Order.
It is 501 And if we
could go around the room and everybody introduce yourself.
It's been a while since we met.
So if we could start
on the right, then be good about that.
Steve Kaufman Citizens Advisor.
Donna Cronin School Board member.
Maria Minsky Board Member.
Joe McFarland Superintendent.
Donna.
Terry Singer School Board member.
Mike Friends Business Manager.
Michele Agee Board Secretary.
Thank you everybody.
Thanks for coming this evening.
We have a pretty short agenda.
Well, first, we have to approve this the minutes
from our previous meeting.
And they're actually not attached.
So what I would suggest is that our next meeting,
we approve this, these meeting minutes and the previous minutes.
Okay.
Because they don't have the ones attached from the last meeting.
Okay. So what is it?
They will approve this meetings and the last meetings at the next meeting.
Okay. Got it.
Okay, so forget that one.
Okay. So unfinished business.
So as we were
working through the COVID planning and everything,
one of the things that came up in our health and safety plan was making
sure our indoor air quality is what it needs to be.
And so
Mr. Anderson was tasked with working with Train
to do an indoor air quality assessment and we have the results.
So I just ask him to spend a little bit of time going over
those as well as the recommendations.
Good evening.
You have received this report, correct?
The air quality assessment for Mark.
I'm sorry, just before you get started, our system is down for poor docs, so
I won't be able to bring this report up.
High up here.
What I can do. I have one. Report.
I can go.
You have it.
You want it.
In the copies?
Can we switch order?
And then while they get copies.
Yeah.
Okay, so what we'll do is wait till Mr.
Friends has the copies
made, and we'll skip to the next item, which is just an elementary facility.
Update.
At our last meeting, we presented to the full board.
If you remember back in the pre-COVID.
I think it was.
We'd gotten the recommendations
from our architect of record and
the decision was to do a full board presentation.
Well, like I put off a few times because of everything COVID related.
So we finally did have that presentation to the full board.
And the recommendation coming out of that was
that we will continue to hold on to those recommendations at this point.
But given the uncertainties with budget and the financial picture of the district,
none of those options were anything that we could even entertain at this time.
So what the discussion recommendation was,
was to go to the items that are mission critical
to keep that building functioning, at least in the short term.
And primarily that's the what started this whole work
was the HPC, the chiller and everything. So
Mr. Henderson was tasked again
with getting some information on what it would look like to rebuild the chiller,
to repair the chiller, to replace the chiller,
and he'll be coming back to the October 26 meeting with that information
so that we can make decisions and plans for moving forward to at least
get that piece of the infrastructure
solved so that we can continue to use that building, at least in the short term.
Okay.
With that said, as with
Steve and John, were you two at the meeting
where we talked about the elementary facility study.
And all of that discussion,
as I believe there were on Friday when we talked about.
Okay, then I can back up a little bit.
Yeah. So they presented
three options.
One was and help me out here, Mr. Henderson.
One was a complete rebuild, like a new building sort of built.
They were proposing built
sort of where the parking lot is between the middle and elementary school.
The other was a renovation of the elementary school
and the other was a can making a connection.
A renovation or.
Renovation with a connection between the SCC and the elementary.
However, all three of those came in
well over $100 million.
And that is I mean, there's it is a lot of money.
But the other thing that we're
talking about is the full board is most schools have neighborhood schools.
So you might have six or seven schools that need renovated or rebuilt.
And so you could be talking 20, 30, $40 million per school.
We're one campus, so ours is one building.
So while it is a lot of money,
it isn't necessarily off the table in the future.
Once we have a better handle on where we are
financially and we're also in a really good spot,
thanks to a lot of hard work with boards over the years.
With our debt service.
Right now, our debt service is due
to be retired, I believe, in 2024,
which would mean we'd have no debt.
Now we are looking at some other things to maybe help us in the short
term with budget, but that's an excellent place to be.
One thing I do want to add to that
for some of you new folks I was on school board, had been out of town
so for 12 years and I work very closely on three building projects there.
The numbers
that are in the proposal that we got are far higher than I've ever seen before.
