Scored a distributor
to order and announce that this meeting is being live streamed and audio recorded.
This meeting is being conducted both in person and virtually.
I'd like to request board members to please state your name when speaking.
This is a big roll call.
Mr. Bennett.
Dr. KERNAN, here is Drew here.
This is many here.
Mr. Roso.
Here. Mr. Met here.
Dr. Shaw. Here.
Mrs. Decker Here.
Mr. Singer. Here. Nine present.
Thank you.
Please rise if you are able, and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Obedience to.
My stance.
One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.
May I have a motion to approve the December
13, 2021 Board of Directors agenda?
So moved.
Second, Mike Rizzo.
Is there any discussion?
I move to amend the agenda as a listed
with the removal of number
nine recognition of citizen questions.
Second lenses your.
Right.
And under discussion of this item, I'd like to explain why
I am moving to amend the agenda, because our board President
didn't follow proper process and procedure when adding this agenda.
Our board president added the agenda item called Recognition of Citizen Questions.
One day prior to this meeting.
Policy states that board members should be given the agenda three days in advance.
And also the agenda was finalized
at agenda planning por per board procedure
last Wednesday with the Superintendent, president and three other board members
and this addition was not discussed with those in attendance
at any new 45 minute section to our agenda
without board approval sets a precedent for public comment.
A recognition of citizens are part of our board approved policy,
while citizen question and answers are not.
If you agree with this new
business section being added,
even if you agree with it, that's fine.
But we should hold everyone accountable to following our process
and procedure at all times.
I would like to apologize and state that this item
was added to the agenda item nine outside of normal agenda inclusion
with consultation of our legal counsel, Mr. Z.
In order to give Dr.
Winslow a chance to make sure there is a full understanding of items
as related to COVID and the pandemic team's recommendations and guidance.
The intent was for Dr.
Winslow to answer those questions that we have answers for, to
make sure there is full clarity and understanding within the community,
but that there might be items unable for her to be addressed immediately.
And that was the intention of that, of adding that board item
after we received additional information on Friday, Friday, after agenda planning.
And like I said,
once again, it was in consultation with, with, with talked with Mr. Z.
So that's just my explanation there.
Thank you.
Mr. Z, this is Lindsay Drew.
Could you confirm did you
consult with Dr.
Cronin and let her know that you did not recommend this?
The question was how do we follow policy, is what I asked him.
That's not my question.
Mr. Z Did you tell Dr.
Cronin that you did not recommend this procedurally, not the legality of it,
that you would recommend that this is not the best way to proceed with this?
Yeah.
The question I was asked was about the legality as far as my recommendation.
I had concerns about changing significantly
from your past policy and procedure given given the late hour.
Now, if the board again wants to move in a direction where you add an agenda item
that is question and answer,
that's certainly something you can do under the law.
But my concern as far as a recommendation to your question was
this was discussed again Friday.
And, you know, I'm not going to get into the legal advice outside of of saying
that the question that was posed to me was legally, can you do this?
And that's you know,
that's as far as I'm going to go with with what that discussion was.
But, you know, obviously.
Thank you, Mr. Z.
This is still Lindsey Drew.
I am going to support the amendment by Mrs.
Dicker.
Dr. Cronin notified us, and I want to first say
that I am not opposed to there being question and answer.
I think one of the things we struggle with the most as board members is often
during our business meetings there are questions
that come up during public comment, and it's incredibly frustrating
to not be able to answer those questions or to leave things
hanging that could be taken out of context or misconstrued.
However, in this, does part of it
the way that we get to solutions and the way that we do things matters.
And we set the example as the board of directors for the way we do things.
And we cannot expect the rest of the district
to follow procedure and to follow things the way that they should be done.
If we're not operating in that way as well.
Dr. Cronin emailed this board at eight after 8 p.m.
on Saturday evening.
I responded back within an hour and listed questions.
I told her I was not opposed to hearing from the community
but asked very specific questions
and stated, I would like to speak with you about this.
Please let me know when you're available to talk.
I did not hear back from Dr.
Cronin and did not have the opportunity to pose those questions.
Given the premise of the language that was added to this, it
specifically about the Supreme Court ruling and the mask mandate
and things about that pandemic.
And I feel like
our district has sent out
several district wide communications to address those.
We have a pandemic update on our agenda, and our superintendent has a proven record
of strong communication with constituents, parents, taxpayers
who contact her and ask questions through our community feedback.
And so for that reason, I would request that we do not start
this on the agenda until it goes through the proper process.
And I am fully open to board discussion about it
through the Policy Committee and through our normal
process.
But to set a precedent like this and to deviate from things
and not include every single one of the nine
board members to have the opportunity to weigh in on it
to me is incredibly inappropriate and I cannot support it.
With all due respect, Lindsey, I appreciate your opinion.
And just because you say policy wasn't followed doesn't mean it was. Dr.
Cronin I did not say policy wasn't followed.
I said procedures were not followed.
And our board operating guidelines were not followed.
I apologize. But once again, I consulted Mr.
Z and that's something I will continue to do.
So any other discussion before we make a vote?
And on Bill, just to make sure for clarity, we're voting to amend the.
The motion was to amend the agenda. Correct.
Is that all we're voting on first?
That is correct.
You're voting as to whether to amend the agenda and I believe MiSeq.
Or to
delete item number nine, correct? Yes.
It's to amend to approve
the agenda as listed, but to remove item number nine.
Gotcha.
Any other discussion?
Yeah, I have just a comment to make.
This is Terri Singer sitting in front of every board member is a card
with a number of propositions on it that all board members
agreed to function by and support.
The one that concerns me with respect to the way
this was done is respect the process.
Putting legality aside, putting policy aside,
the process is clear in terms of how this should have been done.
We all should have been consulted ahead of time.
The issue should have been discussed maybe through the policy committee.
And it sounds like there might be interest
in revising our comment policy.
But to handle it in this manner and the way it was done, I cannot support it.
Thank you.
And as I say, an executive session for the good of the order that this
is not private is that I apologize for asking people through email.
And in the future we'll call everybody life rather than doing B now.
So thank you.
Yes, this is Erica Schmidt, I think
we all understand that this is not how
normally.
Things.
Are passed according to how it has been going, but I think Dr.
Cronin has already said she consulted with our solicitor and he said.
It is.
Her right to be able to do exactly what she did.
We may not like it, but she's president and she did have the right
to change the agenda.
So I think moving forward,
the questions regarding COVID that the
audience will have a chance at the end to ask Dr.
Winslow.
You know, there's.
I. Want them to understand that she is
limited with what she can say because we are still waiting
for information, but she's going to answer to the best of her ability.
And I think
I think we all have to respect that.
But I do not see a problem with the way
moving forward, at least tonight with how this goes.
Okay.
So let me if I can get this right. So.
So we will be voting on a motion to approve
the board of agendas, a board of directors agenda
without item.
Your voting on your voting on a motion to amend the agenda
to delete the item that the speaker and then you'll vote on it.
You'll have a motion.
I believe you have a motion already for approval of the agendas.
Right?
So the first one is approving the motion to approve the
to amend the agenda to delete item number nine.
Motion to
attend the agenda.
The agenda.
The agenda. Agenda to delete. Item number nine.
Okay. Got that, Michel.
Got it.
Okay,
So I think we should do this as a roll call vote.
Yes. So ZG Roll call.
Mr. Bennett. No.
Dr. Farnham? No.
Mr.. YES,
Mrs. Manny? No.
Mr. RIZZO.
Sorry. No.
Mr. Schmidt. No.
Dr. Shaw. No.
Mrs. Sikka. Yes.
Mr. Singer?
Yes. Four.
Yes. Six. Now.
Okay, so now we will be voting to
approving the motion as listed.
Okay. Approve the agenda as listed.
Should we do a roll call vote on this as well?
Okay.
We'll do a roll call vote on this to approve the agenda.
Tonight's agenda as listed mzgee.
Dr. Curran.
Yes, Ms..
Drew. No.
Mrs. Manny. Yes.
Mr. Rizzo. Yes.
Mr. SCHMIDT. Yes.
Dr. Shore. Yes.
Mrs. Decker.
Now, Mr. Singer? No.
Mr. Bennett. Yes.
Six. Yes.
Three. Now,
I would like to announce that the Board met in executive session
prior to this meeting to discuss safety and other personnel matters.
This is now an opportunity for residents
and taxpayers to address the board on matters related to the agenda.
Citizens wishing to speak should come to the microphone
or raise their virtual hand.
Once recognized are unmuted.
Please state your full name and address for the record.
To provide equal opportunity.
Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes this evening since we do have the ADD it
added time at the end.
If necessary, the board may set a maximum time
for the public comment portion of this meeting.
Are there any residents or taxpayers who would like to comment at this time?
We'll take those live in the audience first.
Please come to the podium and
state your name and address.
Mike DAVIES
1524 Church Road, Hershey, I'm speaking today, urges full
board to vote no to the current version of the proposed health and safety plan.
The Board administration need to work together to find a plan
to remove the oxygen depriving bass of our children.
I have some information
that's critical to the situation than some compromise to proposal.
Currently, 73% of the population
that resides in the zip code that Derry Township is in
is at least partially vaccinated, which means one shot.
Secondly, the real time PCR test used during this pandemic
is losing its emergency authorization use as of December 31st, 2021.
Right now, class masks do not spread.
Stop the spread of SARS-CoV-2
unless we're going to have the students walk around and 95 mass
wearing them properly
and having them follow hospital precaution procedures, which is impossible.
They do not work.
