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I like to call the October 11,

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2022 meeting of the Derry Township School
District Board of Directors to order

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and announce that this meeting
is being livestreamed and audio recorded.

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This meeting is being conducted
both in-person and virtually,

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and I would ask that board members
please state your name when speaking.

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Mrs.. E.g. Roll call, please. Mr. Bennett.

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President.

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Dr. Cronin.

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Dear Mr.. You Hear.

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Hear.

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This is many here. Mr. RIZZO. Here.

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This is Schmidt. Here.

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Mrs. Singer.

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Here. Mr. Singer. Here.

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Nine present.

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Thank you.

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Please rise if you're able, and join me
for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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For. United.

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States of.

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America and to the public. Relations.

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One nation under God

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and all.

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Please have a motion

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to approve the October 11, 2022
Board of Directors meeting agenda.

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So moved Grammy.

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Second
Mike Rizzo. Is there any discussion?

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This is a standard voice vote.

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All those in favor,
please say I oppose say no.

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Anything agenda is approved.

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I would like to announce that the board
did not meet in executive session today.

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So we will go right
into our first recognition of citizens

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portion of the meeting
for specifically for agenda items.

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This is an opportunity
for residents and taxpayers to address

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the board on matters
related to the agenda.

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Citizens wishing to speak
should come to the microphone

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or raise their virtual hand
if attending virtually.

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You must have registered individually
with your first and last name

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in order to be recognized.

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Once recognized at the podium or unmuted,
please state your full name and address

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for the record.

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This is a reminder
that public comment is not a forum

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for personal attacks,
antagonistic behavior or harassment.

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Please be advised that you are accountable
for any legal ramifications

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and liability
which may result from statements

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misrepresenting the truth,
defaming individuals

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or disclosing personal information,
not of public concern

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to provide other residents
with an opportunity to speak.

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Each speaker
during a public comment portion

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is limited to 5 minutes of speaking time
once recognized and limited

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to one opportunity to address the board
during each of the public comment periods.

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If necessary,
the board may set a maximum time

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for the public comment
portion of any meeting.

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I'll ask Board Treasurer, Mrs.

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Decker to please keep time.

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Are there any residents or taxpayers
who would like to comment

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on agenda related items at this time?

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I don't see anyone here in the audience,

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so I would welcome anyone who is

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attending virtually
to please raise your hand

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at this time

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seeing none.

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I will close the first public comment
period

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and we'll move on to standing
committee meeting reports.

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The Curriculum Council was canceled
for today, but Athletics and Activities

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Committee did meet at 5 p.m.

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where Dr. Cooke was elected
as the new committee chair.

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Dr. Cooke, do you have a report for us?

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I do, yes.

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So we met for the first time
in quite a while today.

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We welcomed our two new citizen advisors
and then Mr.

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Monteiro gave us an athletic overview.

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Just opened with a lot of the

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motley with a lot of our sports teams

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and the Keystone Division champions
we had in a couple of our sports recently.

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We discussed intramural activities
and what this could potentially look like,

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what we might be able to offer ways
to increase student engagement

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through this route.

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And we're going to continue to explore
some of those ideas.

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Mr. Monk Doro
also filled us in with staffing,

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and he relayed
that staffing is getting harder.

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But we're lucky at this moment
that we have

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all of our positions filled for winter,
and spring is also looking good.

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Let's see.

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Oh, we do have a Thursday night
football game. This

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this season because we discussed

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some problems with not problems, but

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it's difficult to get officials right now.

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So he had shared that
the MID-PENN conference

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is taking several steps
to try and boost interest in officiating.

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And we had a discussion of what
that could look like and how we can get

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interest
and information out to the community.

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And having a Thursday night football game
this season was one of the ways

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that we were handling
the official shortage.

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We discussed advertising
and the process to get anything

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that's going to be approved
for the content and advertisements

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and what that could look like
for the future.

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We also reviewed a parent athletic survey

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that the committee is going to take a look
at and give some feedback for that.

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We hope to be able to get out
soon to parents

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who had children participating in sports
at both the middle school and high school.

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Mr. Matador

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is also looking at revising
the athletic handbook and so we're

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also we have some copies of that,
and we're going to also read through that

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and give him some feedback
on what that can look like.

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But really just strengthening
the information that we have.

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So part a part
for coaches, a part for students,

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so everybody really knows
what's expected of them.

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And I believe that is it.

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We meet again March 13th.

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I would just like to add this, Donna

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Cronan, my appreciation for Lindsey
for stepping up to chair the committee

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and and having a very robust
agenda is very, very good meeting.

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Thank you.

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Ms.. Karp, how do you have a community
correspondence report?

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I do. Thank you. Okay.

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So the for the month of September,

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the district received six community
correspondence submissions.

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The comments and questions for this month
included three requests for records.

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One comment
about registration information,

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comment regarding the recognition
of citizen portion on.

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Our September 12th meeting
and a question about curriculum.

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And that's it. Thank you. Thanks.

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Moving on to student

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representatives reports Representatives
Aziz Forster and Patel.

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Do you have a report for us this evening?

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My gosh. Um.

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I'm disappointed, by the way.

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It's just reiterating
that there'll be a PTA meeting

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this Thursday, October 13th
at 930 for the elementary building.

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The annual Peatos Book
Fair will be Friday, October 14th

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to Friday, October 21st.

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And then with that, the elementary school
PTO book,

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their family Night
will be October 18th at 530.

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And then the track and the Trojan Buddies
track and field Day

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that was originally supposed to be this
Thursday is now postponed to October 31st.

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The homecoming pep rally is during
the school day this Friday, October 14th,

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and the football game
that same evening will start at 7 p.m..

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Okay.

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This is Olivia Forester at that homecoming
game.

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Hershey Youth

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cheerleading will be joining varsity
cheerleaders during the first quarter.

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The Hershey High School homecoming dance

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is occurring
October 15th from 7 to 10 p.m.

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and the school cafeteria.

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The band and orchestra is performing
their first concert at 7:30 p.m.

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in the auditorium on October 18th.

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Also,
some student groups are participating

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in the hallway break
that will be occurring on October 19th.

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Hi everyone.

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My name is.

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Today's Honors is the fall fest from
Anytown will be next Friday,

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October 31st
from 530 to 730 at the high school.

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More information
coming soon from our lovely president.

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Also, our high school cheerleaders
such as Olivia Forester

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will be cheering at the Navy game
in Annapolis on October 22nd.

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The freshman pageant night
hosted by the school counselors is

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at 6 p.m. on Zoom.

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There's still not a date set yet,
and end of the first marking period

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is looming October 28th.

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Also,
the Trojan 20 is a band and orchestra

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competition that lasts all October
between all the schools in the district.

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So that's pretty exciting.

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Thank you and I appreciate you
covering all of the buildings.

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It's great to
hear all the things going on.

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The items that are listed
on the screen are on the anticipated

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October 24th, 2022 Board of Directors
meeting agenda,

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and there was no unfinished business
for this evening.

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So we'll move right into consent agenda
which contains routinely adopted items

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and items

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that normally do not require public
deliberation on the part of the board.

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A board member may pull items which will
then be discussed and voted on separately.

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May I please have a motion to approve
the consent agenda items as listed?

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So move to Kathy, Chika Maria. Mimi.

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Is there any discussion?

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Yeah.

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I'd like to pull one of the textbooks
up for discussion, please.

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Sure.

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Which?

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The Bronx Masquerade.

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Okay,

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so then I have a go.

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Correct me if I'm doing a strong motion
to approve the consent agenda items

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as amended to remove the specific item
under four C Bronx Masquerade.

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All other items will be contained.

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For completely one.

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Look at it. For the whole textbook. Okay.

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So then motion to approve the consent
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as amended to pull out item for C.

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Are you going to do a roll call?
Vote for that?

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No, not for you.

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We're just doing consent agenda
without item for C right now,

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and then we'll vote on item for C
individually.

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Got it.

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So I'll need a motion to approve
as amended.

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I make that motion.

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Second.

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Second. Erica Schmitt.

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Thank you.

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This is a standard voice vote.

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All those in favor, please say I.

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Any oppose, say no consent agenda
as a whole.

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Minus for C is approved.

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Well, then do item for C separately,

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which is approval of textbooks.

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I will need a motion to approve

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the following textbooks for

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use in the 2022 2023 school year.

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The title Bronx Masquerade.

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The title Metro Thieves and Title
Orbiting Jupiter.

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These textbooks are reviewed and approved
to the June 13th 2022 Curriculum Council

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meeting and funding for the recommendation
is included in the 2022

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2023 budget.

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Please have a motion to approve item
four C.

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So move to Kathy Sticker second.

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Miriam. Amie, Is there any discussion?

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I just have just one question.

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You said for C four.

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I'm not seeing any letters and numbers.

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It was for C in the consent agenda.

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So for B is request of use.

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Request reads the school facilities for C
is approval of textbooks.

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Yeah.

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Over here. Yep.

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I don't see any letters and numbers
that's on.

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It's. It's like it's.

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Going after my script. Were the letters.

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Okay, so

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section four consent agenda items C
Oh, I'm sorry.

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That's. Okay. Thank you.

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And this is Don Krohn.

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I just want to make sure
I recall this correctly, that these books

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were being approved for inclusion

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in a list of potential read aloud books.

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They weren't they're not necessarily
a book that will be assigned

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and read is just part of a library.

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Is that right?

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I want to make sure I get that
there are three read aloud books

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that they would like
to be able to choose from,

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So they would not be doing all three
every year, but these would be three

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that could be potentially read
aloud to the classes.

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And is this in addition
to previously approved read aloud boxers

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this what they're saying
they just want these three to be options

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for the show though these are
these are in addition in it's

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there's a pretty substantial library
of read along books of transcript. Yes

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so to the question

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I do this is Erica Schmidt

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so I thought
we pulled that one out to discuss.

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But are we discussing all three of these?

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So currently,
the way that they're set up in the agenda

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is that they are all three under one item
for approval of textbooks.

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So we removed it from content agenda
and are now doing it as a standalone item.