So I don't want you to be scared about those numbers.
I think there's some things
need to be fleshed out in those numbers that would certainly make it.
Thank you very much for something significantly less.
And frankly, a renovation of that building is going to be far more expensive
just based on the issues the building has
and then to consider looking at a new one.
And so can you. Remind us of the age of the building?
Which part?
Yeah, I was going to say that's part the oldest part, about 54, 55 years old.
And the newest parts probably five.
Maybe it's going to be older than that because I'm here almost five.
And that's difficult.
But seven, seven.
Seven, that's the the second MPR.
But that was just a room that was added that required a significant renovation.
The last renovation of that building happened in 1989.
Yeah, it was originally built in 1954, 56, something like that.
So it definitely, you know, is is is a need for that.
As part of that last major renovation is when the current water
tower and chiller were installed and they're currently 30 years old
and the life expectancy of a water
cooled tower is anywhere from 15 to 20 years.
And for a subtropical chiller,
they're probably 20 or 25 years, both pieces of equipment
and served as well and well outlived what they should have been doing.
So do we.
Did we determine I think you told us what you think, how much longer
that chiller is going to hang out for and where are you going to drink.
And I'll tell you,
I'm also a report.
Numbers are going to come up tonight. Okay?
I really can't say.
I can tell you that last year I did make arrangements that in the event
because we were getting too technical,
we have a two pipe system, which means we can
either be in cooling mode or we can be in heating mode.
Okay, So for example, this week we're converting from cooling mode
to heating mode.
So last winter
I made arrangements to get a price and made appropriate lateral connections
or electric connections available should we need to back a tractor trailer in there
with a chiller running an air cooled show, not a water cooled chiller?
Because I don't know, I simply do not know.
It is. It is simply worn out and we have
patched and glued and repaired as many parts as we can.
So I don't want to say, hey, it's got two years left, has gone through.
I'm not that good, I'm just not.
But I wrote down so I wrote down from the last meeting
just to give our citizen advisors some information that just to upgrade
the mechanicals and to connect the two buildings is 20 to $30 million.
So you're thinking of that $100 million number.
But then also to Joe's point, we just have one elementary school
on our campus as opposed to four out around town,
and they've not been renovated or updated for a significant amount of time.
And we have sailing mechanicals in there that are going to cost a good $30 million.
Yeah, there's just simply no way around that.
But there will be some.
We I'm working, as Mr.
Macfarlane said, I'm working on three different options for that.
The cooling tower in chiller one would be to rebuild the cooling tower,
one would be to replace it with light condition, actually a brand new one.
And the other one would be to look at an air cooled chiller
just again, not to nerd out on you, but just to be real quick,
the air cooled chiller uses air and to to cool
the liquid down the fans and we have air cooled chillers and other buildings.
Okay, This is a unique set up.
It's a water cooled.
It's a water
cooling tower where the fluid runs out through the cooling tower to cool down.
It goes back into the chiller.
It's a two page, it's a two part system.
And the chiller is a centrifugal chiller that is oversize for the building.
So we're only able to run the chiller
based on the rest of the building at about 55 to 60%.
So it does become a balancing act for our
guys to balance all that out.
That's all I'll say.
It's complicated.
So we'll be coming back
to the October 26 meeting then with some recommendations as far as
what our recommendation is to proceed in dealing
with the Chiller issue at the elementary.
Yes, this
comment and that has to do with
I think the last time we were here,
it was pre-COVID.
pre-COVID.
My hope would be that
you have now considered the current state
which is in and relook at it to see
does that really still apply
the criteria that we're using for
class sizes on whatever should be looked at?
Because I think the experience over the past couple months,
I would just say there's a feasibility study, let's go
without considering what we have
out to
prove that, yes, you do have to go back to the building
where I saw the old building, you know, next door.
I remember the school board is wrestling with, what do we do with that?
So, you know, re-imagine. Yeah.
You look at the clock thinking about what are the possibilities,
the new facilities that the district has now.
And they may be terrible options,
but you put them on the table and see what sticks.
