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That public comment is not a

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forum for personal attacks,
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Please be advised that you're accountable
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not a public concern.

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To provide other residents
with an opportunity to speak each speaker

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during the public comment portion

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is limited to 5 minutes of speaking time
once recognized and limited

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to one opportunity to address the board
during each of the public comment periods.

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If necessary,
the board may set a maximum time

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for the public comment portion
of any meeting.

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I will ask board Treasurer, Mrs.

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Seger to please keep time.

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Are there any residents or taxpayers
who would like to comment on agenda

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items at this time?

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Seeing none in the audience?

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I would open it up to individuals
who are participating

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virtually.

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I don't see any at this time.

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Okay.

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Moving on to community
correspondence support.

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Ms.. Karpel,
do you have a report for us, please?

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I do.

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Thank you.

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For the month of June,
the district received 11 community

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correspondence Submissions, comments
and questions for this month include

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two requests
regarding COVID test kit information.

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Two questions about the school board.

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Two questions about transcripts
and report cards.

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A question about returning iPads,

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a question about regarding bathrooms,
and two comments

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regarding the health and safety plan
and COVID information on the website.

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Thank you.

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The listed items are on the anticipated
August

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eight, 2022, Board of Directors
Meeting Agenda

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Consent Agenda Items.

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The Content Agenda contains
routinely adopted items and items

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which normally do not require public
deliberation on the part of the board.

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A board member may pull items which will
then be discussed and voted on separately.

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May I please have a motion to approve
the consent agenda items as listed?

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So move to Miami. Second, Mike Rizzo.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is a standard voice vote.

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All those in favor say I, i any opposed
say no.

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The consent agenda is approved.

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New business items.

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First up is the emergency
instructional time template.

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Dr. Windsor.

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The administration recommends the board
approve the Derry Township School

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District 2022 2023
Emergency Instructional Time Templates.

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Thank you.

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May I please have a motion to approve
the emergency instructional time template?

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So moved Miami.

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Second. Mike Rizzo.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is standard voice vote.

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All those in favor.

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Please say I buy any opposed.

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Say no.

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Next item is

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the notice of modification and termination
of tax collection services.

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Dr. Windsor.

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The administration recommends
the board retroactively accept

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the notice of modification

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and termination to the Derry Township
Tax Collection Association.

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May I please have a motion

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to retroactively accept notice
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and termination to the Derry Township
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So move to Miami. Second, Microsoft.

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Is there any discussion?

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I would just like to add
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this retroactive notice
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public business meeting,

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the school district and school board

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were notified of the township's intent
to issue their letter

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pursuant to the longstanding agreements
with the tax collector

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and the two township
for the tax collection to serve services

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done by the Derry Township
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In response to that
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that if the township were to change
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services, it would put the school district

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in a position of wanting and needing
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Since the Township Tax Collection
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of the contributions of both
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So we issued that
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following

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meetings from the township
and understanding the proposals

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that they're considering
and maybe voting on at their next meeting.

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At our August meeting,
we will be having a discussion

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and full outline on tax collection
services and our opportunity

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or the options that are available to us
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as well as cost comparison savings.

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Just for full transparency.

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So anyone have any questions

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or any other discussion?

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This is the standard voice vote.

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All those in favor, please say hi.

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Any personal

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item is approved.

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The next item is the approval
of an affiliation agreement.

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Dr. Windsor.

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The administration recommends the board
approve the affiliation agreement

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with Derry Township School District

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and Shippensburg University
effective July 18th, 2022.

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Thank you.

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May I please have a motion

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to approve the affiliation agreement
with Shippensburg University?

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So moved Maria Me second. Mike Rizzo.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is a standard voice vote.

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All those in favor, please say hi.

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Any personnel?

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We have another approval
of an affiliation agreement.

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Dr. Windsor.

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The administration recommends the board

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approve the affiliation agreement
with Derry Township School

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District and Susquehanna University,
effective July 18th, 2022.

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Thank you.

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May I please have a motion

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to approve the affiliation agreement
with Susquehanna University?

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So move to marry me.

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Second, Mike Rizzo.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is standard voice vote.

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All those in favor,
please say I am your personal

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approval of the speaker.

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Bus Lines
Transportation Agreement. Dr. Windsor.

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The administration recommends

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the board approve the agreement
with Swiger Bus Lines Inc.

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to provide transportation
primarily for our special education and

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homeless students.

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Thank you.

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May I please have a motion
to approve This way.

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Your bus lines Transportation agreement.

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So moved.

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Where am I? My second Microsoft.

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Is there any discussion?

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This a standard voice vote?

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All those in favor.

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Please say I i Any posting now?

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The next item

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is the 2022 legislative platform,
and the board recommends the approval

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of the proposed addition to the 2022
legislative platform and directs the Board

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Secretary
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on behalf of the Derry Township
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The addition is to supporting concept 2.4
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under the core legislative

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principle number two, strengthening
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May I please have a motion
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SBA Legislative Platform addition?

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So move Teri Center.

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Second Cathy Singer

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Moving into discussion.

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Here for me, as is Microsoft.

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I don't agree with everything
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So for that

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purpose I will be voting no.

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I was unaware that was being written.

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So voting on today is first time.

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I mean, other than the proposal,
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that I've had a chance
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But again, I think as a school board,

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I know we have some good

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we have some need to provide

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our circle of influence to the SBA.

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But I sit there in the statement

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talking about how the SBA
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it, and yet we want to force that through
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on this, the gun regulation to the SBA.

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I just don't understand why

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why we would push them to do something
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And so to me, that doesn't make sense.

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And we we look at a resource
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and we have one resource in reference
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So to me, I want to be voting for this.

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I mean, this is Terry Singer.

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I just wanted to

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provide
just a little bit of background on.

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Spirit.

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PSB and what this opportunity represents.

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I think everyone here knows that the Las
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represents school boards across the state.

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It provides training and education.

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I think that we've
all probably participated in

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and they also do advocacy
on behalf of school boards

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annually.

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They seek proposals for consideration

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for their legislative platform
from school boards.

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So they reach out to us seeking, you know,
any ideas and suggestions we have.

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The legislative platform
then becomes the association's official

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record of position on legislative issues
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So, you know, we're we're being asked,

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as are school boards across the state,
if there are any issues that we'd

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like to propose

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for their consideration
for inclusion in their platform.

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We have many options as a board in

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thinking about what we might propose.

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We can voice support for the continuation
of specific current platform statements.

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We can create new proposals,
we can amend existing platform language,

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or we can suggest the deletion
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So my reading of that is the PSB is

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is asking us to be thinking about

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different things,

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some of which include things
that are not currently in their platform

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and that's why they're soliciting
you know, ideas from,

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you know, from school boards.

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Our particular proposal talks
about the option

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of amending an existing plan,
some existing platform language.

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So just I might have misunderstood.

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Understood your observation, Mike, and I

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just wanted to provide some background.

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If I may, because I think I understand
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So first, thank you to Mr.

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Singer and Mr.

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Bennett for collaborating on that.

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The topics for this,
I just realized that the document

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that's attached to the agenda
was not the final document

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that had been provided
and so the part that you saw

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with a rationale
and then propose rationale underneath it,

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prior to that going onto the agenda,

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there had been discussion
for the proposed rationale to replace.

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So where it was discussing about PSB
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you know, taking a position
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in the final version and replaced

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with the italicized part on page two

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because ultimately SBA is school
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at the

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direction of school boards
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that drive the creation
of the legislative platform.

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So PSB a PSB
does something or doesn't do something.

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It's the collective voice of all members
of PSB, which is the 500 school districts.

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Does that clarify that?

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And this is Mike Rizzo.

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It's a little bit, but not much.

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So I'm sort of my voting on today. Sure.

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So it would be the the proposal,
which is the addition

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to the core legislative principle, too.

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And so the legislative proposals
that PSB are the proposals for amendments

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to their legislative platform that PSB
it calls for, ask for the proposal,

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which is what we are asking them
to add, amend, take away.

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And then the rationale behind it is
what is provided to the platform

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committee, which is made up of members
of PSB from school districts across

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Pennsylvania who vote
and make a recommendation to the delegate

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Assembly in November, where all voting
members, two from every school district

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who are members of PSB vote
on those proposed changes.

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So what this proposal is doing

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is adding a line to

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or adding a section to that
supporting concept under core legislative

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principle two, and that would call
the school board would call on the state.

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And so those items that are listed
one through six, if passed

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and by this board as presented,
would be submitted

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to PSB for consideration
and inclusion of the legislative platform

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that everyone votes on.

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Okay, this is Mike Rizzo.

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Again,
I understand where you're what you're

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speaking about now, but in in the end,
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with the overall volatile situation
in in voting rates,

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in voting and things that are happening
in the the government today,

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it just seems like a volatile piece of
representation that we're giving the PSB.

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I would rather have us put our efforts
towards being able to provide

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safer schools for funding,
be able to look at the mental part of it

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and working on the individuals
to build them to the point

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where, you know, maybe
they're not carrying guns in the school

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and they're looking at bullying
and all the other things

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that we currently do
within our school district.

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But looking at ways of bettering
that versus looking at something that's

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outside of our control and even influence

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to a degree, probably into my mind,
on the edge of influence

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to it

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just to me doesn't seem like something
that I can support.

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Sure. So that's where I'm at.

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Yeah, completely.