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But the item as agenda ized is all three.

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And we can't pull one out anymore
because we could.

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Motion to amend, correct.

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You can't pull one item out of consent.

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Student Yes, that's just not the way
it is on the agenda.

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But excuse me. You do that.

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We have to make

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the whole item of textbooks
within the agenda.

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Item of textbooks
they're all voted on is yes or no.

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So we have to change the agenda item
if we wanted to.

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Further.

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It's an iterative process, right?

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Yeah.

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I don't know that we're that far along yet
because I'm not sure what the questions

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or the issues are,
but if you wanted to just separate that,

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it would have to be a separate item.

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So you would have to amend that.
Oh, I thought.

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We did that.

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Okay, now you. Just hold it. Yeah.

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So we just pulled it.

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We pulled it from consent to address it
separately,

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then moved the item as a whole
so that we could discuss it.

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If you wanted to pull
just one of those out,

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then you would make a motion
to amend this item

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to separate

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one of the books.

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Okay, So I will make a motion
to separate the Bronx Tale from the other

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two books and

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so I can be discussed.

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Bronx Tales. Not on here, Bronx Guys.

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I apologize.

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It's a movie dated myself,
I think Bronx Masquerade.

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So there's a motion on the floor
to separate the item approval of textbooks

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to make the Bronx Masquerade a motion,

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to make it a standalone separate item.

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So we'll vote.

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So we would vote on the motion as amended
for Marathon and orbiting Jupiter,

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and then of a standalone item, vote
for Bronx Masquerade.

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Which

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so, you know.

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So motion on the floor

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is to make Bronx Masquerade a separate
standing item.

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Procedural is

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it's like

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testing antacids.

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It's yes, it's just rewording
basically what we're doing now.

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So strike the motion on the floor
if if that's agreeable.

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Correct me if I'm wrong. Mr. Bennett, your

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vote on this

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for the masquerade, correct?

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You wanted that, correct.

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So I make a motion to remove
the Bronx Masquerade from the other.

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That motion was that against the motion?

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A second and a vote to amend.

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Mr. Bennett, would you like

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to make a motion to amend this item
to remove Bronx Masquerade?

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Yes, I'd like to make that motion.

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Is there a second to that motion?

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Second. Erica Schmidt.

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All those in favor to amend the item

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as discussed? Say I.

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I any opposed say no. No,

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or I'm sorry, Mrs.

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A.J., could you actually do a roll call
for that, please?

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Mr. Bennett? Yes.

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Dr. KERNAN? Yes.

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Ms.. Drew? Yes.

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Dr. Cook? Yes.

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Mrs. Manning? No.

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Mr. Rizzo. Yes.

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Mr. Schmidt. Yes.

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Mrs. Sicker. Now,

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Mr. Singer. Yes.

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Seven. Yes.

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Two now.

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So the motion to separate the item
on the floor

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to remove
Bronx Masquerade is approved 7 to 2.

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We will now,
I will now have a motion to approve the

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item approval of textbooks with Morosi

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and orbiting Jupiter as amended.

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So moved Lindsey Cup second.

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Donna Cronan.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is you

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could you roll call
Vote this again, please?

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Dr. Burnham. Yes.

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That's true. Yes.

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Dr. Cook.

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Yes, This is many. Yes.

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Mr. Rizzo. Yes.

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Mr. Schmidt. Yes.

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Mrs. Seger? Yes.

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Mr. Singer. Yes.

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Mr. Bennett.

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Yes. Nine. Yes.

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So the item, as amended with
those two books, is approved.

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Is there a motion to.

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Approve your agenda at.

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Is there a motion to amend the agenda
to add an item

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to approve Bronx Masquerade
as an agenda item.

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So moved on a crime second Lindsay Cup?

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Is there any discussion?

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All those in

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favor say I, I and the oppose say no.

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The agenda is amended to include

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the item
Bronx Masquerade as a standalone item,

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which we will do
at the end of new business.

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Moving on to new business,

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first item, the board recommends
the citizen advisors as listed.

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May I please have a motion to approve
So moved.

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Maria Me.

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Second, Donna Cronan.

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Is there any discussion?

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Yes, I'm just going to
I just want to make a statement

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just to say that I will be voting
no for this just because I don't agree

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with the process of application
utilization.

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And that's it. Very simply.

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Thank you.

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Is there any other discussion?

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This is Erica Schmidt.

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Is there like.

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A are.

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We allowed to discuss why. That you.

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Felt that it was not

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me? I'm on the committee and as a whole,

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we the majority approved the list,
as it were, standing.

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So as part of that approval,
but as an individual board member

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in this forum, I didn't agree with
the process of application utilization.

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I also don't want to know. It's h.r.

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It's just i want to get into it.

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I you know, i'm
i'm used to it in a work environment.

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You're looking at applications
and filling things based on applications.

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And i didn't feel that
that was 100% followed, so I just didn't

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I won't be approving it.

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Okay. Just my own personal feeling.

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Sorry.

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There.

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Any other.

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Discussions, but.

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It was zero copies.

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Mr.. Yes.

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Dr.. COOK. Yes.

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This is Mimi. Yes.

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Mr.. RIZZO. Yes.

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Mr.. SCHMITT No.

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It's a sticker. Yes.

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Mr. Singer. Yes.

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Mr. Bennett. Yes.

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Dr. Corona. No.

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To oppose seven. Yes.

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Thank you.

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Personnel Resignations.

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Dr. Winslow.

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Administration recommends.

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Sorry, the approval
of the personnel resignations.

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Thank you.

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May I please have a motion
to approve personnel resignations?

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So moved. Maria Me.

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Second. Donna Cronan.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is a standard voice vote.

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All those in favor,
please say I any oppose, say no

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Personnel resignations
as approved personnel.

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General Dr. Windsor, the.

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Administration recommends

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the approval of the list of personnel
and recognition of any listed transfers.

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Thank you.

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May I please have a motion

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to approve the list of personnel
and recognition of any listed transfers?

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So moved. Kathy Second. Second.
Maria. Mimi.

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Is there any discussion?

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This is a standard voice vote.

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All those in favor
say I any oppose, Say no

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impasses moving onto the new five D,

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which will be approval of the textbook
Bronx Masquerade.

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The administration recommends
the approval of the following textbook

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for the use in 2020 to 2023 school year.

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As previously discussed, Franks Masquerade
may have a motion to approve this item.

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Some of Kathy Secor Second.

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Maria Mimi, Is there any discussion?

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Yes. Robert Bennett So after

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reading a majority of

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this book, one, there is a tale of the 18
kids that, you know,

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poetry and the one that I feel concerning
for a read

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along,
read aloud application in the library.

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Fine kids get the book out.
I'm not trying to ban books.

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I know that's the thing that you talk
about that's on my agenda here.

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The problem
I have is one involves a sexual assault.

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So she's it's a domestic
violence and sexual assault.

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This this girl subjected to and she goes
to school the next day with the guy

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and trying to hide her bruises
and not tell anybody what happened.

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That's
kind of a footnote version of what it is.

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So for the school to have this read
aloud to every single kid,

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it's not really the appropriate way

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to have a sexual assault
or domestic violence be handled like

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from a parental perspective,
that is not how I want my daughter

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to handle that or whoever to handle
a sexual assault, domestic violence.

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So to have that read where it's kind of
like ignored and they try and hide it

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and they'll tell anybody,
I think that sends

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kind of the wrong message
to eighth graders on it.

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This happens to you.

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This is a viable option
because I don't think we should be

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endorsing that approach to a victim
of either domestic or sexual assault.

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So to have it read aloud ever since eighth

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grader is an option,
I don't think it's appropriate.

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As we say,
there's many other books to pick from.

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So, you know, to have just got put on
so air on the side of caution,

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I say this book should not be an option
for eighth grade.

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Read aloud in the library.
Want to get it out? Great.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Bennett.

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One of our student representatives

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has a hand raise,
so invite them to participate.

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Is this working?

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Okay. Can you just state your name
before you tweet?

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Well, to make just a little closer. So I.

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Am. Well, I'm pleased, honestly,

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personally, having read the book,
when I was in eighth grade,

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I felt like Bronx Masquerade
great was a book

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that we should have in our curriculum
because it provides

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a different perspective
from the one that we have in Hershey.

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Because at the end,
the name Hershey is a small community and

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obviously there's different.

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Obviously, Hershey isn't perfect,
but it's by far a well-off community.

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And the Bronx Masquerade.

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A Bronx masquerade

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basically gives a different perspective
on community and how there's different

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troubles in the community
and how kids can learn and grow from them.

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Obviously,
you know, you don't want to trigger

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anyone who's had a sexual assault passed
or something happened to them,

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but in my opinion, I think it's good to

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for students to broaden their horizons
because Hershey's kind of a bubble

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and we need to

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do an instance to basically explore
and find out that the world isn't perfect.

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In my opinion. I

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think you.

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Donna Cronin,
I'm just speaking from the hip here

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because I really value
both of those opinions.

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And I when I came in, I usually don't
have the idea of,

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of banning books at all, but I guess
is one of a relative utilization.

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And I think it's important to know what.

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But when you said Faizan
in terms of letting kids

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be exposed to things,
but what I'm thinking in my head is

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you're a very mature

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writer, is my guest.

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The topic in general
for middle school, I'm

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starting to think maybe.

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Bob. Bob's comments

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in terms of a read
aloud exposure to everyone, not by trained

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00:24:27.499 --> 00:24:31.837
domestic violence
people may not be the best idea.

502
00:24:31.837 --> 00:24:32.938
I'm not against it.

503
00:24:32.938 --> 00:24:37.142
In the library and I certainly think
would be a great high school

504
00:24:37.442 --> 00:24:39.010
book for a more mature audience.

505
00:24:39.010 --> 00:24:42.280
So just in hearing
both those two conflicting

506
00:24:42.714 --> 00:24:46.284
viewpoints,
I realize this is not an easy answer,

507
00:24:47.252 --> 00:24:48.987
but I think I

508
00:24:48.987 --> 00:24:54.426
am leaning towards not having it as a read
along or read aloud for everyone,

509
00:24:54.860 --> 00:24:57.863
but to have it available

510
00:24:58.263 --> 00:25:02.067
and certainly make sure
that students know and reinforce.