Fourthly, if Alison Beam didn't have the authority
to demand our kids to wear masks, then where does your authority come from?
All right. Now, the compromises
First, don't lift the mask mandate until January 18th.
Why this gives parents who are COVID sensitive or concerned
the opportunity to get their kids vaccinated and have full protection.
By that point.
Second, keep social distancing at lunches so that contact tracing can be done
and easier, whether that be with QR codes or assigned seatings.
Thirdly, have masks only on in the hallways
where students come within three feet of multiple people.
Just let them take it off in class to be able to see and hear their teachers
as well as taking them off for gym class in physical activity.
The last 20 months
have been very life altering in many ways for most of us.
But let's get the kids back to a normal learning environment.
We know the kids are not the issue when it comes to COVID 19.
They have over a 99.9% recovery rate.
Tests and vaccines are readily available for anyone,
no matter their socioeconomic status.
Please, let's get back to normal.
Thank you.
Any other comments from live attendees?
We will go to our virtual attendees.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Hi. My name is Kathy Burris.
I'm at 163 high point drive
in Hummelstown and
I'm just speaking today regarding
the continuation of the mask mandate.
I've been up here before, spoken
in front of the board before.
I've written many things you obviously know.
I'm very much against it.
I read the survey.
I see that the majority of people in the high school,
in the middle school would like the masks to be
optional.
I think that needs to happen immediately.
I also read a lot of the
comments from the people in our district,
and I'm really disappointed.
In general, with parents in this district
and their continuation of fear and panic,
it's just it's ongoing.
It's in their comments
and we do not need that anymore for our children.
And then I just wanted to speak briefly about my son,
who is in eighth grade, and how this mask mandate has affected him.
He is
we were new to the district last year, so coming into a district
and middle school is a really hard to be on a hybrid schedule.
Getting to know new people, very hard,
wearing a mask, even hurting
my son is a very social boy.
He loves his peers more than anything.
He is not connected
as he should be with new kids in the school district.
And I know a lot of it has to do with this wearing this mask every day.
He has a beautiful smile.
He lights up a room with a smile, and he has
made friends and connections
with teachers at our old school, New York, because of that.
And he was very well-liked here.
I pick him up every day because I don't want him on the bus wearing a mask.
He comes out of the school, his head is down.
He holds his mask like this.
And I know that his day has been hard.
He will. Not
he. Will not go without the mask unless it is optional.
He I have told him.
I said, Karl, I can get you an exemption.
He refuses.
He does not want to go and be the only one who is not wearing a mask.
And this is the kind of thing.
That's going.
On with these. Kids.
Emotionally hurting them.
He has no symptoms of illness.
There's no reason he needs to wear a mask.
So I ask you.
To please reverse this tonight.
No more of this. Thank you. Thank you.
Walter Zidansek, 62 boxwood drive.
You know, I honestly believe that everyone in this room,
and really probably everyone in this, everyone in
in our community really want the same thing.
And that's what's best for our children, our future.
And that is this is the fourth time I have spoken here.
And I will continue speaking here
until we get rid of these masks.
What does the mask really mean?
The mask means that I very active me
breathing is a threat to your life
and the very act of you.
Breathing is a threat to my life.
And when there's a threat to someone's life,
the natural response is to take
action and eliminate that threat.
If that's the case, we don't have a society anymore.
And I am not going to stand by while
those who have been placed in positions of authority
take steps to radically alter society in a way that is harmful.
So what do I mean?
When you go to the airport
on airplanes, you hear about all of this violence there.
There's a lot more violence inside of stores.
People are just more agitated with each other.
There was a video not too long ago where two boys in this school district
thought that it was a good idea to beat the back
of a head of a young man
that has a mental mental disability
and that can kill someone.
That is what this mask does.
It changes the relationship that we all have with each other.
When you look at someone else wearing the mask,
subconsciously you've been
it's been told to you that person is a threat
and the way that you treat them is a little bit less civil.
Some people more than others.
So I offered and I'm going to continue to offer the mask.
Don't work too. That's the other thing.
And I want to be proven wrong.
Proof. Prove to me that the mask works.
And if someone anyone not it, not on the board,
anyone who listening in the community, I don't care.
If you can prove to me that paper or cloth masks
reduces the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus
with a 95% confidence interval, I am more than happy
to purchase
a school lunch for one homeless child for one year.
That's approximately $900, I think $5 for lunch.
I think, you know, whatever.
If it's more, let me know. I'll bump it up.
But if someone can show me that I'm more than happy to do that,
I don't think that you can, because
paper and cloth masks do not work.
So they don't work and they're evil.
For that reason, they need to be eliminated.
Immediately. Thank you. Thank you.
Robert Brett.
1244 Warrenville Road Hummelstown.
Ladies and gentlemen of the school board, I came here tonight to ask you
to make an easy decision.
It's not a hard one.
Vote no to your amended plan.
Please.
Citizens of this country, state and township
have been governed by fear for long enough.
The average life expectancy
expectancy in the United States is 79 years old.
That means that most people in Derry
Township have just spent 5% their lives living in fear
a much longer.
All of you willing to play the game of masking.
A lot of us stopped playing a long time ago, to be quite honest.
But yet we live in this bubble of this school district.
You all live here. You take your mask off. Let's be honest.
Most are.
We refuse to allow fear to control our lives
and surely will not let the fear mongering control our freedoms.
There are so many other things that kill you in this life.
Yet we are so hyper focused on COVID 19
and all the variants that come with it.
I could sit here and stand here and list off all these things that kill us in life.
But we all know things that are more deadly than COVID 19.
We don't have to sit and talk about it.
And I don't have a lot of time.
Now, I can't talk personally.
Tell all of you that you can't leave here tonight and go to McDonald's, correct?
I'm not going to tell you that tomorrow morning.
You have to wake up at 6 a.m.
and hit the gym to better your health,
which are things that are going to help you fight COVID 19.
And nor do I want
to, because that is your choice as a free American.
To me, that is so simple and has been so simple since the beginning.
You are free to make decisions for yourself,
your family, and your children.
I am asking for that same freedom with masking.
It's very simple.
If parents and students choose to wear masks and that is their choice,
no one's going to bully them, at least from not from my family.
That is your choice.
But remember, our freedoms
do not end where your fears begin.
Very simple.
And I hope that you guys prove me wrong tonight
and vote to knock this amendment down.
While it seemed more like a copy and paste from four months ago.
Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.
Hello.
My name's Brian Bolts, one of seven West Covina Road.
I'm here for two issues and I'll save the maximum for a second.
It seems like have a major problem going on in our school right now.
The violence we've had, the fight that happened December 1st
or second in the bathroom, and there was a couple before that.
And the video
on my phone of the one from December 2nd and was horrified when I watched it.
I'm just curious if steps are being taken not only for the people
involved in the fight, but for the people are recording it.
You know, this is a teaching moment.
We need to teach the kids, you know, stand a record of fight.
You go get help.
That's what this world's coming to.
Oh, let's get it on video.
It's not a good thing.
And I know my son's a junior
and I see stuff that goes on in the cafeteria with him
with on on his phone videos, kids sharing stuff on social media.
I mean, I saw some kid dunked into a garbage can.
I mean, is
this what we're teaching our kids in Derry Township School District?
It's just not it's it's not it's not the way
I want to see my child educated for, you know, his future.
Oh, this is how we act.
As to the masks, I'm not a believer.
I haven't been since day one.
My family, we just got back from a cruise.
There was over 5000 people on the ship.
We were test.
We were vaccine, vaccinate, vaccinated.
We were tested on Wednesday and Saturday.
There was not one positive case
when we got off that ship on Sunday morning.
That's 5000 people
not wearing masks, fully vaccinated.
Let the kids be kids.
Let's get back to normal and please vote.
No masks or why don't we follow all the other school districts
in the surrounding areas and go optional?
Give the families some options.
Please make the right decision.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
Okay, let's open it up to virtual.
John.
John Miller, you've been given permission to unmute.
Please state your name and address.
For the record.
Hello, John Miller, 329 Cocoa Avenue.
Yes, we can.
Awesome. Awesome. All right. Thank you very much.
Make it quick,
since I know there might be a few extra people on tonight than normal,
I would like everybody to be cognizant of the fact
that we don't have significant evidence to suggest that masks
do anything in the context of children wearing them in a school
to stop spread of something
that's is going to be here, it will be with us.
It's not going anywhere.
There's multiple vectors is part of life.
All right.
And I think some of the comments that were were made earlier
are just practical in nature.
They're the practical, right.
If you're very if you're really concerned, you still
you could still choose to wear the mask.
I think the optional thing is great.
I think still using some common sense with,
you know, if there are or pinch points or areas where there's a concern, maybe
if it's not mandatory, you might say, hey, this might be a place where we
we may want to I prefer to live on the side of
we are not designed or evolved, however you want to think of it, however you think
we got to this point and the space time continuum we got here without masks.
So I don't know what that does to my kid,
but I know it's not good to have
anoxic conditions where she's
breathing in
humid air all day
having to work harder.
I mean, there's it's a restriction if you if you go out to your car
and just gets a wad of paper towels and stick them or stick
a couple of facemask over your air intake and see what that does, if your car's
computer fuel injection, it'll figure it out.
But it will be sputtering as it's carburetor is is going to choke out
because that's not the way it's designed.
It's supposed to have a certain amount of air in flow and a biological system
like a human cardiovascular systems no different.
So and one more point.
This is a big old experiment.
We don't know that it works.
So it's a test.
It might work. It might not work.
It's well, what if it causes significant damage to a child over the long term?
And it sounds like it's already created a lot of cycle out of school issues.