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I just want to make sure you understood
from the rationale part.

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I reviewed the proposal
that that was submitted

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and took a look at it
and had worked with Mr.

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Singer
and provided some information to help with

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creating some of the supporting items.

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I do support items one through four

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because they came directly from

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some policy research from the Everytown

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for Gun Safety and

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Education Association

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that was provided,
and it was kind of a policy manual

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that is reinforced by statistics and data

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that are asking
for some common sense measures.

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And so for me

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in Pennsylvania, we've advocated
and this board has advocated

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to enhance

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various school
safety protections, provide funding,

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you know, for things like threat
assessments and school resource officers

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through Act 77 that was

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passed
following the Parkland shooting in 2018,

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that a lot of those measures
were addressed

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to me, items one through four from

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a topic perspective helps to enhance
what schools are already doing.

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And so while I always think that
we should be broadening and expanding,

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you know, the funding and support
for mental health

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and for the assessments
for security measures, we know

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even just from having the risk
and vulnerability

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assessments done that

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what we do is only so, you know, is only

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so good
and schools can do as much as they can.

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But these items try to help

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on the front end of it, in my view,
to make sure that

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weapons don't end up in the hands
of someone who should not have them,

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and that there are, you know, raising
the minimum age

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to purchase semiautomatic firearms
with detachable magazines

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requiring background checks on all sales
so that there are not loopholes

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to be able to do that,

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secure firearms storage to,

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you know, ensure
that if there is a firearm in a home

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with a minor,
that there are, you know, laws in place

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guiding people on how to securely store
those so that a student would not be able

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to have easier access
and potentially bring that to school.

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So I support those from the,
you know, perspective of

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I think that there is a lot of data
to support that.

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I think that these are very driven
and relatable to education

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and the things that we're seeking
to try to do from a security perspective

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in preventing gun violence in our schools.

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Number five, number six are not things
that I'm necessarily opposed to.

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My concern with them
being in this proposal is that

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I wouldn't want to see anything
that that takes away from the possibility

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of this being adopted and added
to the platform that PSB advocates for

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on behalf of us, which is on behalf of,

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you know, our community and our students.

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So I would propose

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a motion to

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amend this to have items one through four,

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as I believe that those are

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the most backed by data and research

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and support, and that we've seen

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a lot of other legislation in other states

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take form similar to these four things.

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Do you need a section to do that? Yes.

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Second Cathy sticker.

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So we have a motion to amend

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the proposal

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to remove items five and six

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made by me and seconded by Mrs.

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Seger. Is there any discussion on that?

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Yes, Robert, but actually I was, you know,
I can't help Mr.

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Singer out with this.

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He use me kind of as a relief of sorts.

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Was kind of a tongue in cheek conversation
we had one day.

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And then some of this actually
came out of like an email I sent to him.

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It was kind of like a casual conversation
and so I was a bit surprised to see it

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kind of word for word from like an email
that I just kind of sent.

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So I there's no nothing backing that.

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That was kind of
just some of my opinions on that.

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I guess that I wasn't really expecting
to see on that proposal

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were amending things like some of these.

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There's some other ones
I don't particularly agree with

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all that well-intentioned.

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I think I might be out of line here,
but I think as a board,

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I'm not sure as a whole
we have enough gun knowledge

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probably to be making
some of these proposals.

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For example, like can anybody here
tell me even what the current storage

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levels are in Pennsylvania?

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So we're making proposals for one
that nobody here

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can even tell us what that law is.

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So I'm going to guess that
there are no storage laws to go ahead.

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That's the district. You are correct.

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Can't sell it with a gun lot,
but there's no laws.

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There's no specific law.

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You can just have it in your dresser.

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You can have it laying next to the TV.

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There are no laws.

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You have to ask when you buy one.
It comes with a gun lock.

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You have to sell the gun lock.
But there's no laws but correct. So

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whether proposed that
or not, my point is like nobody knows.

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That's we're bringing things that we don't
necessarily have the knowledge of.

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And some like with the red flag
walls, I'm not sure like three or two

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non-ambulatory commitment really covers
a lot of this already some of the stuff.

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So I don't want again, I don't know how up
we are on these kind of things.

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So once again, to be voting on things
that we don't have enough knowledge

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based on that, I have an issue with that.

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Not even that I disagree with everything,
and I'm not sure it's

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really properly backed
at this point. Sure.

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So I will add that in in my support
for these, I did read the plan

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that that these were derived from and knew

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that they were applicable to Pennsylvania
and that Pennsylvania did not have

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the components of the laws
being recommended in those items for it.

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That's why.

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Thank you.

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This is Cathy Zucker.

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I support your motion
to push through one, through four.

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I think it's important for us
as school board leaders to do anything

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we can to protect children and save lives.

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These extreme risk laws,

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secure firearms storage laws,
raising the minimum age to purchase

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a semiautomatic firearm to age 21
and require background checks on all gun

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sales are researched
and proven that they can save lives.

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Recently, guns has become

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the leading cause of death
for American children.

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It has surpassed automobile accidents.

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We are at a crisis level right now of gun
violence in our country,

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and I want to do anything possible
to keep kids safe.

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It's just unbelievable

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that Columbine was 23 years ago

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and we're still having mass shootings
in schools and in elementary schools.

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So I think it's incumbent

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of us as a board to do anything possible
to try to save lives.

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These are these four

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measures.

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Most Americans agree with.

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They're not taking guns away.

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You can you can legally own a gun.

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You're just supposed to store them
properly.

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Safe storage laws
would have saved my brother's life

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from being killed.

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Background checks
would have saved my brother's life.

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If you have anyone you know in your family

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who died from gun violence,
these are important laws.

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They're not infringing
on the Second Amendment.

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They're not taking guns away.

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They're just trying to make us safer
and save

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kids lives and save people's lives.

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This is our proposal for us
that the SBA then has to vote on.

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I don't doubt that they'll have another
discussion like us, and it may not pass.

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It may not get through the proposal.

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But I just think it's it's us
showing that we want to do everything

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possible to not have Uvalde, Texas,
in Hershey, Pennsylvania.

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Thank you, Mrs.

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Wicker.

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I'll add on to that
from that perspective as well,

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because I know that we can have
a robust conversation about it

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and if it passes here,
it still has to go to SBA.

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And the likelihood, you know, even if it
becomes part of the legislative platform,

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you know,

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we're still just one organization in
that would be advocating for these laws

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and lobbying on behalf of the SBA,
you know, in Harrisburg.

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So whether it's going to
to change something,

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you know, is a very large unknown.

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And it could come out in a very different
form than even what we present.

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But I know that I became a school

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board
director just months before Parkland.

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And so being a parent, being a school
board director and thinking about that,

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if, God forbid, something ever happened

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in any school district in our area

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or every time one happens in America,

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it makes me think about what

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how would we want to have

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advocated, how would we want to have,

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you know, tried to prevent that
and this board?

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I'm really proud of the work
that's been done with

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having the risk and vulnerability
assessment before they were, you know,

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put in by law
to be done of the enhancements

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or security measures
that the district has, you know,

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undertaken and the,
you know, financial investment in that

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of the policies that we've strengthened
to be able to do those things.

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I see this
as that next step of reinforcement

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and I want to be able to know
that we've done everything that we could

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to minimize the threat to our

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to our children and to our staff
and to our community

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from having to experience
that kind of tragedy.

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And when you look at what's happened
recently

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in Uvalde in Texas, a minimum age

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requirement law could have stopped that

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because an 18 year old

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was able to purchase
that type of weapon that was used

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in that shooting and something like
this would have been done.

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And so for me, it's the effort
that we make of saying this.

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We spoke up and we as a body,

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you know, asked for this inclusion

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so that we can say that we did everything
within our power and within our you know,

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sphere of influence as school leaders
to to try

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to make our children safer.

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This is Eric Schmitt.

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So why did we remove five and six?

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So for me, five and six,
I'm proposing the amendment to remove

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because I know that it did come from,
you know, Mr.

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Bennett's comments
and not necessarily how, you know,

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he would have envisioned that
or there wasn't supporting measures

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to reinforce it
that I feel give it the best chance

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of being considered by the PSB,
a platform committee.

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I also think that those topics are less

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they're more on

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on the side of after a crime is committed
instead of the prevention.

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And so for me, for us to be doing anything
as school board directors,

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I think that it should apply
on trying to prevent and

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items
one through four do that and are broadly

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research based.

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You could argue
that consequences are preventable

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like means to prevent an action
and the straw purchase

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if somebody is supplying a firearm
to a person

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that is preventable to.

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Sure.

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I'm looking more from the data
and the research behind school shootings.

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Typically, the weapons are not acquired
by straw gun sales.

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You know, in the statistics that support,

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you know, that make up school violence

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and most children wouldn't have been

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had, you know, sentencing applied to them.

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So it's not something
that I would disagree with advocating

499
00:27:00.452 --> 00:27:01.653
for outside of this.

500
00:27:01.653 --> 00:27:04.656
I just feel that in the

501
00:27:05.590 --> 00:27:07.325
in the lane that we are in a school

502
00:27:07.325 --> 00:27:10.328
directors items one through four

503
00:27:10.462 --> 00:27:12.931
I think are the most broadly accepted

504
00:27:12.931 --> 00:27:16.167
and are have the most research supporting

505
00:27:17.602 --> 00:27:20.105
to provide
it the best chance of consideration

506
00:27:20.105 --> 00:27:23.108
as a whole by the voting membership.

