online. was
something terrifying that my kids are still dealing with the repercussions of.
DTSD Webinars: So she's a school board. I just wanted to thank.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you. We're talking about something that was previous board business
DTSD Webinars: as a candidate. We want to stay away. I understand that. But it came up tonight. We're talking about families being threatened, and it shouldn't only apply to board members. It shouldn't only cause anger when it happens to board members because it's happened to families for years.
That's what I'm standing for.
DTSD Webinars: So thank you. To the board members who have stood behind people and told the truth. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Mrs. Ag. Is there anyone else who would like to comment?
DTSD Webinars: Not at this time.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, well, thank you all very much. We will move on then to and then there's no one else online. Mr. Ayella.
Hmm.
DTSD Webinars: not at this time. Okay.
DTSD Webinars: we'll move to
DTSD Webinars: agenda. Item number 9 adjournment.
DTSD Webinars: Are you? Gonna do go to the order?
DTSD Webinars: No cause. I just wanted to say I've sat here for 8 years and listened to board members make reports that were more off topic than my report, and you interrupted me several times when I made my report.
DTSD Webinars: Mr. Singer, this is Lindsay Drew. We were not advised that good of the order would not be on there tonight, and I wasn't planning to speak, but I would like to say something as a sitting board member.
DTSD Webinars: I did not ask one person in this audience or online to be here tonight or to say anything
DTSD Webinars: while I am on a ballot for an election. I'm sitting here as a School Board director who's finishing their sixth year of service.
DTSD Webinars: When someone approached me to say they wanted to be here this evening to speak out, and I so I clarified that this was our School Board meeting.
DTSD Webinars: Nothing that gets said here changes an election.
DTSD Webinars: and I sit here as a School Board director, not as a candidate.
DTSD Webinars: and their response to me was, We want to show up to talk about your service as a board member, because words that were put out into the community into mailboxes of the constituents I serve maligned me due to my service on this board due to votes I have taken as a member of this governing body.
DTSD Webinars: I am incredibly disappointed in your leadership this evening to shut them down because we have had other members of the community who have raised concerns in the past, when someone interrupted them about violating their first amendment right
DTSD Webinars: looking back in hindsight. There were times, and I will say it right now. I stopped Mrs. English one time because I thought that she was going down a different path. And so I'm going to stand here and say, Mrs. English, I'm sorry that I stopped you in that moment.
DTSD Webinars: This this is not an opportunity for back and forth. But I want to put it out there publicly that I'm sorry for the time that I stopped you as a sitting board member, because I thought you were going to say something to malign me.
DTSD Webinars: because watching this full room this evening, for the first time in 6 years of service, not receive their right to speak as taxpayers of this school district
DTSD Webinars: when I am an elected governing body member is incredibly disappointing.
DTSD Webinars: I have loved serving on this board. I am an alumni of this district. I am a parent in this district, and I am a taxpayer in this district.
DTSD Webinars: and whatever happens, on Tuesday, November seventh. My last day of this term will be at the end of this month, and whoever sits in this seat
DTSD Webinars: at the beginning of December, I wish well.
and I will always be proud to have served the district that I love and thank
DTSD Webinars: the support
DTSD Webinars: I have received. The people who have challenged me to be better, to be self reflective, to learn. I have grown as a human being through my experience and time on this board.
DTSD Webinars: and should that end very soon.
DTSD Webinars: I will always be grateful for the opportunity to have sat here. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Hey? Since Terry, I would like to make the order has been opened up, we will continue them. I didn't plan to say anything, but I just wanna say for everybody here, I know it's hard to come. Some of you may have been at other meetings. Some of you may not have been other meetings. I know, in my 14 years of service some meetings are easy, some are difficult, but it's always important for community members to not only speak what they feel.
DTSD Webinars: but but also to recognize that everyone has different opinions, and I just appreciate everyone coming forward with whatever their opinions are. I agree with many of your concerns that were introduced about slandering or misaligning anybody's stance, including board members.
DTSD Webinars: and I welcome any of you who assume anything about any of us that you've been heard or told speak with us directly, because we're all on the same side. No one
DTSD Webinars: runs for board for the school Board unless they care about students, and every single one here of you on the board. I respect your value of the importance of students, and that's why you're here, because there's no other benefit except knowing you're doing good for students. But please let us all.
DTSD Webinars: whether it's the person you came here to support or not. Let us all represent ourselves.
DTSD Webinars: not what others want you to think about us just like you're interested in clearing up misperceptions that you perceive about your friends. Please give all of us the same courtesy, because we're open to hear from any of you, and we'd rather tell our story than hear it from anybody else. We respect what you support.
DTSD Webinars: and we also ask that you just know that we're all here for the same purpose, and if you want to misalign anyone, that is your that is your right.
DTSD Webinars: But I appreciate your defending those that you think were misaligned.
DTSD Webinars: but those that you want to miss in line just give us a chance. We'll talk to you. Thank you.
Hmm.
DTSD Webinars: thank you. Thank you, Dr. Cronin. Anybody else have anything to say. Go to the order. This is Erica Schmidt. I have just one very quick thing to say. clearly, we all
DTSD Webinars: bring our own experiences to what
DTSD Webinars: gives us our opinion, and how we want to raise our families, how we want to
DTSD Webinars: be in the community and help the community.
DTSD Webinars: We always we really, really need to remember that this School Board hears from everybody.
DTSD Webinars: So we have to listen to everybody and come up with a compromise for everybody.
DTSD Webinars: So it is not going against somebody's opinion
DTSD Webinars: if we vote a certain way. and it's not necessarily going
DTSD Webinars: to the other side. It is trying to come up with the best
DTSD Webinars: idea
DTSD Webinars: to help raise your children
DTSD Webinars: so to constantly
DTSD Webinars: put everybody on the right and the left is not helping.
DTSD Webinars: So please try to understand that. Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Thank you.
DTSD Webinars: Does anyone else have anything they'd like to say for the good of the order.
DTSD Webinars: Okay, thank you very much. We'll move on to item number 9. Adjournment. The next public board of Director meeting will be held November twentieth, 2,023.
DTSD Webinars: Starting at 7 PM. Please refer to the district website to register for virtual attendance. As the meeting draws closer. have a motion to adjourn this meeting. So moved Maria. Mammy. second, Eric Schmidt, all in favor, please say aye, aye, anybody opposed? No.
DTSD Webinars: okay. The meeting is adjourned at 8, 46. Thank you.