And that's just because it's fragmenting people, it's dehumanizing people.
And I think that's the point.
I'm not saying that's the point of any or intention of anybody
on the school board, but I believe that that's the intent.
Look up, just type into a search engine
mass formation as four points to mass formation.
This is a psychological theory that
basically of how to to fragment groups and control them.
But real quick, four points to the mass formation.
The mass must feel lone and isolated.
Their lives must feel pointless and meaningless.
The masses will experience constant free floating anxiety.
Look that one up search engine, that one free floating anxiety.
And they must experience free floating anxiety and frustration and aggression.
I mean, I think that that pretty much sums it up.
We've got to heal our community where we are.
We are struggling as a community to find our soul
and and I just really think we can come together.
Sets your any fears and preconceived
notions of anybody or anything aside and move forward.
But but we can't do it by forcing people to mask against their will.
That's that's child abuse.
And even per the Derry Township School District policy, child
abuse is the intentionally or knowingly or recklessly doing any of the following.
And one of those is number eight engaging in any of the following acts,
interfering with the breathing of a child.
e8e of child abuse in our own policy manual shouting abuse.
Please vote to get rid of these masks once and for all.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Jennifer.
You are being given permission to unmute.
Please state your name and address.
For the record.
I Jennifer Casperson 628
Cocoa Avenue, Hershey, Pennsylvania.
I think all of us would agree at this point
that keeping our children in school should be the number one priority.
So if masks become optional and COVID cases
rise, does this threaten in-person learning?
If so, what is the plan?
Do the vaccinated kids like mine get to stay in school?
My children don't complain about wearing a mask,
and I would argue I'm a nurse practitioner.
My husband's a physician.
We have worked his entire pandemic.
Wearing a mask is not child abuse.
If you lift the mask mandate, you need to have a plan in place
to keep our kids in school.
We can all discuss masks as an issue, but not being in
school is a bigger issue, and so that needs to be our priority.
Keeping our children in school.
And I would ask board to have a plan moving forward.
If you remove the mask mandate to keep our children in school.
Thank you.
I don't
see any other hand, so we will move on.
Standing Committee reports the Curriculum Council meeting met today
and there were three courses that were proposed
to be added to the high school curriculum.
The first one is modern and modern innovation,
which is presented by the gifted teacher, a half credit course
that would allow project based course learning of any student
in the high school with priority to upperclassman.
The goal of the class would be to allow students to identify problems
and new solutions or better solutions to existing problems.
It would be a shark tank type idea where students would learn to pitch their ideas,
including financial as well as creative product strategies.
The second course that was approved
also to be moved to the first reading I'm sorry approved.
A move to the first reading is called CCP English
11 EPICS Myths and Legends in Literature.
This would be a one credit course.
We lost a junior level course several years back because the NCAA
did not recognize media studies as an English course.
So we needed an additional course.
And this is the proposal.
It would teach the same skills as other English courses, but the venue would be
through epics, myths and legends, how stories are told along global lines.
It would be an English
requirement to fill an
English requirement or an elective, and it would be
it would leave us with four total college prep options at the junior level.
The third course that was approved to move on to a first
reading is a hack intro to business.
This would be a college in high school course up to offering up to three college
credits for those students who actually registered through Hack.
It would be a half year
course and it would our high school teacher would be
and is an adjunct faculty member, faculty member at Hack.
So they are able to provide this college level course within our own high school.
The only prerequisite for this course would be having taken algebra or geometry,
and students
would have to apply and register through Hack to get the college credits.
The reduced fee of $230 is what the credits would cost.
And then the fourth course that was proposed
was actually an an alteration of a course that is currently in
existence is currently the SWAC course.
The proposals to change it to learning through community service,
it would be a half credit, half year course
for ninth and 10th graders that would be taught live.
They would learn executive
executive functioning skills as well as social emotional learning.
And the that. The.
Other course would be for 11th and 12th graders,
which would actually be continue to be virtual,
discussing, volunteering and reflecting on those volunteer hours,
which would be a half credit course, but for the full year.
So the learning option is for ninth and 10th graders,
whereas the learning through leading would be for 11th and 12th graders.
So that was approved for all to be moved on to a first reading as well.
The next meeting of the Curriculum Council will be on January 10th at 4 p.m..
Anything else you want to add to that, Kip, Mike or Kathy
from today's meeting?
Okay, Wonderful Duty Correspondence Report.
Mrs. Karpel, do you have a report?
I do.
Thank you
for the month.
In November, the district received 24 community correspondence missions.
Some of the comments and questions
from this month included seven questions or concerns related to COVID 19.
One question about a staff member, one question about a school event.
Two questions about using school facilities.
A request for a transcript,
one comment and a question regarding the school board election.
A request for registration information, a concern about school
survey, a question about the website and a question about key.
Some results.
Thank you. Excellent. Thank you.
Student Representatives Report. Mr.
Grant, do you have a report?
Yes, I thank you.
Before I begin this report, I would like to extend sincere
congratulations to the newly elected board members
on behalf of myself and the other representatives
who cannot be here tonight.
We look forward to working with you over the next few months.
Last week, the high school's band, orchestra and choir concert
took place on December 8th.
The students do an amazing job and each group had an incredible performance.
The high school music groups will also be performing during an extended
first period on December 23rd, 11th and 12th.
Graders will be able to sit in the auditorium
and the concert will be livestreamed for ninth and 10th graders.
In addition, we look forward to the middle school music concerts,
which will be occurring next week.
Furthermore, HHS Theater is preparing its
spring musical, which is Beauty and the Beast this year.
The cast list has been announced and practices will begin during this week.
We take this opportunity to congratulate everyone who has been cast.
The annual pre winter break High school volleyball tournament has been rescheduled
for April
before spring
break in order to maximize the number of students involved to COVID 19.
Now addition, the Trojan Trading Post is having a hot chocolate sale
in the mornings from 7:00 to 735 at the high school
leading up to winter break to fundraise for senior scholarships.
On Friday night, many thousand introduces a new event, which is the Winter Fest.
This is the successor to the Fall Fest in November,
and there'll be many activities for families
and students to enjoy, such as cookie decorating, holiday crafts and more.
The cost is currently set at $5 per child and details can be found
on the district website and the mini Thunder on Instagram and Facebook at HHS.
Many thanks. Thank you. Excellent. Thank you very much.
The listed items are on the in his spirit.
January 10th, 2022 Board of Directors Meeting Agenda
Unfinished Business.
Dr. Winslow, we appreciate a pandemic update.
Absolutely.
We did have a pandemic team meeting on December six,
I believe 26 of our 33 team members were there for that meeting.
I appreciate everybody's time that was put into this.
Is Karpel reviewed the results of the survey that we had put out over
Thanksgiving and highlighted that the results are very split,
which you can see on the website.
It's very, very even.
We did break into groups
to review the entire health and safety plan.
All the requirements are through I each group
spent time in a small group session
in a breakout room, going through each of the pieces.
As a result of the breakout room discussions, groups raised concerns
about continuing to contact Trace and potentially having a lot more kids
out of school and in quarantine as a result of removing masks.
It also has a direct implication for our staff who do contact tracing,
and there were concerns about.
Being able to. Hire people to do this.
If we should remove mask before the requirements of contact tracing change,
we are expecting updates on that
within the next couple of weeks.
There were some discussions about middle school Locker policy
going into the winter months and I did explain to the group at that time
that the lunch arrangement has desks in the hallways that block the lockers,
so we can't assign lockers until students can go back to regular
lunch seating.
We did have a lot of discussion around an exit strategy
from specific COVID mitigation measures, such as masking
while still complying with state regulations or just contact tracing.
Really had a lot of time that we talked about that and looking to
figure out our way out.
And there were
concerns raised that it was premature to take the masks. Off.
Until like probably after the holidays or so.
We did have
some other conversation that wasn't necessarily
relevant to the plan itself.
And there were there was a question about do we
track students who are already infected and being reinfected.
And then a.
Another member raised concerns that there really isn't a way to reduce the spread
and it is possible to get infected.
Twice.
So that was just some additional conversation.
The pandemic team we had originally been scheduled to meet monthly through January.
It is evident that we need to continue meeting.
So we did decide that we would continue those meetings through the end of the year
and our next meeting is on January 3rd, at which time
we're hoping to have some additional updates.
Just as a as a quick
overview of the changes in the the plan itself.
In letter A,
we outlined that we would be continuing
to meet on a monthly basis at a minimum,
while the team is aware that we can be called
for an emergency meeting, should there be new information that arises
that would help us to make some different decisions?
We added in Letter B
that the lunches in the elementary and middle school will utilize additional
adjacent spaces the MPR, the LGA and the hallways in order to spaced
six feet apart has made a tremendous difference
in the amount of contact tracing and the amount of spread at school.
And we actually have no spread at school now that we've changed lunches
that we can identify.
And in.
Letter F.
We did
include that the district now has rapid antigen testing for students and staff
who arrive at school and experienced symptoms
and for staff or students identified as close
contacts wishing to have a negative test to return to school.
And we did emphasize in there that no students
will be tested without a signed parental consent.
So there's no testing happening.
Otherwise, the plan stayed pretty much the same
and it is on the agenda for the board to approve
with the understanding that we will look at it again on on January 3rd.
We did want to meet our six month revision
piece.
We did have some request for just information on what
what all has been happening with the different court cases and other
pieces of information that have been coming to us
and we've been trying to communicate that out
to the community is as best of our ability.
But just to give a couple of bullet points on on what we have been working through,
the district did pass a
the health and safety plan with required
masking in early August.