507
00:27:23.341 --> 00:27:25.844
This is Lindsay Clarke. I have a question.

508
00:27:25.844 --> 00:27:27.812
Is there a time constraint to do this?

509
00:27:27.812 --> 00:27:29.314
Because I listening to Mr.

510
00:27:29.314 --> 00:27:32.417
Bennett's comments
about kind of how this came to be

511
00:27:32.417 --> 00:27:37.088
and I know I had to look up a lot of this,
like to your point about laws

512
00:27:37.088 --> 00:27:40.091
and kind of how this coincides
with what we currently have,

513
00:27:41.126 --> 00:27:44.162
like, is there a time constraint
if collectively

514
00:27:44.162 --> 00:27:47.332
we put more into this
and then maybe revisit it.

515
00:27:47.999 --> 00:27:50.168
It's due on July 22nd. Yeah.

516
00:27:50.168 --> 00:27:55.840
So PSB accepts proposals
for this year's platform until July 22nd.

517
00:27:56.241 --> 00:27:59.010
So if it's not passed today,
then it wouldn't

518
00:27:59.010 --> 00:28:02.013
be brought forward to the platform
committee for consideration.

519
00:28:02.280 --> 00:28:03.248
But next year,

520
00:28:04.482 --> 00:28:06.951
so say
this was adopted the way that we sent

521
00:28:06.951 --> 00:28:09.954
it, items one through four
and we wanted to add five and six.

522
00:28:10.221 --> 00:28:14.492
That would be a next step for next year's
consideration because once it's adopted

523
00:28:14.492 --> 00:28:18.797
into the legislative platform, it's there
and then that's where it's built upon.

524
00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:22.200
So we have

525
00:28:22.367 --> 00:28:26.471
this school board has has sent proposals
in previous years,

526
00:28:26.471 --> 00:28:31.676
and I believe it was like 19
and 22 kind of piggybacked on one another

527
00:28:31.676 --> 00:28:35.947
to to strengthen the previous year's
proposal based on what was adopted.

528
00:28:36.414 --> 00:28:38.850
But there is the time constraint
from that.

529
00:28:38.850 --> 00:28:41.252
Okay. Thanks.

530
00:28:41.252 --> 00:28:43.455
I think just this is Terry Sanger.

531
00:28:43.455 --> 00:28:46.591
Again, to add to something,
I think Lindsay said the

532
00:28:47.692 --> 00:28:51.730
this is going to be vetted through
a pretty lengthy process.

533
00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.767
It's submitted to PSP on July 22nd,
then it goes

534
00:28:55.767 --> 00:28:59.738
to the platform committee
on September 17th.

535
00:29:00.271 --> 00:29:04.242
And then there is final consideration
by the delegate assembly, to which

536
00:29:04.242 --> 00:29:09.114
I believe we voted Donna and Lindsay
to attend as our representatives.

537
00:29:10.615 --> 00:29:13.618
There's another consideration by the

538
00:29:13.952 --> 00:29:17.522
Delegate Assembly on November 5th.

539
00:29:18.490 --> 00:29:22.360
So and then this year
they're going to add a new feature,

540
00:29:22.961 --> 00:29:25.964
which is through a separate process
that they're going to run.

541
00:29:28.366 --> 00:29:29.067
Oh, no, I'm sorry.

542
00:29:29.067 --> 00:29:32.137
That's for the 2324 session,
not not for this year.

543
00:29:32.437 --> 00:29:35.440
So that's the process
that it goes through.

544
00:29:35.473 --> 00:29:38.476
You know, pretty rigorous
vetting and review.

545
00:29:41.613 --> 00:29:42.781
One of my feelings

546
00:29:42.781 --> 00:29:46.518
in trying to advance this was that

547
00:29:48.386 --> 00:29:51.389
if there is one more organization

548
00:29:53.124 --> 00:29:53.591
that we have,

549
00:29:53.591 --> 00:29:56.594
one more organization thinking about it,

550
00:29:56.861 --> 00:30:00.098
who might not have thought about it
previously, although I would imagine

551
00:30:00.098 --> 00:30:02.100
they would have

552
00:30:02.100 --> 00:30:05.103
possibly an organization adopting

553
00:30:05.436 --> 00:30:08.439
one or two or three of these

554
00:30:09.474 --> 00:30:12.410
issues as as being part of their

555
00:30:12.410 --> 00:30:15.413
their legislative platform
and their advocacy agenda.

556
00:30:15.914 --> 00:30:19.350
And then possibly
a couple of more legislators

557
00:30:19.350 --> 00:30:22.353
hearing from another organization
that maybe they hadn't

558
00:30:22.353 --> 00:30:26.224
heard from previously on
issues related to gun safety.

559
00:30:28.993 --> 00:30:31.830
No thought that somehow the

560
00:30:31.830 --> 00:30:35.934
SBA would just take this lock, stock
and barrel and oh, yeah, we love this.

561
00:30:35.934 --> 00:30:37.735
We're going to advance it.

562
00:30:37.735 --> 00:30:42.674
And the legislature would hear from PSP
and of all of a sudden they draw up,

563
00:30:43.241 --> 00:30:45.810
you know, laws to incorporate these
these concepts

564
00:30:45.810 --> 00:30:48.947
that, you know, that isn't going to happen
in the real world.

565
00:30:48.947 --> 00:30:53.284
But if we just have, you know,
one more organization

566
00:30:54.152 --> 00:30:58.890
of during their advocacy
and their and their activity

567
00:30:58.890 --> 00:31:02.427
interacting with the legislators
are talking about these things,

568
00:31:03.661 --> 00:31:06.664
it just, you know, one more grain of sand

569
00:31:06.831 --> 00:31:09.801
to hopefully help build a beach

570
00:31:11.269 --> 00:31:14.272
or a beach and.

571
00:31:21.246 --> 00:31:22.680
Anyone else have any other discussion

572
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:27.886
on the amendment
to on the on the motion on the floor

573
00:31:27.886 --> 00:31:31.923
to amend to only include items
one through four in the submission.

574
00:31:34.926 --> 00:31:36.661
This is just terrorism against.

575
00:31:36.661 --> 00:31:38.663
Want to apologize to Bob.

576
00:31:38.663 --> 00:31:41.432
I didn't mean to include it

577
00:31:41.432 --> 00:31:44.035
if you didn't mean for it to be included.

578
00:31:44.035 --> 00:31:45.737
I support those measures like I said.
Okay.

579
00:31:45.737 --> 00:31:47.538
Yeah. No.

580
00:31:47.538 --> 00:31:51.342
Of where that that was going
to be quite done like that.

581
00:31:51.342 --> 00:31:52.277
Yeah.

582
00:31:52.277 --> 00:31:54.045
So anyway, I apologize for that.

583
00:31:54.045 --> 00:31:57.048
Mr. Bennett.

584
00:31:57.949 --> 00:32:00.151
Okay then what we have to do next

585
00:32:00.151 --> 00:32:03.121
is take a roll call
vote on the motion to amend.

586
00:32:05.723 --> 00:32:08.793
So we're only voting to remove
five and six right now.

587
00:32:08.826 --> 00:32:11.829
Correct.

588
00:32:12.030 --> 00:32:15.033
Mrs. Agee, roll call, please.

589
00:32:16.067 --> 00:32:19.070
Mr. Bennett. Yes.

590
00:32:19.370 --> 00:32:21.773
Mr.. Yes, Dr.

591
00:32:21.773 --> 00:32:23.508
Katz? Yes.

592
00:32:23.508 --> 00:32:24.575
Mrs. Manning?

593
00:32:24.575 --> 00:32:25.743
Yes. Mr.

594
00:32:25.743 --> 00:32:28.746
Rizzo? No.

595
00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:32.183
Mr. Schmidt. No.

596
00:32:32.250 --> 00:32:34.752
Mr. Secor. Yes.

597
00:32:34.752 --> 00:32:37.755
Mr. Singer? Yes.

598
00:32:46.230 --> 00:32:46.998
Six. Yes.

599
00:32:46.998 --> 00:32:48.032
And two Now.

600
00:32:48.032 --> 00:32:48.466
Thank you.

601
00:32:48.466 --> 00:32:50.535
So that

602
00:32:50.535 --> 00:32:53.538
the motion has been amended.

603
00:32:53.871 --> 00:32:54.772
So then I would ask

604
00:32:54.772 --> 00:32:59.010
if there is any additional discussion
before we vote on that item as amended.

605
00:33:01.512 --> 00:33:01.713
Yeah.

606
00:33:01.713 --> 00:33:02.280
Robert Bennett.

607
00:33:02.280 --> 00:33:05.483
So number one, once again,
that's one that I think is redundant

608
00:33:05.950 --> 00:33:09.020
under like the serious threat people,
you know, calling terror threat.

609
00:33:09.020 --> 00:33:10.221
A lot of this.

610
00:33:10.221 --> 00:33:13.024
My opinion with this whole thing is
you know a lot is covers under the threat

611
00:33:13.024 --> 00:33:16.561
or to involuntary commitment when you're
posing a great harm to yourself or others,

612
00:33:16.561 --> 00:33:19.564
you can be, you know,

613
00:33:19.764 --> 00:33:21.132
involuntarily committed to me

614
00:33:21.132 --> 00:33:24.836
taking the gun away is, you know,
you can't have guns anymore.