But I would certainly suggest that you're staying
within the feasibility study pre-COVID with natural
ecologists.
And that actually did come up in the discussion was about, you know,
we don't have to redo the whole study, but there we do need to relook at it, given
what we know now that we didn't know
ten months ago, eight months ago, pre-COVID.
So thank you.
Before we move
on, I just wanted to make one comment about the trailer.
I don't know anything about chillers, but I know this may be helpful or not.
Mark, when I was representative from this board to Dauphin County
Technical School
for one year, there wasn't one meeting at which we didn't talk about the chiller.
There wasn't one meeting that the.
Building, the grounds.
Director didn't come up and talk about the chiller. So
if you I'm sure you communicate with other building
grounds directors here and there, if you haven't talked with him yet,
it might be worth a call because he wrestled with this stuff
or he might still be talking about it, You know, as far as I know, I don't know.
But anyway, I don't know his name, but I know that they looked at all
the different options and talked about it and went inside out about it.
And I just want to share that with you. Thank you.
You'd have a copy of the the air Quality report.
We did this in cooperation for working with Trane,
who is probably our largest equipment supplier,
our of our building automation system or control system.
And this was an indoor assessment of all of the physically physical
inspection of every piece of equipment, Atrius equipment in all of our buildings.
So it took probably the better part of 45 to 60 days.
And some of this bounced out of the
the pandemic team meetings that Joe held and some questions
raised by the CDC about increasing outdoor air intake went 100%.
And there's a lot of those pieces of the puzzle that came up.
So we work through all of that and we please
feel free to trust me with questions.
I can answer them as we go. It's not a problem.
But you see here that we came back ultimately with
they came back with 14 recommendations for us.
And, you know, we you can see that we have done a number of these.
We now, early in the morning from 4 to 6 a.m.
to a complete two hour building purge of all the air.
We have changed the
minimum air damage position to a minimum of 25%.
I'm going to stop there for just a minute.
It's one of the things that we were told
early on is you want to go to 100% outside air.
And conceptually, that sounds like a great idea.
But this equipment is all designed and built and and
with targeted, it with targeted based on square footage and all those things.
So to go from a a current position of 25% to 100%,
you don't have enough capacity either to
heat the air, incoming or dehumidifier the incoming air.
So and we're all clear, we can't do that.
I mean, we have moved to a minimum of 45 and that has been implemented.
And if at some point, to your point,
sorry to say, if you go at some point to redo the building, some of those things
need to be reconsidered that you want you want more flexibility due to a higher
percentage of outdoor air.
There's there's cost to that, you know, both in heating and cooling.
But it can't be done.
We're limited right now with what we can do.
I'm two quick questions.
Donna Cronin, what what was the the setting before these recommendations?
I would say probably a majority of them are probably in the 18 to 21% range.
It wasn't there were some, I'll be honest with you, that were
maybe 12 to 15, but they were in
like the basement areas
where it still was not like in a classroom or a hallway or a cafeteria.
Okay. Thank you.
We were just this something is the FCC.
We review the dashboards monthly as part of this.
They were two repairs that they found for us that have been taken care of
and the cleaned during coils at the high school.
That was just an oversight in our bookkeeping.
It was a situation where one thought the other guy got another guy
and I say dirty just because the cooling when it goes into the
through the
the the the copper tubing, if it gets dust on it,
it inhibits the ability to dissipate the heat.
And we clean those coils probably, I would say five, four times a year.
It's just part of a regular ongoing maintenance issue.
Okay.
The other point here was increased
filters to more 13.
We can't do that.
We're currently using Merv eight filters.
And again, this goes back to the the way the equipment was rated, the
the take that the air cooled chiller DCC out of the equation for a minute
and our next newest chiller is about 20 years old.
So we simply don't have the capacity to move
because higher filtration is going to restrict more airflow,
which means you've got to push more through there.
We can't get to there.
So what we've done to kind of
at least leave some of that is instead of changing our filters
every quarter, we're changing that every two months.
Okay. With the Merv age that we use.