After that, on
August 31st, Acting Secretary of Health Alison Beem issued a universal mask
mandate for schools that became effective on September 7th.
That had little impact on us because we already had this in place.
There was a there were a couple of lawsuits then filed
challenging that order.
And I'm not going to go into the details of those right here
in the initial rulings.
In both cases, the courts found in favor of the districts and the state.
October 4th, 2021, there was a compilation
that our attorneys sent out to us to help us understand that better.
On November 10th, the Commonwealth Court
ruled that the Health Secretary's mandate failed to comply with state law.
Immediately following that ruling,
the governor's office filed an appeal, triggering a stage of the ruling.
So that was a day with a flurry of communiques actions.
And on December eight, the Supreme Court heard arguments
regarding the statewide mask mandate for schools.
December 10th, the Supreme Court vacated the mask mandate,
putting the decision making back on local education agencies,
though there was no explanation of that at this time.
Their arguments have not been released or they
been there has not been released at this point.
We did get a brief update from the Pennsylvania Department of Education.
On. Friday evening helping us to know what was coming next.
It did make sure that everybody was aware that it doesn't impact the federal
directive requiring all passengers and drivers to wear masks on school busses.
That is outside of our jurisdiction.
We don't have anything to do with that until that is lifted
from the federal level.
And it also emphasized that at this time, the elimination of statewide pre-K school
mask requirement does not change how schools respond to COVID 19 cases
in schools, address outbreaks or report data to the Department of Health,
and that we should continue
to refer to the guidance on contact tracing and quarantine.
Which is.
Where we're at at the moment.
We are expecting in the next few weeks updated guidance
from the state on contact tracing and quarantining.
They did not give us a timeline for that.
I'm hoping that it comes prior to. Break.
Or at least prior to the January 3rd meeting, but I don't.
Know.
That for certain.
So that is my pandemic.
Thank you very much, Stacey.
I know this is a lot of information and it really is helpful for us
on the board as well as for the community to hear the real situation of what
what information we have and what we're dealing with.
Thank you.
And then we have next is School Start Times update. Yes.
Okay.
So school start.
Times.
Ms.. Capella, were you able to pull that up?
Just a very brief presentation to walk everyone through.
The last time that
we gave an update was in October and I did.
We had school start times as our community forum
topic in November when folks met with me over Zoom
and the last time we spoke,
we gave just a quick reminder of what we were doing as an administration.
We inherited
the school Start Times initiative and we're working to develop
a school schedule that addresses the impact of adolescent sleep patterns.
We had initially recommended a start time
instructional model on May 26 of 2020,
and in
then, as the pandemic went
on, asked for that to be put on hold because we were doing
all of the pandemic things and not have any opportunity. To.
Work on that schedule.
In October, I came to you and shared
that we were reopening those discussions, had been already talking about it, but
had discovered that that initial proposal
was not going to work anymore.
It eliminated 20 minutes of instructional time in the school day
and it had a transportation turnaround time of 30 minutes
in our
whatever this is right now post COVID area, still trying
to get out of COVID era.
We really don't want to reduce instructional time.
That seems like a really,
really bad idea given what our students have been through.
And with the completion of downtown Hershey
and the uptick in traffic, there's no way we can turn around
transportation 30 minutes.
We need 50 minutes.
So on a regular basis, it takes 50 minutes to do that turnaround.
So what I had shared at that meeting
was that what I would and the board did.
Take away.
The previous approval, giving us the opportunity to continue working
through that.
So through this fall,
we have reopened that discussion at
every meeting we have worked through various
start and end times
and at this point have worked through five different scenarios.
At the beginning of this process, way back in
2018, 2019, there was a
a promise that we would not do just a flip,
just reverse seeing who was starting when.
However, at this point in time,
that's the only scenario we can make work without losing instructional hours
and with the ability to turnaround transportation.
There are several problems with that flip
that had been identified previously and they do continue to exist.
It's a real concern to have elementary students
walking to school in the dark in the winter,
needing to be at bus stops in the dark at 6:45 a.m.,
being dropped off at school as early
as 7:10 p.m.. And.
Waiting in the cafeteria or the MPR for home rooms to be ready to go,
which is what happens with with older kids.
But it's a different scenario and they work with their teachers a lot with that.
Very concerned about secondary student athletes missing
instructional time due to early dismissals with them getting out later,
we have a minimum of about 250 athletes that participate in sports each season.
It's a lot of kids and that's that's another
a lot of instructional time being lost.
Also very concerned about afternoon childcare complications
for elementary parents who currently depend on older children
to watch younger children or to receive younger children from vans and busses.
And we know that a lot of our high school students are the ones
that are getting their their siblings
off the bus or off the vans if they have special education needs.
And there's also just the unintended consequences of morning care versus
after school care, a post-COVID concern that things are just not the same
and there's really already been so much upheaval and change.
We're also troubled by a one size fits all approach.
One of the things that we've really been
trying to do over the years is to differentiate and to create flexible
learning environments, especially for high school students.
And while this may work very well for some families and some kids, it's
it doesn't seem like it's going to work well for all families and all kids.
But I'm very cognizant of the fact that the mental load
and stress on parents for the last 20 to 21 months has just been brutal
and suggesting this level
of additional change and upheaval
no longer feels like the right thing to do.
So at this point, our recommendation
and truly, after intensive investigation
and discussion, we have really, really run this out.
And I did not like coming back with this information
this way, but it is it's where we're at.
So our recommendation is that at this point,
the change of school start times is a tabled topic
and if at some point down the road three or four years,
it looks like this is a really good time to to revisit this and we would like to
then bring it back to you with a new plan for how to investigate it.
But at this point in time, we really feel that
when that time comes, we would need to reconvene the school
Start Times Committee to get people back involved, get stakeholders input again,
and and really start from the beginning
because it's just a different scenario now than what it was before.
And so
that is that is where we were at with that.
And I know that I did say we would do a community survey.
I hated to put out a community survey with something that we had promised
wouldn't be the scenario.
So I'm bringing it here with that recommendation
and I'm happy to answer any questions that you have at this time with that,
I just would start by saying thank you,
because that clearly is an exhaustive
look into all the different options.
So we appreciate
the time that you put into that to make sure that it was comprehensive.
So thank you.
But I know I have no questions.
Anybody any questions?
Okay.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Stacy.
All consent agenda items.
The consent agenda contains routinely adopted items and items
that normally do not require public deliberations on the part of the board
or board member may pull items
which will then be discussed and voted on separately, may have a motion to approve
the consent and giant agenda items as listed so moved.
Cathy Zika.
Second, Lindsey Drew is there any discussion?
This is a standard voice vote all in favor.
Say I all oppose say no
motion pass.
Okay.
New business K iu delegate assignment Xiu delegate assignment is available.
Maybe volunteer for this assignment? Yes.
Erica Schmitt.
I can do that.
She may have a motion to approve any other any other volunteers.
May I have a motion
to approve Erica Schmidt for the CIU delegate assignment?
So move to Kathy Zipper second.
Maria Mimi, is there any discussion?
Thank you, Erika, for doing that.
It's an important assignment and it's a drive and a commitment,
but I really appreciate you stepping up.
Agreed.
This is a standard voice vote.
All in favor.
Say I are opposed. Say no.
Motion carries
Derry Township Tax Collection Association Budget 2022.
Approval of the Derry Township Tax and Association Budget. Dr.
Winslow The administration recommends the board approve the 2022 budget
for the Derry Township tax Collection Association, with $395,530
in total expense and $156,000 in contributions from the district
may have a motion to approve the Derry Township Tax Collection
Collection Association budget.
So move Lindsay Drew second.
Miriam Amie, is there any discussion?
This is a standard voice vote.
All in favor. Say we. Are.
All opposed.
Say no Motion carries Act one Proposed preliminary budget.
Preliminary budget resolution. Dr.
Winslow The administration recommends the board approve the resolution to limit
the increase of real estate taxes for the 2022 2023 fiscal year
to no more than 3.4% may have a motion to approve the Act.
One proposed preliminary budget Resolution 2022
2023 so moved Kathy
Second, Lyndsey Drew, is there any discussion?
This is a standard voice vote all in favor say aye, I, I all oppose.
Say no.
The motion carries.
The Human Resources Committee recommends the board appoint Mrs.
Cheryl Purcell to the position of business manager for Derry Township
School District effective January 3rd, 2022 through June 30th, 2025.
Pending certifications may have a motion to approve
the business manager's contract, so move Lindsey drew second.
Kathy Decker. Is there any discussion?
I would just like to to welcome Mrs.
Purcell and say that as part of the interview committee that went through
this process, it was
it's always interesting to to get to go through these,
you know, various interviews, you know, for different positions.
But Mrs.
Pursell really stuck out to me as someone that I think brings a wealth of knowledge
and I think we'll be just
a great fit for for this district and I'm looking forward to the opportunity
to work with her and I just would like to say welcome and.
I'm excited to.
To vote in favor of. This.
And I just want to thank the H.R.
committee for the hours they put into the interview process.
Much appreciate it.
This is Kathy Stickler.
I'd also like to reiterate what Lindsey said.
Welcome to the district, Cheryl, and it was a pleasure
getting to know you to the interview project process.
And you definitely stood out as a very high qualified candidate
and looking forward to working with you and on the Finance Committee
and everything else.
Maybe Cheryl would like to waive she is back there.
Anybody can see her.
Excellent.
Mrs. Agee, This is a roll call vote.
Mr.. Yes, Mrs.
Mamie? Yes, Mr. Rizzo. Yes.
Mrs. Schmitt.