615
00:33:24.836 --> 00:33:25.636
As soon as you're three or two,

616
00:33:25.636 --> 00:33:29.073
you're no longer in Pennsylvania,
allowed to possess by firearms,

617
00:33:29.340 --> 00:33:32.810
which I think has a much better impact
than, you know, temporary

618
00:33:32.810 --> 00:33:34.312
taking the person away from the gun.
So you're

619
00:33:34.312 --> 00:33:36.881
taking the gun away from the person,
but you've left them on the street.

620
00:33:36.881 --> 00:33:39.817
So there's all kinds of other ways that
people can do harm other than firearms,

621
00:33:39.817 --> 00:33:42.820
which time to show vehicles, knives,
all kinds of stuff people do.

622
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.357
So you're taking one tool away, but
you're not really removing the problem.

623
00:33:46.657 --> 00:33:48.092
So I think it's kind of just going to

624
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.462
I don't
think it's in the grand scheme by helpful.

625
00:33:51.462 --> 00:33:54.399
So with number one being attached,
I'm going to be oppose this amendment

626
00:33:54.399 --> 00:33:55.900
with this.

627
00:33:55.900 --> 00:33:59.737
Proposal just from a question perspective

628
00:34:00.071 --> 00:34:03.074
with the 302, does that

629
00:34:03.841 --> 00:34:06.844
is that required
to go through petition to the court.

630
00:34:06.878 --> 00:34:08.613
It's similar because.

631
00:34:08.613 --> 00:34:11.716
This one sound, the way I understand it,

632
00:34:12.250 --> 00:34:16.087
is that this is not for a302.

633
00:34:16.087 --> 00:34:19.090
This is that

634
00:34:20.491 --> 00:34:23.194
law enforcement
educators, family members could petition

635
00:34:23.194 --> 00:34:26.197
a court to prevent
from having the access to firearms.

636
00:34:26.197 --> 00:34:29.133
So it's not the same type of declaration
as a302 would be,

637
00:34:29.133 --> 00:34:30.902
which wouldn't carry
the same consequences.

638
00:34:30.902 --> 00:34:34.038
Well, it is
as you can throw to like on the street,

639
00:34:34.038 --> 00:34:36.841
like you can be taken immediately
to hospital and committed by the police.

640
00:34:36.841 --> 00:34:38.910
A doctor kind of if it's a family member,

641
00:34:38.910 --> 00:34:42.447
they get with like crisis intervention
and they it all happens within hours.

642
00:34:43.014 --> 00:34:44.415
But once again, I'm removing the person.

643
00:34:44.415 --> 00:34:47.618
So this person is that big of a threat
that they need to have this happen.

644
00:34:48.386 --> 00:34:51.556
Do I remove the person from the problem
or remove

645
00:34:51.556 --> 00:34:53.958
one tool
that they would have to create havoc?

646
00:34:53.958 --> 00:34:56.961
I think it's better to take the person way
than take

647
00:34:57.428 --> 00:34:59.797
the one firearm
because are many other ways you can be.

648
00:34:59.797 --> 00:35:02.433
You can cause havoc on the community
other than the firearm.

649
00:35:03.935 --> 00:35:07.171
Yes, that can happen in a matter of,
you know, police response.

650
00:35:07.171 --> 00:35:10.141
Next thing you know,
you're going to be in the hospital.

651
00:35:10.141 --> 00:35:10.575
Right.

652
00:35:10.575 --> 00:35:14.846
This is where I see just the difference
if there's due process and and court

653
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.050
orders required inside of these extreme

654
00:35:19.050 --> 00:35:22.053
risk laws compared to the three to it.

655
00:35:22.186 --> 00:35:25.189
It's just not
it doesn't seem to be the same to me.

656
00:35:26.224 --> 00:35:28.392
But I guess what, you're three of two
you're also you're

657
00:35:28.392 --> 00:35:31.562
you can no longer possess
by having more firearms.

658
00:35:31.562 --> 00:35:32.730
Like that's done. You're done.

659
00:35:32.730 --> 00:35:37.869
So but this would provide an alternative
to just using the 302 option, correct?

660
00:35:39.070 --> 00:35:40.404
Yeah.

661
00:35:40.404 --> 00:35:42.840
I guess if that's how you're looking at
I'm look to it's

662
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.977
under the same thing you know you're
a serious threat to themselves or others.

663
00:35:46.144 --> 00:35:47.879
But it's saying these extreme risk
protection

664
00:35:47.879 --> 00:35:49.780
orders
sometimes known as red flag orders or gun

665
00:35:49.780 --> 00:35:53.384
violence restraining orders, can be issued
only after a specific legal

666
00:35:53.384 --> 00:35:56.921
determination is made that a person poses
a serious threat to themselves or others.

667
00:35:57.421 --> 00:35:59.590
They also contain
strong due process protections

668
00:35:59.590 --> 00:36:02.593
to ensure that a person's rights
are balanced for public safety.

669
00:36:02.727 --> 00:36:04.028
Once issued,

670
00:36:04.028 --> 00:36:07.365
the person is required to relinquish
any guns and prohibited to buy new.

671
00:36:08.432 --> 00:36:09.901
This prohibition is

672
00:36:09.901 --> 00:36:12.870
temporary, generally lasting one year.

673
00:36:13.471 --> 00:36:19.076
So it's not the same
you know, measures as a302 would be in.

674
00:36:19.076 --> 00:36:22.146
So I would see this
as being an alternative to

675
00:36:22.246 --> 00:36:26.083
to providing in extreme risk situations
through due process

676
00:36:27.485 --> 00:36:30.321
measures to remove.

677
00:36:30.321 --> 00:36:32.190
Excuse me, that doesn't seem to me
it does seem very immediate,

678
00:36:32.190 --> 00:36:35.193
like there's a problem and you address
like now, like going through these.

679
00:36:35.193 --> 00:36:37.995
Like how long does it take
for this whole process to happen?

680
00:36:37.995 --> 00:36:39.764
How do the guns get removed?

681
00:36:39.764 --> 00:36:40.231
Are you going to start?

682
00:36:40.231 --> 00:36:43.901
Cause I've been on a lot of
through to barricaded gun.

683
00:36:43.901 --> 00:36:46.404
Are we going to a SWAT
team? Come remove these guns.

684
00:36:46.404 --> 00:36:47.471
That's sometimes that's what requires

685
00:36:47.471 --> 00:36:49.540
you get the three of two people
out of these houses.

686
00:36:49.540 --> 00:36:53.644
So I think I don't know that this one,
although well-intentioned,

687
00:36:53.644 --> 00:36:57.548
I don't think has doesn't really solve
the problem as well as I think

688
00:36:57.548 --> 00:37:01.052
whenever that practical
the of it I think is not is

689
00:37:03.254 --> 00:37:04.422
the practicality of it is not quite

690
00:37:04.422 --> 00:37:07.425
the same as what it looks like on paper
in my opinion.

691
00:37:07.925 --> 00:37:09.694
This is a Cathy Zwicker.

692
00:37:09.694 --> 00:37:13.397
I look at this as in addition
to the three two, because I think

693
00:37:13.764 --> 00:37:17.001
when they've studied mass shootings,
they know that a lot of these

694
00:37:17.001 --> 00:37:20.204
say these people do give indication
of what they're doing.

695
00:37:20.371 --> 00:37:24.842
They're often most of them are suicidal
and they've posted things on social media

696
00:37:24.842 --> 00:37:28.579
and somebody knows
somebody has read something,

697
00:37:28.913 --> 00:37:32.984
somebody has they've said something like,
I'm going to kill everybody.

698
00:37:32.984 --> 00:37:37.021
And so this to me is just reinforcing

699
00:37:37.021 --> 00:37:40.024
that more like this is another step.

700
00:37:40.057 --> 00:37:41.993
It's not a whole threat to.

701
00:37:41.993 --> 00:37:42.326
You got.

702
00:37:42.326 --> 00:37:45.830
You commit
somebody and guns do much more damage.

703
00:37:45.830 --> 00:37:48.599
Then we can argue this, right?

704
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:53.337
But an AR 15, you saw that
there were one police officers or 30

705
00:37:53.437 --> 00:37:57.875
who wouldn't even go into the classroom
for 2 hours because it was too dangerous.

706
00:37:57.875 --> 00:38:01.412
And a AR 15
does a lot more damage than a knife.

707
00:38:01.412 --> 00:38:04.081
So to me, this is just one more step.

708
00:38:04.081 --> 00:38:06.183
It's it's not an extreme step.

709
00:38:06.183 --> 00:38:11.055
It's a little step
to help the problem that we know.

710
00:38:11.222 --> 00:38:14.225
We do know things about mass shootings.

711
00:38:14.225 --> 00:38:17.295
And so I feel like this is in
they did the research

712
00:38:17.295 --> 00:38:19.530
and that's why they came up with this one.

713
00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:20.731
And that's where I look at.

714
00:38:20.731 --> 00:38:26.203
We're just asking for this to be
considered for, you know, for legislation.

715
00:38:26.203 --> 00:38:29.373
Obviously, there's a lengthy process
that would go through that

716
00:38:29.373 --> 00:38:32.376
that I'm sure would,
you know, bring in the perspective

717
00:38:32.977 --> 00:38:35.880
that you're sharing and kind of what works
and what doesn't

718
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.083
and would be vetted through,
you know, a lot of other things.