Again, one of the things is that
a dirty
Merv eight filter
is actually a good thing in the sense that it's
restricting more airflow and collecting more dust and whatnot.
So we are changing them on a regular basis
to to improve that.
The other recommendation there and I think in the the information that Mr.
Macfarlane sent to you was the relationship regarding relative humidity.
And there's been a number of studies done
that relate to
a change in the relative humidity in the building
as a direct relationship
with infections, because when the humidity drops below,
you know, roughly 40% during the winter months
is when you see more virus spread.
So we're working diligently
to keep our humidity in all the buildings between 40 and 60%.
That's the sweet spot we need to be in.
But a number of
our all of our buildings in some way, shape or form
do not have these humidity sensors in them.
So as part of this plan, I did ask train to supply us
with a price by building to to insert
or to include these these sensors in the building
so we can begin to track that more actively.
I have a quick question.
So besides the so once you have a community sensor
and it tells you that you're not in the sweet spot
or that the current system allows you to adjust the humidity
or you need outside external humidifiers or dehumidifiers.
With the exception of the elementary building, we can make adjustments.
Okay,
so the reports there,
we probably talk to train probably about two or three weeks about adjustments.
The HPC guys have all been involved in looking at the dashboard
daily, looking at things and the
the administration and the different place has been very helpful.
There's been an issue.
I think our biggest concern at this point is staff is not very happy
with how cool the rooms are and we hear that on a regular basis.
And so our recommendation is you bring a sweatshirt
or a sweater because again, that all plays into this, you know.
Yeah, the first day of school was not pretty when all those girls
were on the little short skirts and little sandals.
But they've learned.
I understand. And again, I felt bad one day.
I understand and I feel bad about it.
But we're really trying to keep the humidity
and the temperature in that sweet spot because we're currently running.
We would normally
on a Tuesday night we would go to a setback position
in the buildings at 6:00 and
bring them back one year, five or 530 the next morning.
And then on the weekends we went to a different set back.
Currently, we're not doing any set back, so we're running 24 seven with heating
and cooling to maintain building humidity and temperature.
And what is the temperature goal?
Temperature goal is about 70 degrees
and I would say we are generally pretty good with that.
I would say 69 will be 71.
I did have a situation
teacher contact issues concern because of the
the temperature was fluctuating in the room I'm thinking
so I pulled up and I'm not seeing fluctuation.
I said what do you think as well it's like 70.4 that it goes to 70.5.
And like
I said, you got to give me a little red here.
You know?
And then once I explained it to her, she was much better
because there are there you get into there's dead zones
where before it goes to here, it goes to cooling.
It just sits there until it gets triggered one way or the other.
I said, we're fine, we're good.
But it was just kind of like, I keep I'm not seeing this. So.
So it was the high school actually at 70 degrees because they
I mean, they again, is addressing really warm, which is fine.
You just wear the appropriate clothes.
And again, it really depends on as big as that building is.
And the number of system to high depends where you are.
Okay, because the it's based on air exchanges per person.
That per person is not based on the size of the current class,
but it's based on what the maximum occupancy is.
So the classrooms
occupancy really is 28 students and you have 14 in there.
And makes a good. Point. Okay.
And that does affect that.
But again, it's
it gets into that zone where
the equipment's not smart enough to say, wait a minute, I'm built for 28.
Only a 42 can't make that kind of adjustment.
Perfect.
Thank you. Looking at the recommendation,
really talking about the deferred filter
for because the problem coming out of that.
We do not.
And again it comes down to and again I've got to kind of
be the dead horse but this comes back to age of equipment
and to put these additional larger filters in there,
you need more you need more space and it's simply not there.
So we've been very diligent in changing the filters
and those kind of things to do what we can.
But some of the other recommendations about ionization units and HEPA
filters, there simply is there's physically not space to do it.
You're quite right. So even with that,
they're only effective
down to 34.3 micron, which is like 89.7% effective.
So, you know, you do you the coronavirus 2.1 like.
Mm hmm. That's true. Yeah.