511
00:25:02.100 --> 00:25:05.537
And then any time they are coming up
with any type of curriculum,

512
00:25:05.537 --> 00:25:08.540
if it's chosen books to read
that there are

513
00:25:09.407 --> 00:25:12.377
guidance counselors or whatever
that are at least more trained

514
00:25:12.377 --> 00:25:15.380
in dealing with whatever issues they have

515
00:25:16.648 --> 00:25:19.050
with any content
that they're dealing with.

516
00:25:19.050 --> 00:25:21.686
So this isn't a straight

517
00:25:21.686 --> 00:25:24.689
a straight, simple, straightforward

518
00:25:24.789 --> 00:25:27.792
issue for me,
but I think I'm leaning towards

519
00:25:28.660 --> 00:25:32.931
Bob's comments
but very respectful of citizens input.

520
00:25:32.931 --> 00:25:33.832
Thank you both.

521
00:25:33.832 --> 00:25:38.103
I would like to recognize that in the
entire history of me being on this board,

522
00:25:38.103 --> 00:25:42.841
we have never had a student representative
speak out for something like that.

523
00:25:42.841 --> 00:25:45.977
So I give you
absolutely a ton of credit for doing that.

524
00:25:45.977 --> 00:25:46.845
Thank you very much.

525
00:25:46.845 --> 00:25:48.446
I think the most valuable opinion

526
00:25:48.446 --> 00:25:52.817
at this table is one of a student
that is actually hands on read.

527
00:25:52.817 --> 00:25:54.386
It has their finger on the pulse.

528
00:25:54.386 --> 00:25:56.955
And I can't tell you how much I appreciate
you doing that. Thank you.

529
00:25:59.724 --> 00:26:00.792
Thank you.

530
00:26:00.792 --> 00:26:03.028
I will come and also
thank you for both opinions.

531
00:26:03.028 --> 00:26:05.864
I think that it's a,
you know, important conversation.

532
00:26:05.864 --> 00:26:08.600
It was part of the curriculum
council meeting

533
00:26:08.600 --> 00:26:11.703
the first time that this book
was discussed and had heard Mr.

534
00:26:11.703 --> 00:26:14.639
Bennett's feeling, you know, on this.

535
00:26:14.639 --> 00:26:17.642
And we had a pretty robust dialog

536
00:26:18.209 --> 00:26:20.745
in curriculum at that time as well,

537
00:26:20.745 --> 00:26:23.582
and had the English department

538
00:26:23.582 --> 00:26:27.252
teachers there, you know,
as part of the discussion for

539
00:26:27.419 --> 00:26:30.422
for who would actually be participating
with the students.

540
00:26:31.890 --> 00:26:33.992
I really I respect where Mr.

541
00:26:33.992 --> 00:26:36.394
Bennett's coming from,
from the parent perspective.

542
00:26:36.394 --> 00:26:39.397
And you know what

543
00:26:39.631 --> 00:26:42.467
exposure you know, you would want for
for your children to hear.

544
00:26:42.467 --> 00:26:45.470
I think I take a little bit of a different

545
00:26:45.737 --> 00:26:50.342
approach on that, which I shared
in Curriculum Council that as a victim

546
00:26:50.342 --> 00:26:55.146
of sexual assault while being a Hershey
High School student personally,

547
00:26:57.282 --> 00:26:58.450
I had never had any

548
00:26:58.450 --> 00:27:01.620
exposure in school
to what to do with that,

549
00:27:02.554 --> 00:27:06.257
what to where to go,
how to talk to a guidance counselor,

550
00:27:06.324 --> 00:27:10.195
how to talk to my parents,
how to tell my friends

551
00:27:11.463 --> 00:27:15.667
having to hide the bruises and deal with

552
00:27:15.667 --> 00:27:18.970
that as as an individual
at a very young age was

553
00:27:21.006 --> 00:27:24.976
something that takes a long time
to to recover from.

554
00:27:25.443 --> 00:27:28.013
So from that perspective, I am encouraged

555
00:27:28.013 --> 00:27:31.016
to see discussions like that happening
because

556
00:27:31.783 --> 00:27:34.786
it's something that's very real and

557
00:27:37.255 --> 00:27:40.258
looking at when for me personally,
I went through that,

558
00:27:40.425 --> 00:27:45.096
I wouldn't hearing it any later wouldn't
have been enough for me to have heard

559
00:27:45.096 --> 00:27:50.101
it, understood or potentially, you know,
taken it upon myself to to learn more.

560
00:27:50.101 --> 00:27:52.671
So I do support this being in here,

561
00:27:53.972 --> 00:27:55.540
you know, while respecting that parents

562
00:27:55.540 --> 00:27:59.377
have individual, you know, feelings
about things for their students.

563
00:27:59.377 --> 00:28:04.916
But I think that, you know, our teachers
do do a good job at making sure

564
00:28:04.916 --> 00:28:08.420
if they're sensitive content,
to deliver that in a way

565
00:28:09.287 --> 00:28:12.957
that is most appropriate
for the age of the students hearing it.

566
00:28:13.725 --> 00:28:17.662
And that, you know,
they would help to facilitate

567
00:28:17.662 --> 00:28:20.665
any additional conversation
that needed to happen.

568
00:28:20.732 --> 00:28:21.533
And this is Robert Bennett.

569
00:28:21.533 --> 00:28:22.067
Just to be clear,

570
00:28:22.067 --> 00:28:26.171
stop the sexual assault, domestic violence
content that I think is inappropriate.

571
00:28:26.871 --> 00:28:29.040
It's it's the way it is
handled in the story,

572
00:28:29.040 --> 00:28:32.110
presenting the message that you hide
your bruises, you do that.

573
00:28:32.310 --> 00:28:37.882
So somebody that's in that situation takes
that is that's an option good option

574
00:28:37.916 --> 00:28:41.886
B, doing so without having to knowing
what the discussion is

575
00:28:42.087 --> 00:28:43.121
or is not in the class.

576
00:28:43.121 --> 00:28:44.556
You know, somebody could walk out saying,

577
00:28:44.556 --> 00:28:46.591
thinking
that that is an appropriate response

578
00:28:46.591 --> 00:28:48.893
when you're a victim of domestic
or sexual assault.

579
00:28:48.893 --> 00:28:50.729
So it's not the content
I'm concerned about,

580
00:28:50.729 --> 00:28:54.265
it's the message it's sending on
how to deal with that if it happens. So

581
00:28:56.101 --> 00:28:58.703
maybe if that discussion would happen

582
00:28:58.703 --> 00:29:00.872
with an appropriate ending to the story,
if you will,

583
00:29:00.872 --> 00:29:03.241
then I probably would not sit here
having the issue with this.

584
00:29:03.241 --> 00:29:06.578
The fact that this the story in itself
ends with an issue

585
00:29:06.945 --> 00:29:10.749
not appropriately ended from
I think anybody's perspective like is

586
00:29:10.982 --> 00:29:14.252
anybody thinks that's an appropriate way
to deal with sexual or domestic assault.

587
00:29:14.252 --> 00:29:16.788
I encourage you to stand up,
say that's where you'd want it handled.

588
00:29:16.788 --> 00:29:20.258
So maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong
and that's somebody in here thinks that

589
00:29:20.258 --> 00:29:21.259
that's the way it should be handled.

590
00:29:21.259 --> 00:29:23.261
Then I stand corrected.

591
00:29:23.261 --> 00:29:23.762
But I think if.

592
00:29:23.762 --> 00:29:26.431
You read the book, start to finish.

593
00:29:26.431 --> 00:29:28.466
Most of it. I mean, I,

594
00:29:28.466 --> 00:29:29.968
I read eight out of 18.

595
00:29:29.968 --> 00:29:32.971
I probably at 13 or 14 of
I did not read it from start to finish.

596
00:29:33.638 --> 00:29:36.674
Because when we are talking
about the transgender book and you pulled

597
00:29:36.674 --> 00:29:37.742
out the part about. The

598
00:29:38.777 --> 00:29:41.646
it. Was something to do with the police
officer and then.

599
00:29:41.646 --> 00:29:43.982
We actually pulled out the chapter
and read the whole.

600
00:29:43.982 --> 00:29:46.684
Thing the way that you would interpret it
and what. You took out.

601
00:29:46.684 --> 00:29:48.253
I mean, with all due respect.

602
00:29:48.253 --> 00:29:50.955
It was a completely different spin
on that particular.

603
00:29:50.955 --> 00:29:54.025
So having not read
the book touched front to back.

604
00:29:54.392 --> 00:29:57.395
I mean, I don't really

605
00:29:58.429 --> 00:30:01.466
you're not an expert on the subject
like you didn't read the book.

606
00:30:01.466 --> 00:30:04.135
So I'm just kind of wondering.

607
00:30:04.135 --> 00:30:06.171
You know, how do you.

608
00:30:06.171 --> 00:30:09.174
Make a decision for

609
00:30:09.307 --> 00:30:10.942
hundreds of students?

610
00:30:10.942 --> 00:30:13.111
But, I mean, if it's your opinion
and if there is a parent

611
00:30:13.111 --> 00:30:16.247
that doesn't like the book,
I know that if if a parent would say,

612
00:30:16.247 --> 00:30:18.216
could you please pull my child
out of that class

613
00:30:18.216 --> 00:30:21.019
while they're reading it,
we would certainly respect that.

614
00:30:21.019 --> 00:30:23.521
But I think to make a blanket
statement for all kids,

615
00:30:24.622 --> 00:30:26.491
I just think it's a it's far.

616
00:30:26.491 --> 00:30:27.692
And I'm hearing what you're saying.

617
00:30:27.692 --> 00:30:29.294
This is Lindsay true, Mr.

618
00:30:29.294 --> 00:30:34.365
Bennett, about that It could present the
wrong suggestion, you know, of approach.