719
00:38:40.518 --> 00:38:41.552
I guess I would just ask for

720
00:38:41.552 --> 00:38:44.722
consideration that if you believe that

721
00:38:44.722 --> 00:38:47.725
some of these

722
00:38:47.992 --> 00:38:51.662
would be helpful in preventing,
you know, school gun

723
00:38:51.662 --> 00:38:54.632
violence situation from that perspective,

724
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.602
you know that you look at it

725
00:38:58.869 --> 00:39:00.271
through that lens,

726
00:39:00.271 --> 00:39:03.274
understanding there's a long road.

727
00:39:03.974 --> 00:39:06.977
You compound on each other, for example,

728
00:39:07.345 --> 00:39:09.847
with an hour, 15 rifle
everybody like to talk about,

729
00:39:09.847 --> 00:39:11.649
I can sell it to my neighbor,
cash in hand.

730
00:39:11.649 --> 00:39:13.317
No one even knows you have that.

731
00:39:13.317 --> 00:39:16.821
So that's where you know
the one about the number four.

732
00:39:17.221 --> 00:39:17.855
Right?

733
00:39:17.855 --> 00:39:20.124
So without that one, that's irrelevant.

734
00:39:20.124 --> 00:39:20.758
Like the plea.

735
00:39:20.758 --> 00:39:23.728
I have no idea what anybody
has in their house other than handguns.

736
00:39:23.728 --> 00:39:25.763
Like,
you know, Miss Razor could have 10 hours.

737
00:39:25.763 --> 00:39:28.165
I'd never know it. So I come up and say,
Give me your air.

738
00:39:28.165 --> 00:39:29.533
They give me two.

739
00:39:29.533 --> 00:39:32.336
He starts eating out like it's
completely impractical.

740
00:39:32.336 --> 00:39:36.207
I would hope that the person
using the red flag law could

741
00:39:37.274 --> 00:39:38.175
somebody living with them.

742
00:39:38.175 --> 00:39:39.577
I mean, you know, yet there are

743
00:39:39.577 --> 00:39:42.580
there might be a lot of flaws in this,
but at least we're doing something

744
00:39:42.813 --> 00:39:43.314
right now.

745
00:39:43.314 --> 00:39:46.450
There's nothing like you said,
there are no safe storage laws.

746
00:39:46.584 --> 00:39:47.852
It's ridiculous.

747
00:39:47.852 --> 00:39:49.754
I said I agree with. I'm not I agree.

748
00:39:49.754 --> 00:39:50.454
Some of these

749
00:39:50.454 --> 00:39:54.392
this one is just modest from this one
just muddies why it's so impractical

750
00:39:54.692 --> 00:39:58.662
that it just makes the whole enforcement
of anything else so much more difficult

751
00:39:58.662 --> 00:39:59.964
because that one is just so in.

752
00:39:59.964 --> 00:40:04.602
When you put it to actual practice, it's
so it just doesn't work like this.

753
00:40:04.602 --> 00:40:07.905
It's not feasible,
like it's well-intentioned and I get it.

754
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:11.942
But to try and implement
this practically is just

755
00:40:12.843 --> 00:40:16.147
not a doable thing
and it's really wasting resources.

756
00:40:16.147 --> 00:40:18.449
The legislature
put things in place that don't work,

757
00:40:18.449 --> 00:40:20.751
and that's
just not a practical thing to be doing.

758
00:40:20.751 --> 00:40:24.388
So I'm wondering, since we just removed
five and six kind of for those reasons,

759
00:40:24.388 --> 00:40:26.190
like if we should discuss

760
00:40:26.190 --> 00:40:29.293
potentially removing one,
if as a majority, we think it's important.

761
00:40:29.293 --> 00:40:33.097
I do think that coming forward to PSB

762
00:40:33.330 --> 00:40:36.434
and saying it's not acceptable
to be silent, we need to do something like

763
00:40:36.434 --> 00:40:39.437
there's only so much we can do in schools
with mental health and bullying.

764
00:40:39.570 --> 00:40:42.940
I like the idea of taking a stronger
stance on gun violence.

765
00:40:43.474 --> 00:40:44.942
I think Mr.

766
00:40:44.942 --> 00:40:47.711
Bennett makes really great points
and knows a lot more about this than I do,

767
00:40:47.711 --> 00:40:50.881
so I can understand the confusion
with number.

768
00:40:51.182 --> 00:40:55.486
And I'm wondering if we should discuss
the potential of removing one

769
00:40:55.486 --> 00:41:00.090
and creating something
that more solely represents

770
00:41:00.090 --> 00:41:03.427
our opinion as a group
that we can get behind and support.

771
00:41:03.427 --> 00:41:05.763
So we can leave here with something.

772
00:41:05.763 --> 00:41:06.163
Because really

773
00:41:06.163 --> 00:41:09.200
if you get to three and four, go,
that's that's a solid win right there.

774
00:41:09.200 --> 00:41:12.336
Just those three alone, in my opinion,
if you can get that on the PSB agenda

775
00:41:12.336 --> 00:41:15.339
and they've got that those,
those three alone would be,

776
00:41:15.906 --> 00:41:17.942
I think, a solid win for everybody.

777
00:41:17.942 --> 00:41:20.945
So are you saying that if we vote
for the current,

778
00:41:21.078 --> 00:41:22.213
the current motions on the floor,

779
00:41:22.213 --> 00:41:25.883
if it gets voted down,
we can quickly make a motion to amend it

780
00:41:25.883 --> 00:41:28.886
just to include one, two and three
so it doesn't die.

781
00:41:28.953 --> 00:41:29.487
You mean to.

782
00:41:29.487 --> 00:41:31.188
No, I mean two, three.

783
00:41:31.188 --> 00:41:32.590
Yeah, two, three and four like.

784
00:41:32.590 --> 00:41:34.658
So were you amend it first.

785
00:41:34.658 --> 00:41:37.461
Well either way, but I don't. Yeah.

786
00:41:37.461 --> 00:41:39.930
So what can we do it to discussion.

787
00:41:41.432 --> 00:41:42.500
Thank you.

788
00:41:42.500 --> 00:41:45.603
I think if there's concern there
I can offer the board two options on that.

789
00:41:45.603 --> 00:41:49.406
One, we could have another motion
to amend to remove item number one similar

790
00:41:49.406 --> 00:41:50.508
to what we just did with items

791
00:41:50.508 --> 00:41:53.744
five and six,
or I would say we could probably pull item

792
00:41:53.744 --> 00:41:56.881
number one for separate consideration
if you'd like to do it that way.

793
00:41:57.882 --> 00:41:59.550
But it would leave per be a requirement.

794
00:41:59.550 --> 00:42:03.654
It has to be approved as a whole proposal
in order to be submitted.

795
00:42:05.623 --> 00:42:08.959
But we could approve the two,
three and four.

796
00:42:08.959 --> 00:42:11.729
At least we could vote on that
and then vote on the other one.

797
00:42:11.729 --> 00:42:14.131
At least then we would have
a whole proposal and total

798
00:42:14.131 --> 00:42:15.900
that would be submitted.

799
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:18.002
It is the information from PSB.

800
00:42:18.002 --> 00:42:19.570
It has to be one vote or one

801
00:42:20.771 --> 00:42:23.774
approval of these items to go to them.

802
00:42:26.310 --> 00:42:30.014
Now, there's nothing I've seen
that says it has to be in one vote.

803
00:42:30.014 --> 00:42:33.651
It's just that whatever
we submit has to be approved by the board.

804
00:42:37.688 --> 00:42:38.222
So couldn't

805
00:42:38.222 --> 00:42:42.159
we do a vote as amended currently

806
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.764
if that failed a reconsideration vote

807
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:51.769
amended to be two, three, four.

808
00:42:51.769 --> 00:42:53.070
There's a few ways of getting there.

809
00:42:53.070 --> 00:42:53.971
That's correct.

810
00:42:53.971 --> 00:42:56.307
We just we need a motion and a direction.

811
00:42:56.307 --> 00:42:58.742
But those are the options
the board would have.

812
00:42:58.742 --> 00:43:01.712
Okay, I'll make a motion to remove number
one from the core proposal.

813
00:43:02.313 --> 00:43:02.580
Okay.

814
00:43:02.580 --> 00:43:05.583
So a motion to amend the amended motion.

815
00:43:05.616 --> 00:43:06.917
Lead to three and.

816
00:43:06.917 --> 00:43:10.421
Do to a three and four second that.

817
00:43:10.621 --> 00:43:12.990
I'm sorry.

818
00:43:12.990 --> 00:43:13.591
Okay.

819
00:43:13.591 --> 00:43:16.994
So there a motion on the floor
to amend the amended proposal

820
00:43:17.828 --> 00:43:20.431
which would remove item number one

821
00:43:20.431 --> 00:43:23.667
leaving item two, three and four.

822
00:43:26.136 --> 00:43:29.139
Is there discussion about that?

823
00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:31.742
The surrey shaking it?

824
00:43:31.742 --> 00:43:34.011
Yes, for discussion?

825
00:43:34.011 --> 00:43:36.180
No, I'm just excited that something's
going to pass.

826
00:43:36.180 --> 00:43:38.215
Possibly so.

827
00:43:38.215 --> 00:43:38.782
All right.