So you can't filter through to provide
protection outside of air or water. Yes.
This is what the question was with Fred Rogers.
You know, newer technology had what they considered a UV light.
It was like an the virus.
Mrs. Sikka brought that to our to our attention
during the pandemic team meetings that we were having.
And again,
with the inadequate we have the amount of air we're moving
and the space recovery, we simply can't do all those things.
I mean, that comment was I understand what an upgrade.
Exactly. Exactly.
And I don't think in this, if you were to go buy a new unit today,
I don't think you're not you're not going to be able to have that option.
And I think that capacity built in. I don't think so.
Because of COVID.
Correct.
So I'm wondering
back to the facility study with all of the conversation about the the
the chillers and the systems, how much money we're actually spending on
keep like our monthly expenses to keep this
antiquated chiller going.
I guess we look at the big price tag of what it is
to build a new elementary school,
but we're also getting more
fuel efficient tech technology,
the best technology of new systems in there, and a mechanicals
because we're literally dumping money into this old system.
And what is that costing us?
Like electricity and all of that every month?
Because the system was so old and
so are you.
So you're focusing on the
the short term, theoretically lower price,
but small bang for your buck versus what looks like a higher
price has more value?
Yeah, I don't think I don't think putting
I don't want to spend 30 million for a Band-Aid.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, yes.
And then also the buildings are old.
And right now that 20 or 30 million was to connect the buildings.
That's right. Right. Exactly. It just the not just.
My. Case, I think to address your question, I think one of the things that
that I cannot tell you is the the amount of time that our guys spend there.
We have two and a half HPC techs and
this time of year and in the summer,
there's been a lot of time in the elementary building.
I really do.
But I am looking,
as I said earlier, three different options to to repair which there which is there.
And I, I have some preliminary data, but I don't have all the data.
And I'm waiting on the last piece of that puzzle
to be able to give you kind of a better picture as to what this looks like.
But, you know, in
a water cooling tower is efficient,
but it comes to your point with additional maintenance issues and water
treatment issues and a lot of other things that go into that piece.
And then maybe some other things I'm thinking about it,
the age of the building, you know, the windows, the roof, insulation.
Right.
So I think we're just facing the inevitable
and trying to wrap everybody's head around it, I guess.
Well, and that's where I mean, we really wrestled with this, too,
even before we did the presentation to the to the full board,
you know, pre-COVID, our recommendation would have looked different.
But we realize, given the the the uncertainties
with budget and even short term
and even into the next budgeting year, not this one that we're currently in,
we have a lot of unknowns with budgeting.
And so we need to really look at what can we do in the short
term to maybe get us five, seven more years,
but not stop the process of planning long term during that time.
I mean, that would buy us some time to begin some real long
term planning and getting things in place because a building renovation does
just doesn't happen like that, nor does a built a new building go up like that.
It takes years.
And so
whatever recommendation we would come forth with and whatever
the board decides, that process of what do we do with the elementary
has to keep going, that we have to keep planning forward with that.
Because I think pre-COVID Mike can correct me or Joe,
if we could have pulled off a project like this without any tax increase
at that.
That 30 to $40 million range.
Absolutely. Prior to COVID 19.
But that's where we're stuck now, is is
that if we did that same project now, under the circumstances were under,
we would have to raise taxes.
The hundred million would have had to raise taxes regardless of anything
over that.
Okay.
Let's continue and to the discussion of exactly
which when you have the mission critical item,
which is you won't get a new building and you've got all the design done
in the next five years, it won't happen.
So you have a mission critical
that you have to work with the existing system that has limitations.
And the question that you should be asking is
what are the steps that I can take to provide the best environment?
That means
more fresh air coming in from the inside, cracked windows, doors open.
There's things that can be done to provide a more safe environment,
and that's where you have to have that protocol set up
that I get
out of the system and put a new one in.
But there are things that can be done.
We had looked at some time ago shows
I came here looking at addressing the the the HPC issue of holistically
to go from a two point to a four pipe and get away from the water tower.