619
00:30:34.365 --> 00:30:37.969
And, you know,
I don't think that that's invalid.

620
00:30:37.969 --> 00:30:40.672
I do think that having
those conversations is important

621
00:30:40.672 --> 00:30:43.675
because it can open to dialog
of how you should

622
00:30:44.709 --> 00:30:50.215
or, you know, be a conversation piece
or have someone ask about that.

623
00:30:50.215 --> 00:30:54.419
I think that our students
and the professionals,

624
00:30:54.986 --> 00:30:59.190
the academic professionals who recommend
these books and and deliver this content,

625
00:31:00.258 --> 00:31:03.261
you know, would be sensitive to that.

626
00:31:03.428 --> 00:31:05.129
This is Lindsay Kirk.

627
00:31:05.129 --> 00:31:07.699
I think regardless of how much of the book

628
00:31:07.699 --> 00:31:11.469
you read, I think you raise
a very good point as far as we have

629
00:31:11.469 --> 00:31:14.873
parents sometimes who are concerned
about the specific content in a book.

630
00:31:15.874 --> 00:31:16.341
I was

631
00:31:16.341 --> 00:31:19.911
reassured during the curriculum council
meeting the way that the teachers,

632
00:31:20.511 --> 00:31:25.650
when they presented the text, shared
that they often work in grade level groups

633
00:31:25.650 --> 00:31:29.821
and also closely with the guidance
counselor to address some of these issues.

634
00:31:29.821 --> 00:31:33.925
I found that that was reassuring
because I think as we get to eighth grade

635
00:31:33.925 --> 00:31:37.795
in that 14 and up age range,
there's a lot of really complex texts

636
00:31:37.795 --> 00:31:41.232
with really difficult content
that's being shared.

637
00:31:41.232 --> 00:31:44.435
So to see that they were being proactive
in how to handle

638
00:31:44.435 --> 00:31:47.438
those discussions, I was assured by that

639
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.176
I will support
keeping this book mostly for that reason.

640
00:31:52.677 --> 00:31:56.281
I pay a lot of attention
when looking at books like this of the age

641
00:31:56.281 --> 00:32:00.451
appropriateness of it,
and I did find that again, while it does

642
00:32:00.451 --> 00:32:04.756
cover very difficult topics, it is written
for an eighth grade and up audience.

643
00:32:05.323 --> 00:32:08.793
So I'd like to put the faith
in our teachers to work

644
00:32:08.793 --> 00:32:10.662
closely, work with the guidance counselors

645
00:32:10.662 --> 00:32:12.931
and be able to
if this is a book that's chosen.

646
00:32:12.931 --> 00:32:15.934
And the other thing they did say is
they use their best judgment

647
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.937
when they do read these books
aloud with their class

648
00:32:18.937 --> 00:32:22.407
to see kind of
what's the best fit for the age group. But

649
00:32:23.641 --> 00:32:24.342
I just I

650
00:32:24.342 --> 00:32:27.845
think that books like this
with these complex topics offer

651
00:32:28.179 --> 00:32:31.716
a lot of great critical literacy
opportunities that I want

652
00:32:31.749 --> 00:32:35.186
our students to have and diverse
reading material, as you mentioned.

653
00:32:35.186 --> 00:32:40.158
So but I very much understands the concern
and I value your opinion

654
00:32:40.825 --> 00:32:44.095
as far as the difficult topic
and the way the way that that topic

655
00:32:44.095 --> 00:32:47.065
is handled in the text.
Thank you, Dr. Kirk.

656
00:32:47.065 --> 00:32:49.334
Ms.. For sir,
you had your hand raised and then Mr.

657
00:32:49.334 --> 00:32:50.835
President.

658
00:32:50.835 --> 00:32:53.338
Okay, this is Olivia Forester.

659
00:32:53.338 --> 00:32:56.240
I will say that in eighth grade
there is many people

660
00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:00.545
with different opinions,
and I think that reading a book

661
00:33:00.545 --> 00:33:03.548
of this caliber
with these types of difficult

662
00:33:05.149 --> 00:33:08.953
topics and it,
if read or read aloud, will allow

663
00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:11.990
those people with different opinions
to have discussions.

664
00:33:11.990 --> 00:33:12.690
And I think that

665
00:33:12.690 --> 00:33:17.595
it's better to read it as a group
so people can understand the correct ways

666
00:33:17.595 --> 00:33:22.567
to deal with sexual assault
and who we can go to and

667
00:33:24.202 --> 00:33:26.938
kind of figure out the correct way
to deal with that.

668
00:33:26.938 --> 00:33:30.842
And also in a lot of families,
it isn't open

669
00:33:31.109 --> 00:33:37.382
communication and people aren't available
to speak as hopefully mostly

670
00:33:37.382 --> 00:33:39.784
hopefully you guys would agree
that should be

671
00:33:39.784 --> 00:33:43.287
open communication about sexual assault,
but that isn't the case for most people.

672
00:33:43.554 --> 00:33:48.092
So I think reading
this book would be a age appropriate way

673
00:33:48.092 --> 00:33:51.662
to bring that into conversation
without making it inappropriate.

674
00:33:52.830 --> 00:33:54.165
Thank you. Ms.. First.

675
00:33:54.165 --> 00:33:57.168
Mr.. These businesses.

676
00:33:57.168 --> 00:34:00.505
Mr. BENNETT,
when you mentioned the part about how,

677
00:34:00.905 --> 00:34:03.541
you know, the girl didn't speak up,
the woman didn't speak up

678
00:34:03.541 --> 00:34:06.978
after being sexually assaulted,
I think the book is not meant to

679
00:34:07.779 --> 00:34:10.281
show something
that's meant it's meant to show reality.

680
00:34:10.281 --> 00:34:13.284
And the reality is that sexual assault
is something which is not easy to recover

681
00:34:13.284 --> 00:34:16.287
from, and it's not something
which is easy to speak out about.

682
00:34:16.621 --> 00:34:19.590
And the problems are personal
problems are very difficult to get over.

683
00:34:19.891 --> 00:34:22.026
I think the book is meant to show
that reality.

684
00:34:22.026 --> 00:34:25.897
So and my question in turn is what grade
do you think would be reasonable

685
00:34:25.897 --> 00:34:26.431
to show that?

686
00:34:26.431 --> 00:34:29.700
Because in my opinion,
sexual assault is a topic which

687
00:34:31.135 --> 00:34:31.702
no matter your

688
00:34:31.702 --> 00:34:34.705
age, it's
still a difficult conversation to have.

689
00:34:34.739 --> 00:34:38.342
And I think the benefit of,
you know, showing the book to age baiters

690
00:34:38.342 --> 00:34:39.944
is that they learn from a young age

691
00:34:39.944 --> 00:34:42.547
that the world is not perfect
and that outside of Hershey,

692
00:34:42.547 --> 00:34:45.083
things aren't as pleasant as it. Seems.

693
00:34:45.083 --> 00:34:45.583
To us.

694
00:34:45.583 --> 00:34:49.520
Once again, to be clear, it's
not the actual content of sexual assault

695
00:34:49.520 --> 00:34:53.424
that I'm opposed to,
So it's not the age at like eighth grade

696
00:34:53.424 --> 00:34:54.992
is inappropriate
to deal with sexual assault.

697
00:34:54.992 --> 00:34:56.727
That is not my concern.

698
00:34:56.727 --> 00:34:59.564
It's it's the tale that's picked.

699
00:34:59.564 --> 00:35:02.400
There's probably several other

700
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.403
tales of sexual assault
that end in a more appropriate fashion.

701
00:35:05.870 --> 00:35:09.240
It's the way
the situation resolves itself.

702
00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:10.875
If you if you read that at the end,

703
00:35:10.875 --> 00:35:12.410
she ends up
sitting in the back of the classroom

704
00:35:12.410 --> 00:35:14.512
and says, Well,
I'm not gonna let that happen again.

705
00:35:14.512 --> 00:35:15.847
So it's the way it ends.

706
00:35:15.847 --> 00:35:19.884
It's actual message of how to deal with
sexual assault is the issue

707
00:35:19.917 --> 00:35:21.219
I have, not the actual content.

708
00:35:21.219 --> 00:35:23.788
They can discuss that content.
It's the way it's handled.

709
00:35:23.788 --> 00:35:27.158
So you're putting a lot of faith
in the fact that a some student that is

710
00:35:27.158 --> 00:35:31.395
sexually assaulted is not taking this,
is that that's a way to do business.

711
00:35:31.395 --> 00:35:32.563
So that that is my concern.

712
00:35:32.563 --> 00:35:35.566
It's not the actual
topic that makes sense.

713
00:35:36.634 --> 00:35:38.302
This is Cathy Zwicker.

714
00:35:38.302 --> 00:35:40.972
I am in favor of keeping this book
because I was part

715
00:35:40.972 --> 00:35:44.075
of the curriculum committee,
and I feel the same way as Dr.

716
00:35:44.075 --> 00:35:47.078
Cook that we were reassured
that since it's a read aloud book,

717
00:35:47.411 --> 00:35:50.248
one of the reasons they bring
this book forward is so that they can

718
00:35:50.248 --> 00:35:53.251
discuss things that aren't normally
maybe happening in Hershey.

719
00:35:53.684 --> 00:35:57.188
And I think what's missing in this
conversation is the fact

720
00:35:57.188 --> 00:36:02.460
that survivors of sexual assault
are unfortunately often silent.

721
00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:06.631
So even if she didn't handle it
the way I mean, you're a police officer,

722
00:36:06.631 --> 00:36:10.368
so obviously you would want it reported
and taken through the legal system.

723
00:36:10.801 --> 00:36:13.471
But what we know is that there is a
there's

724
00:36:13.471 --> 00:36:17.408
an unfortunate silence around
being a survivor of sexual assault.

725
00:36:17.408 --> 00:36:21.779
And so while she didn't handle it
appropriately through the legal matters

726
00:36:21.779 --> 00:36:24.916
that you would want perhaps a family
member of yours to go through,

727
00:36:25.416 --> 00:36:30.755
she another female or male or survivor
would say, I'm not alone.