828
00:43:38.782 --> 00:43:42.953
So then we will do a roll call vote
on the amended motion to further amend

829
00:43:42.953 --> 00:43:46.690
this motion and and create

830
00:43:46.690 --> 00:43:50.094
the proposed Virgin to be items
two, three and four.

831
00:43:51.662 --> 00:43:54.632
Can I just ask who had done that second.

832
00:43:57.034 --> 00:43:57.401
Okay.

833
00:43:57.401 --> 00:44:00.404
Thank you.

834
00:44:02.973 --> 00:44:04.742
Okay. Mr..

835
00:44:04.742 --> 00:44:06.710
YES, Dr.

836
00:44:06.710 --> 00:44:08.612
Cook. Yes,

837
00:44:08.612 --> 00:44:10.881
Mrs. Mimi? Yes.

838
00:44:10.881 --> 00:44:13.117
Mr. Rizzo. No.

839
00:44:13.117 --> 00:44:16.020
Mr. Smith. Yes,

840
00:44:16.020 --> 00:44:17.187
Mrs. Decker.

841
00:44:17.187 --> 00:44:18.722
Yes, Mr.

842
00:44:18.722 --> 00:44:20.758
Singer? Yes.

843
00:44:20.758 --> 00:44:23.127
Mr. Bennett. Yes.

844
00:44:23.127 --> 00:44:25.462
Seven. Yes. One. Now, Okay.

845
00:44:25.462 --> 00:44:28.465
So the motion on the floor
currently is an amended,

846
00:44:30.067 --> 00:44:32.102
twice amended

847
00:44:32.102 --> 00:44:35.005
proposal, which will be items two,

848
00:44:35.005 --> 00:44:38.008
three and four.

849
00:44:38.342 --> 00:44:42.579
Now for vote to approve, to send to PSB.

850
00:44:44.281 --> 00:44:48.385
This vote will be the approving vote
to decide whether or not to submit.

851
00:44:48.852 --> 00:44:51.321
Is there any discussion
before we proceed to the vote?

852
00:44:53.223 --> 00:44:54.091
I would just like to say

853
00:44:54.091 --> 00:44:57.061
thank you
for the conversation and collaboration.

854
00:44:57.061 --> 00:44:59.163
I think that

855
00:44:59.163 --> 00:45:01.799
this is important work and with everything

856
00:45:01.799 --> 00:45:06.470
there should be compromise and time and,
you know, resources invested in it.

857
00:45:06.470 --> 00:45:10.040
But it does make me proud
that as a board we're able to have

858
00:45:10.040 --> 00:45:13.077
these conversations
and and put forward this work.

859
00:45:13.077 --> 00:45:16.246
So I really appreciate everyone's
discussion in this.

860
00:45:16.714 --> 00:45:18.215
This is Cathy Secor.

861
00:45:18.215 --> 00:45:22.152
I really, really appreciate that way
past two, three and four.

862
00:45:22.152 --> 00:45:23.520
I think it's awesome.

863
00:45:23.520 --> 00:45:26.523
And I'm I'm very appreciative.

864
00:45:27.391 --> 00:45:29.393
These are very important measures

865
00:45:29.393 --> 00:45:32.396
and it's just a little small step, but

866
00:45:33.297 --> 00:45:35.332
it means a lot that we as local

867
00:45:35.332 --> 00:45:38.335
officials
will send something forward like this.

868
00:45:40.871 --> 00:45:41.371
Thank you.

869
00:45:41.371 --> 00:45:43.140
So hearing no other discussion, Mrs.

870
00:45:43.140 --> 00:45:45.709
Agee, I would ask for a roll call.

871
00:45:45.709 --> 00:45:51.682
Vote, please, to vote on the twice
amended motion for items two, three

872
00:45:51.682 --> 00:45:55.886
and four to be approved for submission
to PSB, a legislative platform.

873
00:45:57.421 --> 00:46:00.290
Mr.. Yes.

874
00:46:00.290 --> 00:46:02.693
Dr.. KECK. Yes,

875
00:46:02.693 --> 00:46:05.462
This is Manny. Yes.

876
00:46:05.462 --> 00:46:07.931
Mr.. RIZZO. No.

877
00:46:07.931 --> 00:46:10.167
Mr.. SCHMITT. Yes.

878
00:46:10.167 --> 00:46:12.336
Mr. Singer. Yes.

879
00:46:12.336 --> 00:46:13.237
Mr. Singer?

880
00:46:13.237 --> 00:46:15.873
Yes. Mr. BENNETT. Yes.

881
00:46:15.873 --> 00:46:18.842
Seven. Yes. One. No,

882
00:46:18.842 --> 00:46:21.812
thank you,

883
00:46:24.214 --> 00:46:24.815
Mrs. Agee.

884
00:46:24.815 --> 00:46:29.419
We can work to make sure the correct
Virgin's because of the rationale piece,

885
00:46:29.419 --> 00:46:32.422
and then the consolidated
two items, two, three and four

886
00:46:33.757 --> 00:46:36.994
that you have all of that
so that it can be submitted by the 22nd.

887
00:46:37.761 --> 00:46:38.462
Thank you.

888
00:46:38.462 --> 00:46:40.030
And there's one question.

889
00:46:40.030 --> 00:46:42.065
This is terrorism or so at this point.

890
00:46:42.065 --> 00:46:45.602
Then the administration
will be able to take it

891
00:46:45.602 --> 00:46:48.572
forward, get into the proper format.

892
00:46:48.772 --> 00:46:53.310
Yeah, the board secretary
will submit the application form

893
00:46:53.710 --> 00:46:56.580
or the form at PSB website.

894
00:46:56.580 --> 00:46:59.583
Okay. Thank you.

895
00:46:59.583 --> 00:46:59.950
Okay.

896
00:46:59.950 --> 00:47:02.452
Moving on to personnel resignations, Dr.

897
00:47:02.452 --> 00:47:04.555
Windsor,

898
00:47:04.555 --> 00:47:07.624
the administration recommends the approval
of the personnel resignations.

899
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.295
May I please have a motion
to approve the personnel resignations?

900
00:47:11.295 --> 00:47:12.229
So move to Maria.

901
00:47:12.229 --> 00:47:14.965
Mimi Second, Mike Rizzo.

902
00:47:14.965 --> 00:47:15.899
Is there any discussion?

903
00:47:16.934 --> 00:47:18.035
This is a standard voice vote.

904
00:47:18.035 --> 00:47:21.038
All those in be replaced by any personnel,

905
00:47:25.976 --> 00:47:26.410
personnel.

906
00:47:26.410 --> 00:47:27.544
General Dr. Windsor.

907
00:47:27.544 --> 00:47:28.779
The administration recommends

908
00:47:28.779 --> 00:47:32.249
the approval of the list of personnel
and recognition of any listed transfers.

909
00:47:32.583 --> 00:47:32.983
Thank you.

910
00:47:32.983 --> 00:47:34.351
May I please have a motion to approve

911
00:47:34.351 --> 00:47:37.321
the listed personnel
and recognition of any listed transfers?

912
00:47:37.521 --> 00:47:38.121
So moved.

913
00:47:38.121 --> 00:47:40.257
Maria Mimi Second, Microsoft.

914
00:47:40.257 --> 00:47:42.993
Is there any discussion?

915
00:47:42.993 --> 00:47:44.261
This is standard voice vote.

916
00:47:44.261 --> 00:47:47.631
All those in favor
say I, I and the A personnel

917
00:47:48.966 --> 00:47:51.969
personnel general is approved.

918
00:47:52.035 --> 00:47:54.805
That concludes our new business
for this evening.

919
00:47:54.805 --> 00:47:58.141
The SBA report is attached
for a delegate reports

920
00:47:58.475 --> 00:48:00.777
and then the SIU report is also attached.

921
00:48:00.777 --> 00:48:03.780
Mr. Schmitt, do you have anything
you'd like to add to that?

922
00:48:04.014 --> 00:48:06.250
Nothing

923
00:48:06.250 --> 00:48:09.686
in depth, but there is a save
the date that you may have all seen.

924
00:48:10.354 --> 00:48:13.891
The IU WHO is having a golf tournament
to raise money

925
00:48:14.658 --> 00:48:18.428
for the other children
with challenges of special needs.

926
00:48:18.562 --> 00:48:23.934
So that will be on July 25th if anybody is
available and wanted to participate.

927
00:48:24.968 --> 00:48:27.971
Thank you.

928
00:48:28.105 --> 00:48:29.072
Are there any board members

929
00:48:29.072 --> 00:48:32.075
who would like to give a report
this evening?

930
00:48:32.109 --> 00:48:33.210
Yeah, this is true, Senior.

931
00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:37.581
I just wanted to thank the administration
for a recent effort.

932
00:48:38.615 --> 00:48:43.487
Upon request, they sent out a information

933
00:48:43.487 --> 00:48:47.491
to families of nine
through 12th graders in the district,

934
00:48:48.025 --> 00:48:52.562
seeing if any of them would be interested
in hosting a foreign exchange student

935
00:48:53.664 --> 00:48:56.667
from Brazil that will be coming in
to go to Hershey High School

936
00:48:57.367 --> 00:49:00.537
for this upcoming academic year
beginning in September,

937
00:49:01.438 --> 00:49:05.509
through an activity that I'm involved with
with the Hershey Rotary Club.