Yes, Dr. Shore. Yes.
Mrs. Dicker?
Yes, Mr. Singer? Yes.
Mr. Bennett?
Yes. Dr. KERNAN. Yes.
Nine. Yes.
Motion Carries Revised Health and Safety Plan.
Dr. Winslow.
The Administration recommends the approval of the revised Health and Safety
Plan, Guidance and template
may have a motion
to approve the revised Health and Safety Plan guidance and template.
So move Lindsey to second.
Maria Mimi is there any discussion?
Yes, Madam Chairman.
Keep sure
that the timeline of of
the events related to the
Pennsylvania mask mandate and it's overturned by the Supreme Court
are unfortunate for everyone involved in this meeting, but extremely important.
So just to review, the pandemic planning team
last met on the 6th of December.
At that time, Supreme Court or at that time the Supreme Court
had not ruled and the mask mandate was enforced.
On Friday, the Supreme Court then voided that.
And so we're left with now a situation where
it it the mask media has been voided.
But the pandemic planning team hasn't been able to
to meet yet the changes that are
to the health and safety plan that are on the agenda tonight.
They they reflect things that we're already doing.
These are things that have have come
in to our processes and plans,
and that needs to be approved because we're already doing them.
Here's the timeline and so forth.
And this is important.
Next Pandemic planning team meeting will be
January 3rd.
Provisions of that meeting will then go to agenda
planning on the fifth and the board will vote on January 10th,
barring some change
in circumstances, significant change at that time.
I'll be I will be voting for mask optional.
Now part of the issue has been the contact
tracing and this timeline.
The forward part of the timeline gives not only the state,
but gives the administration and the staff in the school a good, solid
three weeks to figure out the contract tracing so that it doesn't
it doesn't squash the in-person education so that we can accomplish both.
We can go to masks optional and also make sure that we keep the schools open.
So from my perspective, that's the timeline.
Thank you, Dr.
SHAW This is Donna Cronin.
My comments are, as part of the pandemic team,
one of my goals, which I believe is shared amongst the group,
is that the primary responsibility is to keep kids in school.
I at the pandemic team meeting on December six,
I did state that I am very interested in coming up, you know, having our group
address and exit strategy for masks that not only can address the contract
tracing, as Dr.
Scholl stated, to reflect any changes from PD or to give the district
time to make sure that we can do whatever we're supposed to do
that allows for contact tracing and quarantining to minimize
any kid from from having to be not in school.
I will be approving this health and safety plan because, as Dr.
Schall stated,
it allows us
it does include that
we will be meeting monthly at least as well as emergency meetings
that the lunches have been changed, which have allowed six feet of distance
to the elementary school, which has greatly decreased the
COVID cases in those buildings, and that it also reflects
that rapid tests are now available.
So those things that we have been doing, I think are critical to approving
this pandemic recommendation for the health and safety plan, as is.
But like Dr.
Scholl, I am looking forward to the pandemic team
meeting again and to determining what our exit strategy
is and for the district to have time to make sure we do it right
and allow for students to not be kicked out of school
because of contact tracing or quarantining.
But but I'm all for an exit strategy.
Thank you,
Robert Bennett.
I agree that this needs to go to mass optional at some point.
And I think if we leave open ended deadlines of you'll work on it
next meeting.
That becomes the next meeting.
So I will not support anything.
It doesn't have a deadline to work to.
So that's why at this point I'm going to amend
make a motion to amend this health and safety plan to add
that we will be going mask optional on January 11th.
That will give you opportunity
to put whatever safeguards you need during the next pandemic meeting.
And we now have an end to this and a goal so everything can be made
as needed to keep the kids in school.
But we also lose the mask with actual date.
Okay, so we have emotional weight.
We need to second on that in a second on that motion.
A second.
Eric Schmitt So the motion is to
attend the health
and safety plan to include a date
whereby masks would be
optional on January 11th.
And is there any
do you want to include any verbiage
similar to what Kip stated about
pending other like what if something changes or you know,
there will be lots we'd be locked into that.
Whether that's why we have a meeting in between.
We can make any adjustments we need on January 10th.
So we're so we have an emotion.
We have an emotion now to attend, to make an addendum to the health
and safety plan to include.
I'm sorry, you can now have.
And so we now can have a discussion on that.
The motion as made. On the motion as Nate. Thank you.
My only concern with the
January 11 date is that any action we would take
So the pandemic team is to meet on January 3rd and discuss that.
And the process has been that the pandemic meets
and with the administration that makes the recommendation to the board.
So the board would be voting on January 10th
for anything that would change for the 11.
That doesn't really allow any time for
any type of change to be implemented,
for district wide communications to be done.
And I feel would kind of throw logistically things into an issue.
So while I agree that we need to start looking forward
and how we move from this,
I just don't feel that we're in a position to do that today
and that our commitment to the pandemic team,
you know, next meeting and looking at a revision
or discussion on January 10th is the next appropriate step.
Any other discussion?
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why
we can't meet the pandemic team can't meet before January 3rd.
That would seem to make sense.
This is
I can address that question.
The right now we don't have any new information
to take up to the pandemic team to make a different decision.
And I would also suggest that
if the board is going to
change the health and safety plan this evening,
that disregards the 30 people who have been giving their time
for the last six months to help make these decisions,
and if that's the way we're going to move, then I won't pull
that team together anymore because they're not needed.
If this board is going to make those decisions.
So I think we need to make a decision about whether or not
you want stakeholder input through that committee or not.
But we do have new information
the mask mandate by the state have been lifted, but.
We don't have new contact tracing information yet.
So nothing really changes
as far as what we need to do in order to follow through with that.
And our decision to require masks was done prior to any mandate being in place.
So it was not contingent upon that.
But that has.
Been it is a significant new piece of information
the state has done away with the mask mandate
that is significant new information, contact tracing.
While intertwined with all of this, of course, is
is a separate piece of information.
Along with the fact that.
We. Now all of everybody has had the opportunity to be vaccinated.
So that isn't new information.
And I would think that.
The. Pandemic team is
responsible to get together to figure out how to make this work.
There are other school districts Lower Dauphin, Elizabeth
Town, Middletown Palmyra that are all mask optional.
So I would think that we'd want to contact them and see what they're doing.
I have spoken to them.
Okay, We talk all the time and Lord often is the only mask optional?
The secondary, not the elementary.
So I think that's another piece of the discussion
because I don't think that all elementary children
have had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated at this point.
And in talking with Dr.
Cutler today,
they're going to spend all of their time in contact tracing
because they still have to contact, Trace and report back to the DEO age
until that new information comes from them on how we can change that.
And we are expecting that.
And I would if I'm going to pull people together
and ask them to leave work early and give up their time,
I would like to have the full information for them to work with.
Not just
that the mandate has been vacated.
But we don't even know.
You know, the different pieces to that yet or what the next steps are going to be.
So we're we are waiting for new information that was shared
with us at our superintendents meeting last week from the Department of Health
and PD that they are going to be updating the contact, tracing information.
And if I can pull people together after we get that, then we can make
a really good decision based on that and be ready to handle it as a district.
I will say that at this time,
without that being changed with the contact tracing
and we are required to do that, it is all we will do
and it's exhausting.
And and by the end of September, some of our nurses had tapped out
because it's it's not people don't tell you.
At. 3:00 in the afternoon that they're sick.
They tell you at 9:00 at night and they tell you at 6:00 in the morning.
So I would be fully prepared to amend this yet again on January 10th
if there's some new information comes by
that this should then be pushed to the next meeting.
But these open ended date deadlines where know they keep going to
if we don't do have a deadline now,
it will be pushed to the 10th and then will be pushed to the next meeting.
And it's in two week increments.
And this is exactly what happened when the schools were closed down.
It keeps getting kicked down the road.
So without some kind of deadline, this is never going to end.
No, I think the pandemic Committee
meets again before our next board meeting.
If this gives them a goal to work to the.
Goal of mass optional.
So they can make a decision then based on new information to make a change
to the plan that could go into effect on, I guess, January 10th.
We'd be voting on January ten.
So this is Donna Karan.
So, Stacy, just to make just for point of order,
just to make sure
I'm clear, it's understood that the pandemic team meeting on January
3rd is to address any new information we have, including
the fact that the mandate has been deemed as unenforceable
so that mask decisions now come to the local government, which is us.
So is it understood or do we have to do anything
to make sure the pandemic means whenever they meet next,
whether it be before or by January 3rd, that we want an updated
recommendation, given the new information for the January 10th board meeting.
I think there's an understanding that at that January 3rd meeting will be re
addressing those issues.
So does that does that satisfy your need for a deadline that.
That doesn't just a guarantee that there might it by amending this by amending this
order, it guarantees that it puts kind of their feet to the fire.
They're gonna make decision based on contact tracing and these other issues.
It makes it more of a hard deadline where it does
give it much wiggle room to do something else.
I would just argue that we don't need to meet
if that's what you're going to put in here.
No, I'm confused of what your saying.
I think I'm misunderstood.
So if you want to put in a deadline for them to give us a recommendation,
which I think is what I'm saying is understood by January 3rd,
want them at the pandemic team
to give us their updated recommendation, which we vote on on January 10th.
Correct.
On how to go mass optional on the 11th.
Right.
So you're not allowing the pandemic team to make a decision.
You're making the decision for them.
But there'll be mass.
Contact tracing and these other things sitting here
like I'm not going to be making this making motions
to attend some of the stuff in here that we don't have it to.
What I'm saying it gives a deadline for mass optional.
I this is Cathy sticker.
I can't support your because it doesn't make sense.