728
00:36:31.155 --> 00:36:33.691
This happened.
This happens to other people.

729
00:36:33.691 --> 00:36:36.561
I think when people keep it inside
and keep it to themselves,

730
00:36:36.561 --> 00:36:39.697
and then there may be a conversation
that sparks up around this.

731
00:36:39.697 --> 00:36:42.700
And I know that you all some I did not
read the book, but you also mentioned

732
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.071
there was a glorification of gun violence
in this book as well.

733
00:36:47.505 --> 00:36:50.641
And maybe the the are getting exposed

734
00:36:50.641 --> 00:36:53.911
to things that they wouldn't readily
be exposed to at Derry Township.

735
00:36:54.912 --> 00:36:56.113
But it's

736
00:36:56.113 --> 00:36:58.416
it gives
me hope to hear the actual students

737
00:36:58.416 --> 00:37:02.520
who were in these classes talk about it,
because it's my hope that this opened

738
00:37:02.520 --> 00:37:06.824
the conversation in somebody's worldview
so that they don't stay silent.

739
00:37:06.857 --> 00:37:10.161
It's not teaching
maybe a young woman to stay silent.

740
00:37:10.394 --> 00:37:14.832
It's teaching her that,
Oh my gosh, this happens to other people,

741
00:37:15.099 --> 00:37:17.902
and maybe I should actually do
the opposite

742
00:37:17.902 --> 00:37:20.905
of what this character did
because I'm not alone.

743
00:37:20.905 --> 00:37:23.007
It happens to other people

744
00:37:23.007 --> 00:37:26.010
and I don't know if that's

745
00:37:26.010 --> 00:37:28.813
because it
maybe not be literally taken like this.

746
00:37:28.813 --> 00:37:31.115
It's it's not like a guidebook of
this is what you do.

747
00:37:31.115 --> 00:37:32.950
Cover your bruises and stay silent.

748
00:37:32.950 --> 00:37:37.321
It's actually like, oh,
this stuff happens out in the world.

749
00:37:37.622 --> 00:37:40.091
I shouldn't stay silent.
It happened to other people.

750
00:37:40.091 --> 00:37:41.892
There's other people like me.

751
00:37:41.892 --> 00:37:43.261
So that would be my hope.

752
00:37:43.261 --> 00:37:47.331
And so I am in approval
of keeping this textbook, this book.

753
00:37:47.431 --> 00:37:48.766
And I said, I appreciate your comments.

754
00:37:48.766 --> 00:37:50.901
You know, it's good that could happen.

755
00:37:50.901 --> 00:37:55.206
But we also have the opposite go
where somebody takes that as I shouldn't

756
00:37:55.206 --> 00:37:55.606
speak up.

757
00:37:55.606 --> 00:37:58.209
So we're like, a could happen either way.

758
00:37:58.209 --> 00:38:01.846
And I am more in favor
of erring on the not being present.

759
00:38:03.014 --> 00:38:05.616
This is Eric Schmidt. I am

760
00:38:05.616 --> 00:38:09.320
you know, as a woman I want

761
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:14.992
I would want our female population
just to know that they are not alone 100%.

762
00:38:14.992 --> 00:38:19.096
And so, again, I agree
this content is not a problem.

763
00:38:21.232 --> 00:38:24.235
But what I do worry about is

764
00:38:24.602 --> 00:38:30.074
our teachers are not psychologists,
our teachers are not psychiatrists.

765
00:38:30.341 --> 00:38:34.245
That is a very specifically trained job.

766
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:39.650
It is for us to open up
that kind of discussion.

767
00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:42.253
It, which is great.

768
00:38:42.253 --> 00:38:45.256
But at the same time, you know,

769
00:38:45.423 --> 00:38:49.860
that's a lot of pressure for them
to have to really get into that content.

770
00:38:50.094 --> 00:38:53.931
They are not necessarily trained
the way they should be

771
00:38:54.565 --> 00:38:56.934
in those kind of topics.

772
00:38:56.934 --> 00:38:59.970
I mean, they can do,
you know, like talk about it.

773
00:38:59.970 --> 00:39:01.339
But really, I mean,

774
00:39:02.606 --> 00:39:04.542
how deep can they go?

775
00:39:04.542 --> 00:39:07.545
So that would be a concern.

776
00:39:08.279 --> 00:39:09.547
This is Lindsey Drew.

777
00:39:09.547 --> 00:39:10.815
I think that speaks to Dr.

778
00:39:10.815 --> 00:39:11.282
Cook's point

779
00:39:11.282 --> 00:39:14.852
about the conversation with the teachers
who brought it forward for recommendation.

780
00:39:15.586 --> 00:39:18.122
You know, they're
the ones who will be reading aloud.

781
00:39:18.122 --> 00:39:21.592
They're the ones that would,
you know, need to gauge whether or not

782
00:39:21.592 --> 00:39:25.496
they felt equipped to be able to handle
conversations that would arise from it.

783
00:39:26.230 --> 00:39:29.166
And they expressed that they have

784
00:39:29.166 --> 00:39:32.169
appropriate plans in place
to be able to provide the supports

785
00:39:32.169 --> 00:39:35.973
and engage the the other professionals
in the district as needed.

786
00:39:37.341 --> 00:39:39.343
Well, you would hope so.

787
00:39:39.343 --> 00:39:40.211
This is Donna Cronan.

788
00:39:40.211 --> 00:39:42.346
I love this this course.

789
00:39:42.346 --> 00:39:45.983
I just really appreciate getting
everyone's perspective because this is,

790
00:39:46.650 --> 00:39:49.019
like I said,
rarely we have things that are,

791
00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:52.957
you know, straightforward when it comes
to how we handle things with students.

792
00:39:53.958 --> 00:39:54.392
I know we have

793
00:39:54.392 --> 00:39:57.962
literacy coaches
and we have the guidance counselors,

794
00:39:58.195 --> 00:40:02.800
so I don't say I'm assuming,
but we do have the resources to make sure

795
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:04.635
I'm not going to say
we're assuming this will happen,

796
00:40:04.635 --> 00:40:08.873
but can we make sure that in content
like this, this situation

797
00:40:08.873 --> 00:40:12.009
as well as others,
that the literacy coaches are on board

798
00:40:12.276 --> 00:40:13.711
and bringing in and guidance counselors

799
00:40:13.711 --> 00:40:15.613
so that the teachers
just like the literate,

800
00:40:15.613 --> 00:40:19.650
the literature literacy
coaches are supposed to do, are actually

801
00:40:20.317 --> 00:40:23.621
training the teachers on this content
and how to deal with it, even

802
00:40:23.721 --> 00:40:26.690
even as it includes
what you're not capable of saying, like

803
00:40:26.690 --> 00:40:29.693
when you're not certified to say
and how to just share.

804
00:40:29.693 --> 00:40:31.295
Well,
this is where you would go in this sense,

805
00:40:31.295 --> 00:40:33.631
because not
a teacher is not a psychologist.

806
00:40:33.631 --> 00:40:36.834
It would be to say in these situations,
this is what you would do.

807
00:40:36.834 --> 00:40:40.604
And just make sure that it is
it is truly an edge

808
00:40:40.871 --> 00:40:45.176
of a controlled educational environment
so we don't have to worry about chance

809
00:40:45.443 --> 00:40:46.877
and that it really do.

810
00:40:46.877 --> 00:40:49.680
We do get the benefits
that were all that were all cited

811
00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:53.551
of this conversation
without the negative aspect

812
00:40:53.551 --> 00:40:55.853
that Bob is citing,
which is very possible happening.

813
00:40:55.853 --> 00:40:59.323
But we can prevent that
by knowing in advance and letting the

814
00:41:00.057 --> 00:41:01.926
the literacy coaches know
this is a concern.

815
00:41:01.926 --> 00:41:05.896
Can we train the teachers
to try to avoid that pitfalls

816
00:41:05.896 --> 00:41:07.932
that make sense in terms of,

817
00:41:07.932 --> 00:41:10.367
you know, I mean, that's
what literacy coaches are for,

818
00:41:10.367 --> 00:41:11.902
to make sure
the teachers can handle the content.

819
00:41:13.003 --> 00:41:13.904
Not exactly.

820
00:41:13.904 --> 00:41:15.873
Okay. But all right.

821
00:41:15.873 --> 00:41:18.843
Instructional coaches do help with that.

822
00:41:18.843 --> 00:41:21.846
That's what that piece literacy
is like learning to students.

823
00:41:21.912 --> 00:41:24.014
I'm sorry. Yeah.

824
00:41:24.014 --> 00:41:27.384
So the instructional coaches
are absolutely able to help with that.

825
00:41:27.585 --> 00:41:30.521
I would also, you know, the great majority

826
00:41:30.521 --> 00:41:33.524
of our teachers have master's degrees

827
00:41:33.557 --> 00:41:37.495
and many of them in their content areas
and when you are an English teacher,

828
00:41:37.495 --> 00:41:41.031
a big part of what you are trained in
is selecting appropriate literature

829
00:41:41.432 --> 00:41:45.369
for particular age groups
and how to handle difficult topics.

830
00:41:45.703 --> 00:41:47.638
It's a major part of their training.

831
00:41:47.638 --> 00:41:50.641
It's a major part of something
that they review on a regular basis.

832
00:41:50.875 --> 00:41:55.613
It is not something that is just taken
for granted because any complex literature

833
00:41:55.613 --> 00:41:58.616
is going to have complex topics.

834
00:41:58.616 --> 00:42:01.619
So it's it's a major
part of their educational training.

835
00:42:02.353 --> 00:42:02.820
Thank you.

836
00:42:02.820 --> 00:42:04.021
And I want to thank you

837
00:42:04.021 --> 00:42:04.655
for bringing this up,

838
00:42:04.655 --> 00:42:07.892
because this type of this type
of conversation is really critical,

839
00:42:09.126 --> 00:42:10.261
you know, throughout the district.

840
00:42:10.261 --> 00:42:12.496
So I appreciate him bringing that forward.