938
00:49:06.076 --> 00:49:08.211
They sponsor are

939
00:49:08.211 --> 00:49:12.749
foreign students, foreign students,
both inbound and outbound.

940
00:49:13.216 --> 00:49:16.219
And we were short one family.

941
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:21.792
And after the information was sent
to the ninth through 12th grade families

942
00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:25.929
over the weekend,
we now have three potential prospects for

943
00:49:26.897 --> 00:49:29.900
families willing to possibly host

944
00:49:30.534 --> 00:49:32.169
a student to fill the one gap that we had.

945
00:49:32.169 --> 00:49:35.172
So I just wanted to thank
the administration for the help with that.

946
00:49:35.973 --> 00:49:36.840
Thank you. Mr. Singer.

947
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.843
Are there any other board members
who would like to give a report

948
00:49:41.645 --> 00:49:44.081
documented
You have a superintendent's report?

949
00:49:44.081 --> 00:49:46.049
I do not have one this evening. Thank you.

950
00:49:46.049 --> 00:49:49.052
Thank you for board presence report.

951
00:49:50.921 --> 00:49:52.756
Just a reminder, we will not meet again

952
00:49:52.756 --> 00:49:56.426
until the second Monday in August.

953
00:49:57.060 --> 00:50:00.397
Since we are on our one meeting
in July summer schedule.

954
00:50:00.931 --> 00:50:02.132
And also, I just want to thank Mr.

955
00:50:02.132 --> 00:50:05.135
Powell for the communication survey
that went out today

956
00:50:05.435 --> 00:50:08.972
and reminder to district families
to check your email for that.

957
00:50:09.272 --> 00:50:11.975
It's a survey to kind of

958
00:50:11.975 --> 00:50:14.444
get your feedback and input on the way

959
00:50:14.444 --> 00:50:18.215
in which the communications from
the district are sent out.

960
00:50:18.949 --> 00:50:20.684
So thank you
for putting forth that effort.

961
00:50:20.684 --> 00:50:23.687
And I know the Communications Committee
did talk about that.

962
00:50:23.754 --> 00:50:26.523
So I think it's always great opportunity
to get that

963
00:50:26.523 --> 00:50:29.826
feedback
from those who are receiving the messages.

964
00:50:32.462 --> 00:50:35.198
Moving
on to our final recognition of citizens,

965
00:50:35.198 --> 00:50:38.435
this is an opportunity for residents
and taxpayers to address

966
00:50:38.468 --> 00:50:42.506
the board on matters related to the agenda
or matters of district governance

967
00:50:42.506 --> 00:50:44.141
that were not on the agenda.

968
00:50:44.141 --> 00:50:47.044
Those who speak are asked
to follow the same guidelines outlined

969
00:50:47.044 --> 00:50:49.413
at the initial public comment
portion of our meeting

970
00:50:49.413 --> 00:50:50.847
and I will ask board Treasurer, Mrs.

971
00:50:50.847 --> 00:50:52.049
Seger, to please keep time.

972
00:50:52.049 --> 00:50:53.183
Once again,

973
00:50:53.183 --> 00:50:56.119
are there any residents or taxpayers
who would like to comment on this

974
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:57.654
at this time?

975
00:50:57.654 --> 00:51:01.024
We have one in person in the audience,
so we'll go ahead

976
00:51:01.024 --> 00:51:04.027
and get started in person
and then move to virtual

977
00:51:04.961 --> 00:51:06.763
everybody. My name is Brendan Foster.

978
00:51:06.763 --> 00:51:09.766
I live at 2439 Raleigh Road

979
00:51:10.600 --> 00:51:14.071
and I am a 2016 graduate of Hershey
High School,

980
00:51:14.071 --> 00:51:16.473
and I wanted to weigh
in regarding the challenges

981
00:51:16.473 --> 00:51:20.277
the books engender by Iris Gottlieb
that was discussed last meeting,

982
00:51:21.144 --> 00:51:22.946
because it seems to me
that the voices of young people

983
00:51:22.946 --> 00:51:24.681
were underrepresented in that discussion.

984
00:51:24.681 --> 00:51:25.816
And this is probably not going

985
00:51:25.816 --> 00:51:28.819
to be the last challenge
that this board will hear.

986
00:51:29.219 --> 00:51:31.354
So first off,
I understand that this book deals

987
00:51:31.354 --> 00:51:34.391
with tough topics,
but the issues it discusses are real

988
00:51:34.391 --> 00:51:38.662
and they affect kids in this district
when it comes to LGBTQ issues.

989
00:51:39.830 --> 00:51:42.699
Kids need these resources in schools
because they may

990
00:51:42.699 --> 00:51:46.436
or may not be ready
to come out on to their parents.

991
00:51:47.170 --> 00:51:50.173
I was friends with students who were
in that position when I was a student here

992
00:51:51.007 --> 00:51:53.677
with regards to race and policing.

993
00:51:53.677 --> 00:51:59.549
I saw police brutality affect my community
personally, almost one police officer

994
00:51:59.549 --> 00:52:03.487
shot the unarmed David Kassick in the back
while he was lying on the ground.

995
00:52:04.054 --> 00:52:07.057
I was 16 when that happened.

996
00:52:07.057 --> 00:52:10.060
That's why
these resources are necessary for kids.

997
00:52:12.262 --> 00:52:13.930
Just because some people don't make it

998
00:52:13.930 --> 00:52:17.100
because it makes them uncomfortable
doesn't mean adults can come in and say,

999
00:52:17.834 --> 00:52:20.837
You don't understand this issue,
so you're not allowed to read about it.

1000
00:52:20.837 --> 00:52:22.272
Sorry,

1001
00:52:22.272 --> 00:52:24.908
that signals to kids
that school is not a place for education,

1002
00:52:24.908 --> 00:52:28.812
but it's a place where they're not allowed
to learn the issues that affect them.

1003
00:52:30.180 --> 00:52:31.748
It's somehow an appropriate and shameful

1004
00:52:31.748 --> 00:52:33.950
to talk about things
that they already lived through.

1005
00:52:33.950 --> 00:52:36.086
That's ridiculous.

1006
00:52:36.086 --> 00:52:38.788
I don't want my child reading this,
therefore no one gets to read it.

1007
00:52:38.788 --> 00:52:41.491
That's ridiculous.

1008
00:52:41.491 --> 00:52:43.293
Do you have more specific example
I want to address?

1009
00:52:43.293 --> 00:52:45.595
Some comments are made by certain
non school board members.

1010
00:52:45.595 --> 00:52:48.165
Without naming names,

1011
00:52:48.165 --> 00:52:51.234
one objected to part of the book
that stated that young black men

1012
00:52:51.234 --> 00:52:54.304
face a catch 22
when dealing with police officers

1013
00:52:54.304 --> 00:52:57.307
because it's dangerous.

1014
00:52:57.507 --> 00:52:59.976
That's in air quotes
for people listening at home.

1015
00:52:59.976 --> 00:53:00.877
And I

1016
00:53:00.877 --> 00:53:04.247
that this board member disagreed with
his point of view because he didn't vibe

1017
00:53:04.247 --> 00:53:06.283
with his personal experience
as a police officer.

1018
00:53:06.283 --> 00:53:11.855
But that's anecdotal and frankly,
marisco has statistics on his side.

1019
00:53:12.522 --> 00:53:15.158
And what does that mean?
Kids can't read it.

1020
00:53:15.158 --> 00:53:19.262
It seems to me like this was an attempt
to use power as a school board member

1021
00:53:19.262 --> 00:53:24.000
to suppress perfectly valid criticism
of policing as an institution in America.

1022
00:53:24.901 --> 00:53:28.171
It's not dangerous for kids to be exposed
for a point of view that might change

1023
00:53:28.171 --> 00:53:31.841
their mind on an issue, especially when it
criticizes public servants.

1024
00:53:32.175 --> 00:53:34.377
You know, police have a lot of power.

1025
00:53:34.377 --> 00:53:37.380
What we should be telling
kids is the government needs to be

1026
00:53:37.380 --> 00:53:40.450
scrutinized, including public servants
such as police officers.

1027
00:53:40.951 --> 00:53:44.487
You know, I thought we were teaching kids
to participate in a democracy here.

1028
00:53:44.487 --> 00:53:47.157
Like suddenly police are beyond criticism.

1029
00:53:48.625 --> 00:53:51.628
Calling it dangerous is a lame excuse,
frankly.

1030
00:53:51.661 --> 00:53:54.164
Now, I don't want this to be all negative,
so I want to talk about what

1031
00:53:54.164 --> 00:53:57.901
I want to see the school board
do here on September 18th.

1032
00:53:58.034 --> 00:54:00.870
It's coming up. It's Banned Books Week.

1033
00:54:00.870 --> 00:54:03.807
Why not encourage teachers and librarians
to talk to kids

1034
00:54:03.807 --> 00:54:06.810
about why
certain materials are being targeted?

1035
00:54:07.043 --> 00:54:10.880
You know, the American Library Association
has a list of the top ten books.

1036
00:54:11.114 --> 00:54:13.183
They're most challenged by year.

1037
00:54:13.183 --> 00:54:16.753
You know, we should be teaching kids
that they have both the freedom

1038
00:54:16.753 --> 00:54:19.889
and the intellectual capacity
to understand these issues

1039
00:54:20.223 --> 00:54:24.194
without the fear of adults coming in
and saying, you don't really understand

1040
00:54:24.194 --> 00:54:27.197
this issue, therefore
you're not allowed to read about it.