And the reason that I am looking at the air cooled chiller
for this project for the elementary building as a stopgap measure
is my thought process is that if we get a unit
and let's just say for grins and giggles in 15 years we're building a new building.
There's no reason you could not take that unit
and repurpose it to the new building.
And then you've offset your HPC equipment by, you know, 15 years
and that that then helps the whole budget process
because it moves everything out a little bit.
So that's one of the reasons that I'm doing what I'm doing is just to see again,
if it makes any sense whatsoever.
And just to clarify, Mrs.
Nomi had mentioned 20 to 30 million.
That was when we also looked at the needs.
Obviously the the chiller is a piece of that, but for instructional
what's best
in structurally that the UCC and the elementary are not connected
and so that was also including a connector so that staff can travel
kids can travel, you can share staff so that 2030 million was for the chiller,
but then also some type of a connector to make both buildings
feasible.
I want to clarify that also did include renovation of every classroom,
you know, kind of furnishings, fittings, those types of things that are in there.
So it wasn't like they wouldn't be touched.
Just the physical layout of the space would not change,
but they would be updated as well as part of that.
So I have a question because you I was really ready to ask,
but I thought like was a silly question,
but I want to try and I interpret when you said right.
So I was thinking in my head
a case of the boiler, that the back boiler system is what we need first.
And if we got that, you know, that Cadillac of whatever to really make
it work, and then we build it and then we renovate, is that a bad thing?
Because that because it show up, because the new system is older
than the school is going to be?
Or is that something that says, well, we're not going to waste our money,
we can still use it.
Now, I don't think would be Dr. Cronin.
I say that because if you go if we ultimately look at their air
cooled chiller versus
what we have now, which involves both water and the centrifugal chiller,
there's a lot of moving parts of that, but anything with water,
reeds, rust, you know, so that would be the other part of it.
And then we do spend a lot of time patching that thing and keeping it
running.
So I, I, my intention is to bring to the board
at least three, maybe even four potential solutions that may work.
And you might say this is great, Mark, but none of these were
go back to the drawing board. That's what I'll do.
But that at this point,
that's kind of my benchmark as to where I'm at, where I'm headed.
To get something that we could then repurpose in a new building.
Will be one of the options that I'd like to put with you.
All right. That's very helpful.
So there any other questions?
Okay,
we're done.
I guess.
I think I have just
a pretty basic question mark.
So is there a proposal in here to do additional work by train
or the letter for additional work was just the original letter
to get the work that was done here, done.
The original work was sent to get this done.
We do have an ongoing, you know, work with them looking at the dashboard.
But also Terry, this will help us to prepare
moving forward district wide for the replacement for Calhoun rebuilds.
I mean. So this work has been done.
The air quality assessment has been done.
These are the recommendations. Correct.
And then you'll be coming forth to the full board with options
for how to incorporate or address
the recommendations that are being made.
Correct.
And to kind of follow up on your earlier comment
about you always talked about Chiller was one of the high schools 20 years old.
And so one of the things we talked about with training they did this study was
they want to start it in the start by saying, well, you should replace it.
I said, Well, wait a minute, let's look at put new tires on.
And so we are looking at looking at a rebuild too. That
mean the to install the
humidity sensors in all of the buildings is about $47,000.
And we can break that down by building.
And again, if asked for a recommendation, I can certainly give you one.
But I would look at this
as trying to
rebuild as much equipment this weekend
as opposed to outright replacement.
Does it limit some of the things we can do with equipment?
Absolutely.
But in looking at it from a financial standpoint
and the impact to the bottom line to the budget,
I'm going to look to rebuild something first and buy myself maybe ten
or 15 years before I really have to dig into replacing something.
But but your proposal for different options
to retrofit, rebuild
the back systems and airflow systems
and so forth will
not be based on, quote, normal times.
It will be based on,
to some extent, the time we're in now,
which which involves
sanitizing air.
So that it doesn't carry virus.
I want to be disingenuous and be perfectly clear to say that
we in some of these situations, if we don't replace the equipment, I'm
not going to be able to meet a higher standard of fresh air intake.