841
00:42:12.496 --> 00:42:14.732
And I also don't want you to be disturbed,
not having read the whole

842
00:42:14.732 --> 00:42:17.167
the whole book is obviously not
everyone has read it cover to cover.

843
00:42:17.167 --> 00:42:18.302
We're all voting on it.

844
00:42:18.302 --> 00:42:19.336
But thank you for

845
00:42:19.336 --> 00:42:22.473
for reading it in the detail
that you have to bring that forward to us.

846
00:42:23.107 --> 00:42:24.642
This is Terry Singer.

847
00:42:24.642 --> 00:42:26.844
I wasn't here for the curriculum
discussion.

848
00:42:26.844 --> 00:42:30.147
I appreciate what has been said about it

849
00:42:30.147 --> 00:42:34.051
and the reassurance that it offered
for a few of the board members.

850
00:42:34.485 --> 00:42:39.423
I'm just trying to understand how reading
a read aloud book activity works.

851
00:42:39.423 --> 00:42:42.760
I'm assuming, and I love this one,
I want to test it so

852
00:42:43.894 --> 00:42:47.598
if I'm wrong
I can be corrected that they read

853
00:42:48.432 --> 00:42:51.602
and I would imagine
they read paragraphs chapter.

854
00:42:51.602 --> 00:42:53.103
They don't read the whole book.

855
00:42:53.103 --> 00:42:56.240
They read a little bit all the time
and then there's facilitated discussion.

856
00:42:56.240 --> 00:42:57.074
I would assume,

857
00:42:59.076 --> 00:43:02.012
especially when they come across topics

858
00:43:02.012 --> 00:43:04.982
that they know are going to jolt people.

859
00:43:05.883 --> 00:43:08.652
So I'm assuming that this particular topic

860
00:43:08.652 --> 00:43:13.290
of how you deal with a sexual
assault would never go unaddressed.

861
00:43:13.290 --> 00:43:16.293
I mean, there's going to be a stop
around there

862
00:43:16.627 --> 00:43:20.631
and one or more students, I would imagine,
would say, Well, that's crazy, though.

863
00:43:20.631 --> 00:43:22.733
Of course you would report it or not.

864
00:43:22.733 --> 00:43:24.101
A student would say,

865
00:43:24.101 --> 00:43:25.970
No, you don't want to do that
because then you're

866
00:43:25.970 --> 00:43:28.305
stuck in a legal system
and then this, this and this.

867
00:43:28.305 --> 00:43:30.107
Who knows what, you know.

868
00:43:30.107 --> 00:43:33.744
But I'm assuming that it would be rare
if ever

869
00:43:35.279 --> 00:43:35.813
in a read.

870
00:43:35.813 --> 00:43:37.948
Aloud.

871
00:43:37.948 --> 00:43:39.783
Discussion that's read

872
00:43:39.783 --> 00:43:42.786
a read aloud book
where it's facilitated discussion

873
00:43:43.654 --> 00:43:47.391
that there would ever be silence
around a paragraph like that.

874
00:43:47.391 --> 00:43:50.361
Is that fair? That is absolutely fair.

875
00:43:50.361 --> 00:43:54.932
And one of the parts of that discussion
would be who are your trusted adults?

876
00:43:55.366 --> 00:43:59.470
Who could you go to if you can't tell
somebody at home who can you go to here?

877
00:43:59.637 --> 00:44:01.405
Where can you go for help?

878
00:44:01.405 --> 00:44:03.674
And how do you find those connections?

879
00:44:03.674 --> 00:44:07.378
And it's it's not about
solving those problems or trying to,

880
00:44:07.678 --> 00:44:10.381
you know, fix
a very complex problem for a student

881
00:44:10.381 --> 00:44:13.017
because that is outside of a teacher's
expertise.

882
00:44:13.017 --> 00:44:16.286
It is instead, how do we connect
with the people who can help us.

883
00:44:17.588 --> 00:44:20.591
So it would be virtually,

884
00:44:21.125 --> 00:44:24.128
almost 100% unlikely

885
00:44:25.162 --> 00:44:27.498
that the students in that read
aloud facilitated

886
00:44:27.498 --> 00:44:30.901
discussions
situation would ever have the period end.

887
00:44:30.901 --> 00:44:34.038
With the best way to do
it is not to report. It.

888
00:44:34.238 --> 00:44:35.239
Correct? Correct.

889
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:36.440
If if you were getting

890
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.177
to that spot in the class period,
you would not address that piece

891
00:44:40.177 --> 00:44:42.946
until the next day when you had
plenty of time to talk about it. Right.

892
00:44:42.946 --> 00:44:44.982
But you would never go.

893
00:44:44.982 --> 00:44:46.950
Sounds like never go addressed. No.

894
00:44:46.950 --> 00:44:49.153
I mean, it's
almost like it's calling out for.

895
00:44:49.153 --> 00:44:50.821
Correct? Correct.

896
00:44:50.821 --> 00:44:51.655
And this is not a quote.

897
00:44:51.655 --> 00:44:54.091
And plus, Maria stated that,
which is I'm sure is true,

898
00:44:54.091 --> 00:44:56.260
that if there was a situation
where a parent didn't

899
00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:58.829
want their student to participate,
they can be withdrawn.

900
00:44:58.829 --> 00:45:01.732
Absolutely.
That is always the case. Absolutely.

901
00:45:01.732 --> 00:45:04.401
And it's my understanding
that the students do not receive

902
00:45:04.401 --> 00:45:06.437
copies of these read aloud texts.
Is that correct?

903
00:45:06.437 --> 00:45:08.939
I think there was just like several on
for approval.

904
00:45:08.939 --> 00:45:09.540
That's correct.

905
00:45:12.009 --> 00:45:12.376
Of this.

906
00:45:12.376 --> 00:45:16.146
Robert Brown Just and that's all well
and good and I appreciate that.

907
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:18.816
But having my daughter
just gone through this exact

908
00:45:18.816 --> 00:45:21.118
same thing is how this book
was initially brought to my attention.

909
00:45:21.118 --> 00:45:22.653
Those discussions
didn't happen to the point

910
00:45:22.653 --> 00:45:25.289
where she came home
and didn't get any of that out of that.

911
00:45:25.289 --> 00:45:27.391
So I am I'm not saying that
I wasn't there.

912
00:45:27.391 --> 00:45:28.659
I don't know
what the discussion looked like.

913
00:45:28.659 --> 00:45:31.361
I can only unpack it
when my eighth grader comes home.

914
00:45:31.361 --> 00:45:32.930
And now just not at all
what she took from it.

915
00:45:32.930 --> 00:45:35.933
That is not
she did not get that out of that.

916
00:45:36.700 --> 00:45:41.138
So having just lived that experience, that
didn't happen in that particular case.

917
00:45:41.405 --> 00:45:44.241
So that's
why I'm not super reassured by that,

918
00:45:44.241 --> 00:45:46.543
because I just had that experience
not happen.

919
00:45:46.543 --> 00:45:48.378
But this is getting sicker.

920
00:45:48.378 --> 00:45:50.948
Did you then have a conversation
about what

921
00:45:50.948 --> 00:45:53.417
what would have been the best way
to handle that situation?

922
00:45:53.417 --> 00:45:54.151
We did.

923
00:45:54.151 --> 00:45:57.721
And if if it weren't for this
book, would that have happened to your

924
00:45:57.721 --> 00:46:00.691
eighth grade daughter in your house
at that time when she was 14?

925
00:46:00.691 --> 00:46:02.993
Well, my house, probably the best example
for that kind of thing.

926
00:46:02.993 --> 00:46:07.064
But we we've we've had discussions
in the Bennett household about that kind

927
00:46:07.064 --> 00:46:07.931
of things in the past. But

928
00:46:09.066 --> 00:46:11.668
we reiterated
some things after she came home.

929
00:46:11.668 --> 00:46:14.671
I mean, I think that's kind of the point
of having literature

930
00:46:14.671 --> 00:46:18.142
like this in the school system
is while it's uncomfortable,

931
00:46:18.575 --> 00:46:21.245
your daughter is in a great situation
where she came out

932
00:46:21.245 --> 00:46:24.248
and talked about it and you talked about
how you would like her to handle it.

933
00:46:24.581 --> 00:46:29.553
I mean, I think that's fantastic
that as a father, you had a conversation

934
00:46:29.653 --> 00:46:33.390
with daughter where maybe now maybe
you talk about this stuff more often.

935
00:46:33.390 --> 00:46:34.658
But I don't know.

936
00:46:34.658 --> 00:46:38.462
I just think it opened up a conversation
that was important to have.

937
00:46:38.796 --> 00:46:41.198
And then what about, though,
this is Erica Schmidt.

938
00:46:41.198 --> 00:46:45.068
Those all those students
who don't have those kind of

939
00:46:45.702 --> 00:46:50.641
open communications with their families
and they did not get out of it.

940
00:46:50.641 --> 00:46:54.211
What we had hoped
they would get out of it, just like Mr.

941
00:46:54.211 --> 00:46:55.879
Bennett said his daughter didn't.

942
00:46:55.879 --> 00:46:58.015
And then there's no one to talk about it
with.

943
00:46:58.015 --> 00:46:59.650
So it's just it's yes,

944
00:46:59.650 --> 00:47:03.420
I mean, in an ideal world,
that is exactly how we want this to end.

945
00:47:04.021 --> 00:47:09.326
But in reality, that is not what happens
in everybody's house all the time.

946
00:47:09.359 --> 00:47:13.363
So it is important
when we review this stuff

947
00:47:13.630 --> 00:47:16.200
that we have to take into consideration.

948
00:47:16.200 --> 00:47:17.801
Everyone. One.

949
00:47:19.203 --> 00:47:22.372
I hear you're saying
I think that that goes back to what Dr.

950
00:47:22.372 --> 00:47:25.375
Winslow's saying, though, about that.

951
00:47:25.375 --> 00:47:28.478
You know, when this is being done
as a read aloud, that this

952
00:47:29.146 --> 00:47:32.149
the conversation would be there.