1041
00:54:27.664 --> 00:54:30.700
Of course they can understand the issue
because they're already living

1042
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.103
through these issues.
And I've got my time. Thank you.

1043
00:54:37.507 --> 00:54:38.942
Thank you.

1044
00:54:38.942 --> 00:54:42.412
I see one virtual hand raised,
so we'll go ahead and permission.

1045
00:54:42.412 --> 00:54:45.415
Jennifer Lehr, please.

1046
00:54:45.649 --> 00:54:47.684
Ms.. Leery,
you should now be muted and go ahead

1047
00:54:47.684 --> 00:54:50.687
and start with your name and address
for the record, please.

1048
00:54:50.887 --> 00:54:55.358
My name is Jennifer Lehr and I live at
eight Spring Creek Manor in Hershey.

1049
00:54:56.159 --> 00:55:00.196
I'm a former law school professor
and mother of an LGBTQ daughter.

1050
00:55:00.363 --> 00:55:04.167
And first I wanted to thank Brendon
for his insightful comments.

1051
00:55:04.868 --> 00:55:08.071
I read the same gender cover to cover,

1052
00:55:08.204 --> 00:55:11.508
and I think it's an exceptional resource
for our middle school library.

1053
00:55:12.309 --> 00:55:15.278
My daughter began her identity

1054
00:55:15.278 --> 00:55:18.281
when she was three, 22 years ago,

1055
00:55:19.082 --> 00:55:23.053
as open as communication between us
was and continued to be

1056
00:55:23.053 --> 00:55:27.057
while she wrestled with her identity
during elementary and middle school,

1057
00:55:27.957 --> 00:55:30.226
she did a lot of research on her own

1058
00:55:30.226 --> 00:55:33.229
and struggled for a long time
without sharing her thoughts.

1059
00:55:33.797 --> 00:55:36.399
To have this book available to her

1060
00:55:36.399 --> 00:55:40.103
and to us to help
navigate this period in her life

1061
00:55:40.870 --> 00:55:45.608
and give us tools to deal with others
reactions would have been life changing.

1062
00:55:46.576 --> 00:55:48.945
There are four primary reasons
I support the school

1063
00:55:48.945 --> 00:55:51.948
board's vote
to keep this book in the middle school.

1064
00:55:52.716 --> 00:55:56.252
First,
let's allow the librarians, teachers

1065
00:55:56.252 --> 00:55:58.855
and superintendent to do their jobs.

1066
00:55:58.855 --> 00:56:00.924
They are the experts.

1067
00:56:00.924 --> 00:56:04.494
Second, no parent or group of parents

1068
00:56:04.728 --> 00:56:08.631
should decide what other children can read
or have access to.

1069
00:56:09.499 --> 00:56:12.502
In the age of the Internet
and social media,

1070
00:56:12.569 --> 00:56:17.040
the protective urge to shield
children may do more harm than good

1071
00:56:17.374 --> 00:56:21.177
if it fails to adequately prepare them
for life beyond the classroom,

1072
00:56:21.978 --> 00:56:25.882
there are billboards in our area
containing the sentence, quote,

1073
00:56:26.249 --> 00:56:29.085
Sex trafficking happens here.

1074
00:56:29.085 --> 00:56:32.188
Passages in the Bible
that mentioned prostitute Ution

1075
00:56:32.722 --> 00:56:35.725
and the topics that some have expressed
concern about

1076
00:56:36.059 --> 00:56:38.962
are ubiquitous in the news.

1077
00:56:38.962 --> 00:56:41.965
Third,
in finding the book to be age appropriate,

1078
00:56:42.265 --> 00:56:46.102
the committee understood the importance
of considering the book as a whole

1079
00:56:46.603 --> 00:56:50.340
rather than get distracted
by individual sentences or passages.

1080
00:56:51.207 --> 00:56:55.612
Still, even if we focus on the sections
of the book that received attention

1081
00:56:55.612 --> 00:56:59.482
at the last meeting those addressing
sex work and police violence,

1082
00:56:59.983 --> 00:57:03.653
they are exactly the type of introduction
to critical thinking

1083
00:57:03.887 --> 00:57:07.023
about culturally relevant
materials and pedagogy

1084
00:57:07.323 --> 00:57:10.326
that is essential for students
academic success.

1085
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.632
Those passages provide definitions,
explanations of related issues,

1086
00:57:15.965 --> 00:57:18.902
and an acknowledgment
that the issues can be complex

1087
00:57:18.902 --> 00:57:23.139
and divisive, particularly
as they intersect with concepts

1088
00:57:23.139 --> 00:57:26.810
of gender, race
and other identifying features.

1089
00:57:27.677 --> 00:57:30.980
This complexity is not reason
to move the book to the high school.

1090
00:57:31.381 --> 00:57:34.184
Nor is the inability of adults
on the board to agree

1091
00:57:34.184 --> 00:57:36.519
on the meaning of certain passages.

1092
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:41.191
A reason to conclude the book is not age
appropriate discussion and debate

1093
00:57:41.191 --> 00:57:46.296
about significant issues are healthy
and rarely present easy answers

1094
00:57:47.263 --> 00:57:48.565
for the

1095
00:57:48.565 --> 00:57:52.902
value of providing access
to a book that validates the struggles

1096
00:57:52.902 --> 00:57:58.741
LGBTQ students face, provides resources
and reassures them they aren't alone,

1097
00:57:59.175 --> 00:58:02.312
particularly those who feel
they can't talk to their parents.

1098
00:58:02.712 --> 00:58:07.517
Must take precedence
over the fears of parents who would rather

1099
00:58:07.517 --> 00:58:10.653
not discuss some of the book's passages
with their children.

1100
00:58:11.521 --> 00:58:13.890
Censorship and book banning

1101
00:58:13.890 --> 00:58:16.893
reflect fear of perspectives
other than our own.

1102
00:58:17.327 --> 00:58:20.964
One of the goals of a book
like this is to present counter

1103
00:58:20.964 --> 00:58:24.601
perspectives and explore
multifaceted issues.

1104
00:58:24.968 --> 00:58:25.568
As Dr.

1105
00:58:25.568 --> 00:58:28.571
Winslow explained, the overarching

1106
00:58:28.571 --> 00:58:33.476
and explicit messages
from this book emphasize kindness,

1107
00:58:33.743 --> 00:58:39.215
connectedness, empathy
and learning over fear and judgment.

1108
00:58:39.716 --> 00:58:42.452
And as the author says, quote, I'm

1109
00:58:42.452 --> 00:58:45.421
trying to represent those stories
less told.

1110
00:58:45.722 --> 00:58:48.224
Show the people who need to be seen,

1111
00:58:48.224 --> 00:58:51.694
who need to see themselves
represented, to feel less alone

1112
00:58:52.161 --> 00:58:56.733
and to teach different perspectives
for those who are open to learning.

1113
00:58:57.600 --> 00:58:59.102
Fear difference.

1114
00:58:59.102 --> 00:59:00.737
You learn nothing.

1115
00:59:00.737 --> 00:59:04.173
Think about how brave those students
who checked out this book had to be.

1116
00:59:04.707 --> 00:59:07.844
Parents should muster the same bravery

1117
00:59:08.077 --> 00:59:11.080
and discuss challenging
subjects in books with their kids.

1118
00:59:11.347 --> 00:59:15.385
And if those parents choose not to have
those discussions with their children,

1119
00:59:15.752 --> 00:59:18.855
we should not punish the students
who need this information.

1120
00:59:19.322 --> 00:59:22.325
By depriving them of this exceptional
resource.

1121
00:59:22.525 --> 00:59:22.992
Thank you.

1122
00:59:26.763 --> 00:59:28.398
Thank you.

1123
00:59:28.398 --> 00:59:31.234
Is there anyone else in virtual attendance
who would like to participate

1124
00:59:31.234 --> 00:59:34.237
in public comment?

1125
00:59:45.415 --> 00:59:46.749
Seeing no hands raised,

1126
00:59:46.749 --> 00:59:49.752
is there anything else
for the good of the order?

1127
00:59:51.955 --> 00:59:53.623
The next Public Board of Directors

1128
00:59:53.623 --> 00:59:57.760
meeting will be held
August eight, 2022, beginning at 7:00 PM.

1129
00:59:58.161 --> 00:59:59.662
Please refer to the district website

1130
00:59:59.662 --> 01:00:02.665
to register for virtual attendance
as the meeting draws closer.

1131
01:00:02.799 --> 01:00:04.033
May I have a meeting?

1132
01:00:04.033 --> 01:00:06.002
Motion to adjourn this meeting, please.

1133
01:00:06.002 --> 01:00:08.972
Sal moves. Maria. Mimi second. Mike Rizzo.

1134
01:00:08.972 --> 01:00:09.572
All in favor.

1135
01:00:09.572 --> 01:00:10.940
Say hi. Hi.

1136
01:00:10.940 --> 01:00:13.943
Any say no.

1137
01:00:14.110 --> 01:00:16.613
The meeting is adjourned at 8:05 p.m..

1138
01:00:16.613 --> 01:00:19.616
Thank you.

1139
01:00:21.150 --> 01:00:24.153
Recording

1140
01:00:27.790 --> 01:00:30.760
the recording?

1141
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:30.960
Yeah.