I'd be happy to.
I mean, if you would.
Like it it doesn't mean other things
because we have a process in place with a pandemic team.
They're going to meet with 30 people.
We have doctors, epidemiologists, parents, board members.
We've been meeting and we need to revisit any new information about contact tracing
if we still to contact Trace, we cannot remove the masks
because we will have 200 400 kids out on close contact quarantined,
and we will have to hire more staff to contact Trace that we're stuck right now.
So I understand we're all sick of it, but there is no deadline right now.
There's a reevaluation every four weeks.
What it is.
That's the.
Loan.
And I want to just make a point
that the pandemic team will make their recommendation.
But I don't think it's I think it's premature to say that
if there is contact tracing that we that there's no other option,
because I think our job and our charge to the pandemic team
is to come up with an exit strategy, regardless of what, as Kip said,
regardless of what changes with the with the contact tracing,
we need to side on the masking and then whatever we decide is right with masking.
Then we determine how we handle contact tracing and quarantining
in light of whatever the PD says.
But I was at the pandemic team that one one right leads to the
I was at the pandemic team
and you were the only member who kept talking about an exit strategy.
Nobody else did.
Everybody else was agreeable to the plan that the pandemic team meets every month.
So once again, just because you think we should do it and 29 did it pass?
Cathy I just expressed my opinion
during the pandemic team to have an exit strategy.
Nothing changed on the health and plan, but I shared my opinion
and not everybody's role on the pandemic team.
And they will meet.
Everyone's got an exit strategy, yes,
but I can still say that I want to have an exit strategy
and the pandemic team doesn't have to recommend one,
but it doesn't take away
any of our ability to voice that we would like an exit strategy.
It didn't a timeframe on it.
And all I'm saying is that on the January 3rd meeting,
we're asking them to readjust, readdress it,
but I don't believe we can tell them what least.
I can't support telling the pandemic team. They have to
remove masks on the 10th.
But that's my my opinion is that's what I will be recommending from one person.
And I'm hopeful that the pandemic team
will will have an exit strategy based on this new information.
But we can't really tell them how to how to recommend it.
But we can tell them about January 10th.
We want to vote on a new recommendation.
At that point, we can either vote to agree
or not to agree, depending on what they say.
I don't know what they'll say, but I know as one person
I am going to be asking for an exit strategy.
That may not be the recommendation, but it might be.
And then we get to that.
Also, we do have a deadline of January 10th
to reach a vote on whether or not we want to go
with what the pandemic team says, which we don't know what that is yet.
And if we need to have the pandemic meet sooner because there's new information,
I fully support pulling the group together if we're able.
So we can make sure that they're clear on what information
we think has to be considered.
Does the pandemic team consider transmission rates and positivity rates?
Is that I haven't heard that mentioned tonight.
There's no there's no there's only recommendations on transmission rates,
but there's no specific guidance on what we have to do to the pandemic team.
A lot of liberties.
I mean, they are they receiving data?
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
What is that data?
What is that data saying?
At this point, I think. We have 17 cases.
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about.
Them saying this is what they do currently.
And I look this up because we did not meet regularly as a pandemic team and,
have the ability to have input in these conversations at this time last year.
But on December 18th, in 2020, Mr.
Macfarlane provided us an update.
At the time we were trying to figure out we were currently fully virtual
and we were looking to try to bring the kids back at least hybrid in January.
At that time in our local data for the 17033 and 17036 zip codes,
we were at 27.1% positivity with the incidence
occurrence rate of 355 per 1000 as of December 13th.
On Friday we had 56.96% positivity and 337.
So virtually the same in incidence rate.
But the positivity was double those things that are discussed at the pandemic team.
And we also look at what the total number of cases are.
Currently, Hershey High School has highest number of cases
reported that they've had since the school came back.
So for all of us to sit around here and put these arbitrary deadlines
on something and completely throw out
the recommendations of the pandemic team
on January 3rd with with some other deadline is just
completely inappropriate and puts that power into our hands
instead of looking at the recommendation that's coming from people who are doing
this. We've heard from pediatricians.
We can talk to all of the other school districts, but they're all different.
Everyone has different things.
We're fortunate enough to live in a community that is a medical community,
and we've heard from a vast of physicians who do this on a day to day basis
and are practicing with COVID
in hospitals right now with patients.
And they are asking us to keep masks in place for right now.
We made a commitment that we want kids in school
and if masks keep them in school because we don't know what the contact
tracing changes are going to be or when that's going to happen
and whether or not there are vaccines and the contact tracing,
who has to quarantine
and who doesn't, that doesn't change the need for contact tracing.
But we can't make that contingent upon those things.
And so it is just entirely too premature for us as a board
to commit to something or to just completely throw,
you know,
the science and the information behind it.
And Throw out our commitment
to keeping kids in school, because if we go mask optional, they can't do it.
And at the pandemic time, we heard teachers tell us that
if masks were to go optional, that would change the way
that they're delivering instruction, because currently with the masks,
we can't get the distance between the kids in a lot of the classrooms.
And so it would change the way
it would change some of that normalcy that we've been able to achieve.
It would take that away because then they would have to go,
you know, to something that is a bit more cautious in the approach.
So having this conversation
right now just seems completely premature.
This think premature about this conversation.
This conversation is what needs to happen right now.
The I mean.
I keep even
you're saying that I can't believe that you're wanting to deny this.
I am.
I'm glad that you wanted to come in here and get rid of mass.
I know you don't like masks. None of us like mask.
We want kids in school.
I heard you speak to this board.
We're asking.
Our opinions have to be respectful.
We have different opinions, and I respect everyone's opinion.
But please do it in a respect.
Misjudgment.
I heard you say in the spring you wanted the kids in school.
Today, the contact tracing guidelines dictate
that there are quarantine requirement.
And so if a student is contact trace, because those masks are off
and those contact tracing guidelines haven't, we're sending those kids home.
You're vaccinated now.
We don't know how many students are vaccinated.
Well, let's find out, shall we?
I'd like to make a point because I believe we're getting off track.
Because the bottom line is none of us here individually
will be making the decision. We are.
We are We have the pandemic team
that will make a recommendation and then we can vote it on it.
So any our individual feelings are important when we make the vote
on the 10th.
But the pandemic team is the one who makes the decision.
And I believe that there is a wide enough
group of people that are on that to consider all options.
We have teachers that want masks, don't want masks.
We have community members that don't want masks. At what mask?
The bottom line is the process is for the pandemic team to make the recommendation.
And at that point, we will be what we are able to vote on it.
Yes or no.
Now, does that satisfy a deadline
knowing that we will have a vote on December 10th to go?
What depending on what the pandemic team says as mask optional or mask not,
we don't know what it will be, and I'd like to give them that opportunity.
But I want you to be comfortable with the January 10th deadline of having a
a new recommend, you know, an updated recommendation.
We can't predetermine what that.
We don't know what was and did not whatever they were saying
but we know that we're going to be a team is meeting and they will give us
a new recommendation to either be the same or to change it.
And can we give that January 10th as that deadline satisfy your need for a deadline
to then be able to vote, whether you agree with it or not.
Help with an outcome like I'm prepared to give the decision back to the parents.
You know, it's to them it's optional, not mask eliminated.
So if a parent wants to have their kid wear no man.
Right.
Exact math to mask a hazmat suit, I fully support that.
I'm prepared
to put it back in the parents, let them decide where they come to school.
So mask that mask eliminated. Right.
But that's fine if everyone's not in the mask.
So Mask optional takes.
The pandemic team needs to work on that.
And that's my whole point, too.
With a deadline that keeps them on track.
Okay, so what's
so so we we can we can vote on the motion
to attend the this health and safety plan to.
But your wording is that that that it will be mask optional on January 10th.
You're not happy with just saying that January 10th we will have
a new recommendation to vote on.
If the motion goes in it, it doesn't pass, so be it.
But the motions on the floor. Okay. All right.
So so the motion is to approve the revised
safety plan guidance with the addendum to attend it to reflect
that we would have a by January 11th we would be able to go mask optional.
Is that the wording of your. Yes.
Yes. Okay. All right.
Okay.
So we'll do a roll call vote on approving the addendum
to go
I'm sorry the amendment a met thank you.
The amendment on the health and safety plan to include a January 11th
mask optional component.
Right.
Mrs. Mary? No.
Mr. Rizzo. No.
Mr. Schmitt.
Yes, Dr.
Shaw? No.
Mrs. Decker. No.
Mr. Singer? No.
Mr. Bennett. Yes.
Dr. Cronan.
Now, Mr. No.
Two. Yes.
Seven. No.
Thank you.
Okay,
so now we will make a motion to approve the revised Health and Safety
Plan Guidance and template as written as submitted by the Pandemic team
from their meeting on December 6th.
They have a motion
to approve the health and safety plan as it's so moved.
Maria Memo.
Thank you.
Second lunchroom.
Is there any discussion?
Not belabor but but Donna Cronin
I just want to state that my expectation is that if we need those changes
that I trust and Stacy will call the pandemic team together
and that they can look at new information because on
at least by January 10th, I want to be able to vote on a plan and
my stance with the pandemic team will remain.
But I want an exit strategy
as part of their recommendation.
And we'll see what their recommendation is.
But at least by January 10th, we can vote on what that is.
Ted, Dr. Windsor, this is Lindsay. Due to Dr.
Winslow's point.
I guess I would just ask board members that if there is
commitment to as individuals, that
regardless of what the pandemic team
recommends for the January 10th meeting, if you're planning,
you know that mass optional is the way that it has to go, then it would be great
to hear that because as a member of the pandemic team, it to Dr.