953
00:47:32.382 --> 00:47:33.250
But with Mr.

954
00:47:33.250 --> 00:47:36.019
Bennett said, was it read aloud? Right.

955
00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:38.989
It was already.

956
00:47:38.989 --> 00:47:39.823
That's what I'm just saying.

957
00:47:39.823 --> 00:47:40.757
Like, yes, you're right.

958
00:47:40.757 --> 00:47:42.192
That is what that is what we want.

959
00:47:42.192 --> 00:47:44.127
That is how it should be.

960
00:47:44.127 --> 00:47:47.030
But in what he just said,
and fortunately in that situation.

961
00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:47.297
Right.

962
00:47:47.297 --> 00:47:51.068
She was able to
and so that, you know, is absolutely

963
00:47:51.068 --> 00:47:54.504
a great testament to that relationship
and conversation because

964
00:47:55.772 --> 00:47:57.875
I don't think that it's common

965
00:47:57.875 --> 00:48:00.844
or, you know, easily occurred.

966
00:48:00.844 --> 00:48:02.746
I know for me it wouldn't have been.

967
00:48:02.746 --> 00:48:05.182
And I guess that's where
I'm going to err on the side of.

968
00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:10.020
I would
rather see the chance of the conversation

969
00:48:10.120 --> 00:48:15.025
happening and students
being able to discuss it then than not,

970
00:48:15.025 --> 00:48:18.862
because then there's really no exposure
to those types of things.

971
00:48:18.862 --> 00:48:22.633
And my lived experience is that it
probably would have been beneficial.

972
00:48:24.134 --> 00:48:25.302
So this is Donna Cronin.

973
00:48:25.302 --> 00:48:27.237
So this is another comment
for you, Stacey.

974
00:48:27.237 --> 00:48:30.741
So given the dialog that we have here,
the robust dialog,

975
00:48:31.475 --> 00:48:35.979
I, I don't know which I mean, I do know
the eighth grade English teachers.

976
00:48:35.979 --> 00:48:37.047
I'm not sure if anyone were listening,

977
00:48:37.047 --> 00:48:38.849
but I would certainly encourage them

978
00:48:38.849 --> 00:48:42.719
to listen to the dialog
so they're aware of the concerns,

979
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.656
so that they go to the nth degree
to make sure it doesn't happen again.

980
00:48:45.656 --> 00:48:48.358
What would Barb's daughter experienced?

981
00:48:48.358 --> 00:48:52.262
So the importance of our discussion
once again is is fabulous.

982
00:48:52.696 --> 00:48:53.864
Thank you. That's an excellent point.

983
00:48:55.365 --> 00:48:56.900
Is there any other

984
00:48:56.900 --> 00:48:59.903
discussion before we call this first.

985
00:49:01.171 --> 00:49:03.507
I just have Olivia Forester.

986
00:49:03.507 --> 00:49:05.409
I just have a quick thing to say.

987
00:49:05.409 --> 00:49:06.143
I would just say

988
00:49:06.143 --> 00:49:09.579
that I would rather have the possibility
of a discussion occurring,

989
00:49:09.947 --> 00:49:11.515
even if it's not just with the parents.

990
00:49:11.515 --> 00:49:14.851
I think if you make it clear that
there's always the guidance counselors, go

991
00:49:14.851 --> 00:49:19.022
to other coaches and parents,

992
00:49:19.456 --> 00:49:23.360
just adults in general
that make the options known

993
00:49:23.927 --> 00:49:27.798
and that possibility is clear,
then I would rather have that

994
00:49:27.798 --> 00:49:31.435
than just not be discussed
because that's when you get situations

995
00:49:31.435 --> 00:49:36.707
like the ones that occur on the books,
that that's when you get the silence

996
00:49:36.707 --> 00:49:39.710
after having sexual assault
or things that go

997
00:49:40.377 --> 00:49:43.380
across your boundaries
is when you think there's no option.

998
00:49:43.513 --> 00:49:48.085
And I think if we make the options known,
even if they don't personally

999
00:49:48.685 --> 00:49:51.688
want to discuss fully because it's
not in everyone's comfort zone,

1000
00:49:51.955 --> 00:49:55.559
then that's better for our students
in general.

1001
00:49:56.493 --> 00:49:57.928
Thank you.

1002
00:49:57.928 --> 00:50:00.063
Is there any other discussion
before we ask for a.

1003
00:50:00.063 --> 00:50:01.131
Roll call. Vote for Mrs.

1004
00:50:03.834 --> 00:50:04.468
and Mrs. e.g.

1005
00:50:04.468 --> 00:50:07.471
Roll call, please. Dr. Keck? Yes?

1006
00:50:08.005 --> 00:50:08.739
This is Manny.

1007
00:50:08.739 --> 00:50:11.708
Yes, Mr. Rizzo?

1008
00:50:11.708 --> 00:50:13.076
Yes, Mrs.

1009
00:50:13.076 --> 00:50:14.911
Schmidt?

1010
00:50:14.911 --> 00:50:16.513
No. Mrs.

1011
00:50:16.513 --> 00:50:17.581
Sicker.

1012
00:50:17.581 --> 00:50:19.683
Yes, Mr.

1013
00:50:19.683 --> 00:50:21.351
Singer? Yes.

1014
00:50:21.351 --> 00:50:23.687
Mr. Bennett? No.

1015
00:50:23.687 --> 00:50:25.989
Dr. Cronan. Yes.

1016
00:50:25.989 --> 00:50:28.592
Mr.. Yes.

1017
00:50:28.592 --> 00:50:31.561
So I won't approve to opposed.

1018
00:50:33.363 --> 00:50:36.366
Thank you everyone for that dialog.

1019
00:50:36.433 --> 00:50:38.468
That concludes
our new business for this evening.

1020
00:50:38.468 --> 00:50:41.138
And there are no delegate reports
attached.

1021
00:50:41.138 --> 00:50:44.141
Does any board member
have a delegate report to share?

1022
00:50:46.843 --> 00:50:47.878
Are there any board members

1023
00:50:47.878 --> 00:50:50.113
who would like to have a board member
report this evening?

1024
00:50:50.113 --> 00:50:50.881
Not so much to report.

1025
00:50:50.881 --> 00:50:53.850
I'd just like to thank the student
representative for speaking up.

1026
00:50:54.151 --> 00:50:56.253
I haven't been here a long time,
but this is kind of the first time

1027
00:50:56.253 --> 00:50:57.754
where they engage
in the conversation as well.

1028
00:50:57.754 --> 00:51:00.490
Joe I appreciate that and keep doing it.

1029
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:04.961
This is Terry Singer.

1030
00:51:04.961 --> 00:51:08.165
I just wanted to mention
that the Hall of Fame is having its

1031
00:51:08.999 --> 00:51:12.002
annual luncheon this Friday,

1032
00:51:12.302 --> 00:51:15.305
October 14th at 11 a.m.

1033
00:51:15.305 --> 00:51:18.308
It begins at the Country Club Ballroom.

1034
00:51:19.142 --> 00:51:22.546
They'll be, I guess, installing of five

1035
00:51:24.247 --> 00:51:25.449
qualifying athletes.

1036
00:51:25.449 --> 00:51:28.351
And a lot of a

1037
00:51:28.351 --> 00:51:30.120
lot of the students come as well.

1038
00:51:30.120 --> 00:51:34.257
I think they bring over
a lot of the captains

1039
00:51:34.658 --> 00:51:38.161
and leaders of the athletic teams

1040
00:51:38.161 --> 00:51:41.465
and the act and some of the activities
that bring them.

1041
00:51:41.465 --> 00:51:44.334
It's it's a great, great event
if you haven't been.

1042
00:51:44.334 --> 00:51:46.803
It's this Friday, October

1043
00:51:46.803 --> 00:51:49.806
14th at 11,
and I'm sure you could get tickets from

1044
00:51:50.974 --> 00:51:53.977
from Mike's office, the athletic office.

1045
00:51:55.045 --> 00:51:56.513
And Donna Cronin.

1046
00:51:56.513 --> 00:51:59.349
I just want to add that it is senior
night for the boys soccer team.

1047
00:51:59.349 --> 00:52:01.685
They're playing lower dolphin
right down the road.

1048
00:52:01.685 --> 00:52:03.520
So if we get out soon, we can ball.

1049
00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:06.423
I can't believe Erica's even here.
She's missing her son play.

1050
00:52:06.423 --> 00:52:07.324
I'm just in my arms.

1051
00:52:07.324 --> 00:52:10.460
So hopefully any of you that can go
to the game, we need to beat day.

1052
00:52:11.094 --> 00:52:11.795
So thank. You.

1053
00:52:13.163 --> 00:52:14.131
This is Lindsay Cook.

1054
00:52:14.131 --> 00:52:15.899
I just wanted to say,
and I don't want to take.

1055
00:52:15.899 --> 00:52:18.768
Anything
from your superintendent's report, but

1056
00:52:18.768 --> 00:52:21.771
I was able to attend this morning

1057
00:52:21.872 --> 00:52:25.375
the minute to win it
at the SCC and the elementary school,

1058
00:52:25.375 --> 00:52:29.446
which was a result of them
getting X amount of Hershey passes

1059
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.114
up into a certain point.

1060
00:52:31.114 --> 00:52:35.185
And it was so wonderful having
all of these parents in the building

1061
00:52:35.852 --> 00:52:39.823
and other teachers and administrators
who are helping out to run these games.

1062
00:52:40.090 --> 00:52:43.894
It was all part of their positive
behavior incentive.

1063
00:52:44.561 --> 00:52:45.896
And it was just it was wonderful.

1064
00:52:45.896 --> 00:52:46.997
It was wonderfully ran off.

1065
00:52:46.997 --> 00:52:48.965
I knew exactly who did everything.

1066
00:52:48.965 --> 00:52:52.035
I wish I could say and give them credit
for it because they did a great job.

1067
00:52:52.035 --> 00:52:53.970
The kids had a great time

1068
00:52:53.970 --> 00:52:56.673
and it was the very first time
they've done it and it was a

1069
00:52:56.673 --> 00:53:00.677
well-oiled machine, so it was great
and the kids had a great time.