I'm not kidding it.
We cannot do that.
Now, if that becomes the calling cards at work, we to be able to go 100%,
you know, outside at the drop of the dime, that's a different discussion.
Okay.
But what I'm trying to do at this point is the quote that we have,
the middle school.
Well, check that the element, the DCC building is probably the best
that we have because it's the newest building
we put a new chiller in about three years ago and it's working like a top.
And then I think you kind of go from there to the high school
to the middle school to the elementary building.
So it's a matter of looking at all those things, you know.
So the full board in making this decision is going to be thinking about
keeping all of this functioning in a normal world without a virus present.
But some of the recommendations will be including filtration systems
and sanitizing that addresses an environment in which we have a virus.
I would agree.
I think what we've tried to do at this point, Terry, is to to address the
the issue with the virus.
At this point, we've been very direct about, if you will,
classroom cleaning, high contact, you know, touch points be to a nurse.
And those we can do with just manpower at this point.
And we were fortunate that we have sufficient manpower to do that.
But if we begin to look at other things, like to move to the Merv 13,
to go to ionization units or go to increased airflow,
that involves a whole lot more than than just replacing each other.
That involves inside work where the air handler is sized
to be able to move that much air.
Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Miller, did I see your hand go up.
As far as the
concepts of
the alternative, or is there a report.
Or some.
You know, Oh, so. Yes.
It's actually attached.
If you go to the
last board meeting in September.
Okay.
It's actually attached to that agenda.
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Do you know how to do that or do you want Michelle to get you on or.
I can I can track it down.
If you can email me and we'll. Okay.
We'll get you one.
Very good.
Thanks.
Okay.
I, I don't think we have any new business.
Are there any other questions?
I mean, public comment.
Did you have your meetings?
Oh, yeah.
Well, you can go to the Zoom link available.
Probably think it's worth it.
There was a Zoom link for registration for General Services.
Okay. Yeah. Is
Yeah.
And we'll continue with that.
Where is that?
Where is the. Link?
So if you're on the home page
and you have the activities, the calendar on the left side,
it's like it where it says general services, it's a hyperlink.
So you get the little hand over, click on it.
And right in there are directions and links to the register so you can do it
for like today would have been curriculum council, General Services and the board.
Joe for the for the citizen advisors though other.
Advisors I thank you I, I mistake and I was that is for the general public
but if as a citizen advisor if you can't be here physically
but want to still participate, you need to let me know about
a week ahead
of time or when the agenda comes out because that Mr.
Swiger back there,
who is our director of infrastructure technology, he will send a panelist invite
which allows you then to participate more like this.
Okay.
Do you have a copy of the facility study?
Do you have the big coming up? Likewise.
So I'll, I'll go.
And just email me if you can't get it and we'll we can get that to you.
Is it okay because we have some time as Michelle
goes and prints to offer for them so they can leave with them tonight.
Is it? Yeah. It's okay, Michelle.
Thank you.
Because I,
I think we need to check,
make sure there's a public documents show because we didn't.
I don't think that report is available.
No. And that's what
in our last presentation we did a very condensed version.
So I, I think we need to check and make sure first that we can.
We can check. Yes. Yes.
And with with the director of state schools.
Oh, that's right. Yes.
Sorry, there is because there's maps and things in there
we may not be able to give out publicly because of the safe schools piece.
Thank you, Mike.
But we'll get you what we can.
And probably could also arrange if you wanted to view.
It, to look at it. Here.
You know, in the school building.
There's just we're safe with safety and safe schools.
We can't have school maps out anywhere in the public.
They make us do that, too.
If it makes you feel any better.
So if we
have something we can give to you, Michelle, we'll email it.
You need it, print it, let us know.
We'll follow up either way. Okay?
Thank you.
That's it?
That's there any public comment, Dave, that you see on that now?
Okay.
So none. None.
Thank you.
So with that, we can can I have a motion to adjourn
the General Services Committee meeting?
So. Terry Singers, I'm Donna Cronan.
Second.
Thank you. The meeting is adjourned at 541.