Winslow's point,
it really doesn't make sense to continue meeting as a pandemic team
if this board has a commitment to mass optional
January 10th, regardless of what the pandemic team recommends.
But isn't the job of
the pandemic team to come up with a way to make this work?
Yeah, we just I think our vote just spoke to how we felt about it.
We were seven no's and two. Yeah.
So but what I'm saying is the pandemic team could on January 3rd
recommend a plan to the board on January
ten to continue with masking
if this board is going to decide that regardless that masks you know
do want we just voted that we're putting a deadline
for January 11th out there ahead of the pandemic team.
But I'm just asking for the reinforcement
of if there is a commitment that regardless of what is
recommended by the administration and the pandemic team
following the January 3rd meeting that we put that out there
so that people know, you know, what what the expectation is going to be,
because otherwise the entire community, this whole board, the pandemic team,
the administration, 3500 students and all 500 and some of our staff
are going have to go through this again in three and a half weeks.
After we finish, we go complete the vote.
On the new.
So, so, so duly noted.
But I believe as pandemic representatives Kip, myself, Kathy and Lindsey,
it's imperative of us as being representatives of the pandemic
that we get a sense of what everybody what everyone thinks.
And I will certainly as my part, represent all of our individual and collective
opinions at the pandemic team meeting, even though we're each only one person.
But we will certainly share what this what the board feels,
And I think that's important is our representation of the board
to make sure the pandemic team is aware of how we're feeling.
And you guys can share that with individually or as a group or whatever.
But I think that's part of our role on the pandemic team.
But I don't think we can assume
how we're going to vote until we see what they're recommendation is, if able.
I want to call the question on this. I want to vote now.
Okay.
So we're now voting on the revised health and safety plan guidance
as written as presented.
We'll do a roll call vote. Osagie.
Mr. Rizzo. Yes.
Mr.. SCHMITT.
Yes. Dr. Shore. Yes.
Mrs. DICKER. Yes.
Mr. Singer.
Yes. Mr.
BENNETT. No.
Dr. CRONAN Yes.
Ms.. Drew. Yes.
Mrs. Manning. Yes.
Eight. Yes.
One of those personnel resignations.
Dr. Winslow.
The Administration recommends the approval of the personnel resignations.
I have a motion to approve the personnel resignations.
So moved Maria My second.
Mike Rizzo. Is there any discussion?
This is standard voice vote.
All in favor.
Say I also say no
personnel.
General, the administration recommends the approval.
They listed personnel and recognition of any
concerns. You have personnel.
General Dr.
Winslow, the administration recommends the approval of the listed
personnel and recognition of any listed transfers.
Thank you.
Made a motion to approve the list of personnel
and recognition of any list of transfers. So move. Lindsey drew.
Second.
Mike Rizzo. Is there any discussion?
This is standard voice vote all in favor.
Say I all oppose say no.
Motion carries
a delegate reports SBA report is attached.
There's nothing I have to add.
Hap report is attached. Dr.
Shawl, do you have anything you'd like to add?
Nothing to add to the report that was in your board.
Brief. Excellent.
Are there any board members who would like to give a report?
Dr. Winslow, to the superintendent's report?
I do. Thank you.
Had the opportunity to attend the high school winter concert last week
is fantastic to have live performances again and the music was fabulous.
I am forever amazed at the level of talent that our students have
and the phenomenal skill that they acquire under the direction of their teachers.
It was it was wonderful.
And my my even my husband was like, that was awesome.
I really like the strings the best, which is not a thing he's ever said before.
So that was great.
I am delighted to welcome Cheryl Purcell to our team and look forward to her
joining us next month as the next business manager.
While also sad to see Mr.
Friends leaving as he gets ready to head off to Palmyra
tomorrow and Thursday are the middle school music Ensemble concerts,
choir and orchestra tomorrow and band is on Thursday and Monday.
The 20th is the elementary concert for our our sixth grade orchestra.
It is the first time that they will have ever performed together as an ensemble
because they were not able to perform together last year.
So it's really exciting for them to be able to be together.
And winter sports are in full swing this week.
We have basketball, wrestling and swimming all throughout the week,
and I'm really looking forward to attending some upcoming events.
And. That concludes my report.
Thank you. Thank you. Stacey Ward Presents Report.
I just want to thank everyone in attendance,
both virtually, and live for taking the time
to be a part of this critically important discussion, as well
as all those individuals who submitted community correspondence report
submissions to share with us their opinions and
and feelings about this issue.
We take it all very seriously and we really want to be partners with you
in coming up with the right solutions.
And I thank the pandemic team in advance for their
for their continued work recognitions and citizens.
This is an opportunity for residents and taxpayers
to address the board on matters related to the agenda,
which are matters of district governance. And it's not on the agenda.
Those who speak are asked the following to follow the same guidelines outlined
at the initial public comment portion of our meeting.
Are there any residents or taxpayers?
I would like to comment at this time and we'll first go to the live audience.
Walters Lenski, 62, boxwood drive.
When I was speaking earlier, I neglected to give out my phone number again.
So, again, my challenge is this For those who are here in the audience
or new board members or anyone that's listening online that has not heard this.
So I do not believe that a paper or cloth mask
will offer protection against the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
I'd like to be proven wrong because that's what education is all about.
Education is all about having an open mind
and being willing to be to be proven wrong.
So if anyone in the community
can provide me with a study experiment showing
that paper and cloth masks reduce the community
spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus with a 95% confidence interval,
I'll even I'll I'll even go down to 90 90% confidence interval.
That's not hard to that's not a hard threshold
to to surpass 90% confidence interval.
If someone do that, then I will happily
write a check to the school district
representing the cost of that for one homeless child
to have lunch for an entire school year, which I estimate is around $900.
If it's more or less, let me know and I'll bump it up.
So that's that.
My phone number is Eric Code
3107558911.
Or you can come and see me at 62 boxwood drive.
So that is the first point.
As for keeping kids in school, this seems really, really easy for me.
This is not the first year
or the second year or even the third year
that there has been public education in this country.
There.
This is also not the first year, second year, third year.
The people have gotten sick.
People got sick when they started having school way, way, way back when.
And when they got sick, they didn't go to school.
That's the answer.
If you are sick, you stay home until you are well.
If you are feeling sick, you stay home.
It's really that simple.
Please don't make this any more complicated than it needs to be.
And the third point is the nine of you were elected
the pandemic response team.
They were not elected.
Their job is to advise
whatever their recommendation is.
If their recommendation is, Hey, mass or mass or terrible.
No mass.
And then you guys want mass.
Well, guess you guys were elected.
So that means we have mask.
The opposite is true.
If they love mass and you hate mass, too bad you were elected.
You get to vote.
So please do not point your responsibility
to these unnamed people on this pandemic response team.
I am glad that they are serving community and I applaud them for that.
But you are the ones that were elected.
Thank you. Thank you.
Nobody else in the live audience.
Brian Bolts 107 West Governor Road,
very disappointed tonight
Mass don't work.
It was proven to me this past week
masks my mask protects me
your mask protects you if you feel your
kids get sick.
Kudos to your comment.
100 contact tracing.
My son gets sick.
I don't have a problem. Quarantine.
Let's let the kids be kids.
The pandemic team, the doctors.
How are they selected?
Really handpicked.
And we pull some doctors from different areas.
So we're seeing our doctors.
I'm sure all the schools have pandemic teams, Right.
Or committee and I'm sure doctors on those committees.
So we're saying our doctors are more are more qualified
than the doctors at annual clinic at Cedar Crest in Middletown.
Lower Dauphin.
I don't think it's right,
Doctor.
A doctor, in my opinion,
if I'm dying and down at Hillcrest High School
and there's a doctor that says, You can save my life, I'm gonna Wait, wait.
Taking the Hershey,
They're qualified doctors everywhere.
These schools made a decision in 24 to 48 hours.
Now we're going to drag this out another 30 days, 45 days, 60 days.
It's not fair to the children anymore.
And something else I forgot to address
with the fighting in the school,
the kid was brought to my attention that the children, the kids in school
are only allowed to use the restroom now, 10 minutes before I'm
sorry, 10 minutes to the start of class and 10 minutes at the end of class.
I mean, who is the authority to make that decision when the
kids can go to the bathroom?
And I'm just curious.
I mean, I think that needs to be addressed.
A kid should be able to go to the bathroom.
My son should be able to go to the bathroom
26 minutes into the period if he has to.
He wasn't fighting.
He doesn't deserve bad consequence from that.
And neither does your child or your child or your child.
I mean, things need to address This is as it seems like
I don't even know how to state it.
Make the rules up as we go.
It's not fair.
I do thank everybody for serving on the board.
I know it's a tough time, tough situations, but it's very disappointing.
I can't go Mask optional. Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes, please.
Robert Brookfield 1244 Walton Mill Road.
I would like to thank you two for actually bringing up an exit strategy.
I think it's very forward thinking to think we're actually going
to get out of this thing at some point in our lives.
Mrs. Drew,
I don't know any of you, but you made the comment and spit
you spit facts to all of us
that cases are higher now than they were 2.6 months ago, year ago.
I don't have my dates right on that, but I want you to think about what you said.
Really think about it.
It doesn't work. It's so simple.
If things don't work, we change.
This is abuse.
Bottom line, it's abuse.
We're not all going to agree on things.
We have to get back to normal.
Things aren't working.
If you're thinking, If it worked, let's go with it.
But it's not working. We're two years into this pandemic.
All but two years.
It's time to step up and lead on one step up and lead pandemic team.
Great.