1070
00:53:03.780 --> 00:53:06.183
Dr. NZEI And Superintendent

1071
00:53:06.183 --> 00:53:09.186
Manley did.

1072
00:53:10.287 --> 00:53:11.154
I was going to talk

1073
00:53:11.154 --> 00:53:14.791
about the PBS minute to win it because Dr.

1074
00:53:14.891 --> 00:53:16.826
Snyder, myself and Dr.

1075
00:53:16.826 --> 00:53:19.829
Cook were all there,
as well as many other parent volunteers.

1076
00:53:19.963 --> 00:53:22.399
It was really, really fun.

1077
00:53:22.399 --> 00:53:24.067
My I think Dr.

1078
00:53:24.067 --> 00:53:26.102
Cox was the puff balls right there.

1079
00:53:26.102 --> 00:53:32.042
We did have pom pom and the beaded
bracelets with one hand, and Dr.

1080
00:53:32.042 --> 00:53:37.347
Rice did the scoopers and I did the cups,
which I know sounds crazy.

1081
00:53:37.647 --> 00:53:39.115
And I think all of that was there too.

1082
00:53:39.115 --> 00:53:40.750
I did just for the Boy Scouts.

1083
00:53:40.750 --> 00:53:44.387
Awesome business manager, White for PBS.

1084
00:53:44.387 --> 00:53:46.156
That's amazing.

1085
00:53:46.156 --> 00:53:48.091
So that is.

1086
00:53:48.091 --> 00:53:50.594
It was all organized by Mr.

1087
00:53:50.594 --> 00:53:52.996
Chicco and it was phenomenal.

1088
00:53:52.996 --> 00:53:56.633
And what we've been really striving for
with our positive behavior, interventions

1089
00:53:56.633 --> 00:54:01.538
and supports is that we don't have
external material rewards,

1090
00:54:01.538 --> 00:54:05.175
but instead experiential rewards
that are more internally motivating.

1091
00:54:05.809 --> 00:54:09.813
And the kids had a ball playing games
and having the visitors in the classroom.

1092
00:54:10.146 --> 00:54:12.282
And it was a really wonderful experience.

1093
00:54:12.282 --> 00:54:13.116
We had a great time,

1094
00:54:14.150 --> 00:54:15.452
so really happy to see

1095
00:54:15.452 --> 00:54:18.421
that growth in our PBIS.

1096
00:54:19.289 --> 00:54:21.858
And I was also going to mention
the Hall of Fame

1097
00:54:21.858 --> 00:54:25.695
induction is on Friday,
So that's always a fun and exciting event.

1098
00:54:26.062 --> 00:54:30.600
And obviously Friday is also homecoming
come out for the homecoming game.

1099
00:54:30.600 --> 00:54:34.437
It's going to be a lot of fun
and wonderful and it's always great

1100
00:54:34.437 --> 00:54:35.338
to have the support out.

1101
00:54:35.338 --> 00:54:37.874
It's it's such a great

1102
00:54:37.874 --> 00:54:39.276
event to see.

1103
00:54:39.276 --> 00:54:40.410
And I love I love that.

1104
00:54:40.410 --> 00:54:43.413
And when the kids sing
the alma mater, it's just great.

1105
00:54:43.580 --> 00:54:45.582
It makes my heart big.

1106
00:54:45.582 --> 00:54:47.517
That's my report.

1107
00:54:47.517 --> 00:54:48.084
Thank you, Dr.

1108
00:54:48.084 --> 00:54:51.087
Windsor for board president report.

1109
00:54:51.354 --> 00:54:52.355
I didn't have one, but

1110
00:54:52.355 --> 00:54:55.392
I do want to tag on to the other comments
and thank our student

1111
00:54:55.392 --> 00:54:58.928
representatives for participate
in this dialog and conversation tonight.

1112
00:54:59.863 --> 00:55:03.900
I was fortunate to be
part of the committee as board President.

1113
00:55:03.900 --> 00:55:06.903
When you were interviewed
and selected last

1114
00:55:07.304 --> 00:55:10.140
spring, late spring. And

1115
00:55:11.508 --> 00:55:13.043
what you demonstrated this evening

1116
00:55:13.043 --> 00:55:16.046
was exactly why you stood out
as applicants for this role

1117
00:55:16.813 --> 00:55:20.984
and your leadership
was on full display tonight.

1118
00:55:20.984 --> 00:55:24.354
And so I hope, in reflection
on participating with this board meeting,

1119
00:55:24.921 --> 00:55:28.091
that this is one that stays with you
and that you feel empowered

1120
00:55:28.091 --> 00:55:33.029
to continue using your voice
and participating in civil discourse.

1121
00:55:33.630 --> 00:55:36.633
It's important
and it's something that you'll need

1122
00:55:36.933 --> 00:55:39.202
in life constantly as you go on.

1123
00:55:39.202 --> 00:55:42.272
And so thank you
for really embracing this role.

1124
00:55:42.806 --> 00:55:44.708
And I also would just like to
thank the board.

1125
00:55:44.708 --> 00:55:49.112
I think we've had a number
of conversations over the last I forget

1126
00:55:49.112 --> 00:55:51.014
there was one

1127
00:55:51.014 --> 00:55:54.584
not that long ago
that after the meeting ended,

1128
00:55:54.818 --> 00:55:57.821
we kind of I walked away and was like,
wow, We just

1129
00:55:58.321 --> 00:56:01.591
I was really proud of of all nine of us
together.

1130
00:56:02.158 --> 00:56:04.361
And tonight's
another one of those that that we're able

1131
00:56:04.361 --> 00:56:05.695
to have these conversations.

1132
00:56:05.695 --> 00:56:10.333
And though we disagree, everyone
is hearing one another and responding.

1133
00:56:10.333 --> 00:56:14.971
So I know that's not always the case,
but tonight it really mattered.

1134
00:56:14.971 --> 00:56:16.906
And I want to thank everyone
for showing up for that.

1135
00:56:18.174 --> 00:56:20.176
So with that concludes my report.

1136
00:56:20.176 --> 00:56:23.813
And we'll move into recognition
of citizens for the opportunity

1137
00:56:23.813 --> 00:56:27.350
for residents and taxpayers to address
the board on matters related to the agenda

1138
00:56:27.650 --> 00:56:30.420
or matters of district governance
that were not on the agenda.

1139
00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:33.289
Those who speak are asked
to follow the same guidelines outlined

1140
00:56:33.289 --> 00:56:36.393
at the initial public comment portion
of our meeting, and I'll once again ask

1141
00:56:36.393 --> 00:56:39.362
Mrs. Sikka,
our board Treasurer, to keep time.

1142
00:56:39.529 --> 00:56:42.699
Are there any residents or taxpayers
who would like to comment at this time?

1143
00:56:43.133 --> 00:56:46.136
I'll open it up to anyone in the audience
that's here,

1144
00:56:47.804 --> 00:56:52.041
and then I will invite individuals online.

1145
00:56:52.208 --> 00:56:55.211
I see one hand raised so far.

1146
00:56:56.846 --> 00:56:58.615
Colby You can Colby, Hollinger,

1147
00:56:58.615 --> 00:57:01.618
you can talk to.

1148
00:57:02.352 --> 00:57:03.720
Good evening, everyone.

1149
00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:06.890
Colby Hollinger, 1361 Church
Road, Hershey.

1150
00:57:07.757 --> 00:57:11.294
I just want to say I appreciate the robust
conversation around the importance

1151
00:57:11.294 --> 00:57:14.297
of reviewing the curriculum and the books
that are being presented to our children.

1152
00:57:14.998 --> 00:57:16.833
There are some great points
made all around.

1153
00:57:16.833 --> 00:57:20.270
My only displeasure with the conversation
comes around criticism of board

1154
00:57:20.270 --> 00:57:23.273
members, opinions based on whether or not
the full text was read.

1155
00:57:23.907 --> 00:57:26.342
There was a voice dissent
on whether a member's opinion

1156
00:57:26.342 --> 00:57:29.345
was, quote, expert due
to not reading the full text.

1157
00:57:29.479 --> 00:57:32.582
But when an opinion was given that aligned
with the same thought process,

1158
00:57:32.882 --> 00:57:35.518
even though it was stated
that the text was not read at all,

1159
00:57:35.518 --> 00:57:37.720
there was no voice
dissent about that opinion.

1160
00:57:37.720 --> 00:57:38.822
I just ask that we continue

1161
00:57:38.822 --> 00:57:42.258
to look and listen to everyone's view
from their life perspective,

1162
00:57:42.692 --> 00:57:44.894
and that diversity is
what makes this community great,

1163
00:57:44.894 --> 00:57:47.630
whether you agree with their
opinion or not. Thank you.

1164
00:57:49.666 --> 00:57:49.966
Thank you.

1165
00:57:49.966 --> 00:57:50.800
Mr. Hollinger.

1166
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:53.803
Is there anyone else who would like
to participate in public comment?

1167
00:58:04.681 --> 00:58:07.016
I see no additional hands raised.

1168
00:58:07.016 --> 00:58:10.019
Is there anything else
for the good of the order?

1169
00:58:11.654 --> 00:58:13.156
The next Public Board of Directors

1170
00:58:13.156 --> 00:58:17.026
meeting will be held on October
24th, 2022, beginning at 7:00 PM.

1171
00:58:17.060 --> 00:58:18.828
Please refer to the District website
to register

1172
00:58:18.828 --> 00:58:21.231
for virtual attendance as the meeting
draws closer.

1173
00:58:21.231 --> 00:58:23.132
May I please have a motion
to adjourn the meeting?

1174
00:58:23.132 --> 00:58:26.102
So move to Maria. Me second Lindsay Clerk.

1175
00:58:26.269 --> 00:58:29.272
All those in favor say I say no.

1176
00:58:29.405 --> 00:58:31.774
Giving in to adjourn at 7:59 p.m..

1177
00:58:31.774 --> 00:58:32.809
Thank you and have a great night.