I understand that you're going to put a team of doctors.
We are in a bubble in Derry Township, and I understand that.
And I'm I understand we have a lot of medical professionals.
There's 24,000 residents in this township.
Guess how many are doctors? Not that many.
There's other professions that are important in this township.
All of you are important.
We all have traits.
The medical field is a trade,
It's an opinion.
And I don't want to say there's groupthink that goes on, but I'm sure there is.
That's how every profession works.
It sounds like we're sitting here talking about dates
or when we're going to take this mask off and the world is going to be saved.
We have to move on. It's time to move on.
I appreciate you want to move forward.
Let's move forward.
Thank you.
Oh, yes.
Mike DAVIES, 1524 Church Road, Hershey.
During the last and this one, two topics
were mentioned by multiple board members, including Mr.
Singer.
Number one is transparency, and number two is conflict of interest
and ethical standards.
I want to take a couple of minutes to review
what the Derry Township School Code, local board procedures
and board government standards slash code of conduct says about these topics.
First, in Section one, recognizing each school
director of the board is carrying out their duties under close public scrutiny.
Each school director of the Board shall
Subsection A
the highest of ethical and professional conduct
and performance of their duties, and shall treat others with dignity and respect.
Issue any behaviors such as bullying, harassment, intimidation.
Couple subsections down and ask goes on saying avoid being placed in a position
of conflict of interest and refrain
from using the board position for personal or personal gain.
Under our code, Partizan means
to strongly support one side party or person.
Now that we've had our civics lesson for a day in local government,
I stand here today not only as a citizen and taxpayer of Derry Township,
but as a voice within the community to call for the immediate resignation
or removal of Terri Singer as school board director for the following three reasons
one F of contact conduct detrimental to the district
and advancement of the skating rink on Derry Township School property
without proper studies, public disclosure or transparency or public discussion.
This rink got so far without public disclosure that it took a turn.
Citizen
dismissed Freedom of Information Act requests to the district
to obtain the information and piece it together
in order to bring the information to the public
that they would have a glimpse into what actually happened behind the curtain.
Number Two Acting in a partizan manner towards Joy, a sports foundation.
During the discussion on the Memorandum of Understanding between the Joy
Sports Foundation and Derry Township School District, it became obvious Mr.
Singer had abused his power as school director
to move the project forward to the point of a vote.
When the citizens of Derry Township brought the information forward.
It made the school administration, Mrs.
Winslow and multiple sitting board members, including at the time,
Vice Premier's
president, many very uncomfortable with moving forward with the project
without proper information. Studies.
Thirdly, acting against board policy procedures, subsection 011
never using the position and for improper benefit to suffer others
and acting to avoid actual and perceived conflicts of interest.
Mr. Singer used his position as school board director, chairman
of the Derry Township General Services Committee and founder of the Joy
Sports Foundation, to unethically move the project forward under the radar.
He also asked people to work around Derry Township's codes to move forward
the project forward and made promises to use his position to do so.
I am quoting an August 18th email from Mr.
Singer to multiple researchers.
The comment period is listed on the agenda towards the end, but
depending on how discussion goes, I, as chairman of the committee, may move
to obtain public comment prior to voting on the m0u FOIA.
After this discussion about the menu, the committee will vote to move the item
to the full board for review and its approval on the September 27th meeting.
The evidence is clear Mr.
Singer was not working in the primary interest of our school district
and should no longer be a member of this board.
He clearly did not follow poor policy and abused his position of power
within the committee. Thank you.
Thank you.
Any more live comments
from Sophia Mimi
126 Java Avenue, Hershey, P.A..
I'm speaking here tonight to make people more aware of the dress
code in the middle school.
Today, there was a new rule about the dress code that came out
explaining that the students are not allowed to wear pajama pants
for reason, that they are trying to prepare them for the future.
Personally, I don't agree with this because they are 11 to 14 year old kids,
not college or high school students, and most of them even get jobs yet.
So it just does not really make sense to me.
Not only are they not allowed to wear pajama pants, they're also not allowed
to wear ripped jeans, spaghetti straps, tops and athletic shorts.
I don't believe it is fair that such young kids are being sexualized
and getting in trouble for something that is normal.
The dress code seems to be more focused on
what the females are wearing versus males.
Most men don't typically wear crop tops and short athletic shorts,
but women do manga to wear mostly
whatever they would wear on a weekend or over the summer to school.
But women do not.
The boys get to express
and express themselves freely while the girls are told to cover up.
Telling a young girl the cover up is not going to do anything
any good for them in the future.
They will grow up and realize that they can wear whatever they want.
For the most part, I don't think the school should be worrying
about what the kids wear and should leave it up to their parents.
It isn't the school's job to control
what the students wearing, how they express themselves.
It is the school's job to educate and keep the students safe.
Thank you.
Any other live comments?
Otherwise, we will go to our virtual attendees.
At this time, we do not have any virtual attendees with questions.
Item number nine Given recent significant developments
regard to legal developments surrounding COVID 19 mitigation requirements,
we're providing an opportunity
for residents and taxpayers to ask questions specific to this issue.
Outside of our standard public comment process.
To the extent she is able, Dr.
Winslow will respond to direct questions from the public on behalf of the board.
Citizens wishing to present a question should come to the microphone, phone
or raise their virtual hand.
Each individual should pose only one question
during their turn, after which they can return to their seat to allow Dr.
Winslow to her response.
If any question present requires additional research or further follow up
to be properly addressed, it can be submitted to Mrs.
AJI, our board secretary, along with contact information.
Those items will be addressed at a later time
when the necessary information is available. Is there anything?
Yes. This portion of the meeting will be limited to 45 minutes.
Was anyone have a direct question in this regard for Dr.
Winslow?
To help clarify.
This?
60 Minutes.
My name's Kathy Burris, 163 High Point Drive.
I would like to know if there's anywhere else in Pennsylvania,
any other school bus not doing contact tracing and if that's a possibility.
Can we do that here?
Thank you for your question.
Thank you.
I can't speak to every school in Pennsylvania.
However, I have spoken to my colleagues and.
The. Majority of them are doing tracing.
I know there's a perception that the districts around us and in the US
are you 15 region are not all doing contact tracing,
but according to their superintendents they are in fact doing contact tracing.
And for those. That.
Have had the issues at lunch like we did, it takes a ton of time.
And for those who are going optional this week
and it's about half of them, it's not all of them.
So make that very clear. Also,
they are very, very worried about the
the amount of time and and energy that that is going to take because
it's going to take their nurses and their administrators.
That's what they're going to do.
Is contact Trace until that we get new guidance.
On that.
Stacey.
Any other live questions?
Otherwise, we'll move to the.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Dr.. 120 to address myself
again, Brian Boltzmann said West Covina Road
In regards to the fight, you put out a letter.
Oh, no, I'm sorry. We're only in.
Regards to the fight. They're
just.
Really addressing the.
Video. I'm sorry. I can't I can't answer any of those.
You can't answer a sentence you wrote in here.
And we're only addressing pandemic questions.
This is, you know, this pandemic, this agenda, this agenda item was.
My apologies. My apologies. I'm sorry.
If you reach out to me individually, though,
about something in the letter, I can maybe answer it later.
Thank you.
Any other live questions?
Otherwise, we'll move to our virtual virtual hands.
Yes, we have one virtual hand.
John Miller, you have been given permission to unmute.
Please state your name and record and address for the record.
Hello.
John Miller, 329 Cocoa Avenue.
Hi, Dr. Winslow. Thank you for taking a second here.
I was just wondering if we could possibly develop some type of,
you know, maybe library or resource.
I use the term library, I guess kind of metaphorically,
but I suppose I'm what I'm trying to get after here would be a
a publicly accessible
electronic library that could be categorized
into buckets of know these big ticket items
or whatever these big decisions is, whether it's masks, whether it's contact
tracing, whether it's vaccination, whatever these items are
that are that are points of contention in the community,
If we could somehow have a resource
that we have this library that has information on that
the current stance of the school district is predicated on this information,
that it would be available, that well intentioned citizens could challenge
scientifically through the process of science.
You know, people say follow the science.
It's it's a little bit more than a yard sign.
I think you'd agree based off of some great conversations we've had.
I know you're you're one person
and there's 3500 students.
So would would the district and I don't mean to put you on the spot
but at least encourage you
to maybe consider something like that, to maybe add to the,
you know, the updates in the COVID resources that are
that have been on the site.
That's kind of a long winded question.
I don't know if there's any any room for that on the website possibly.
Thank you, Mr. Miller.
I, I might maybe we can talk at a different time
and you can give me a little bit more outline of what you're picturing.
I'm having a hard time
in my head what you're looking for.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, Maybe I'll send you a sketch or something.
Yeah, that might be a little easier. Okay, cool.
Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
You bet.
Right.
Any other virtual hands?
No virtual hands at this time.
Is there anything else for the good of the order?
I just want to.
This is Cathy Seger. Mr.
Friends just walked out, but he's our current business manager.
I just wanted to thank him for
keeping the district on track financially during his tenure here,
and also keeping us on track to provide high quality academics.
And I wish him the best at Palmyra.
Thank you, Cathy.
Hey, the tip shore.
Sorry, Mike Snyder did.
Ditto to what Cathy said.
Thanks, Mike. Great.
Thank you.
The next public board of directors meeting will be held January 10th, 2022,
starting at 7 p.m..
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May have a motion to adjourn this meeting.
So moved Maria.
Mimi. Second. Mike Rizzo.
All in favor, say I say no.
The meeting is adjourned at 8:56 p.m..
Thank you, everybody.